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Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

lol a bunch of sporting fans invaded the clubs training academy and beat up some players, and injured their best striker who now cannot play this weekend Cup Final.

Basically

ChainsawCharlie posted:

Lol sporting, you joke of a club.

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Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Lol

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



ultras are dumb as hell

https://observador.pt/2018/05/15/adeptos-de-cara-tapada-invadiram-academia-do-sporting-em-alcochete/

https://twitter.com/diogobessa_/status/996451360332804098

blue footed boobie
Sep 14, 2012


UEFA SUPREMACY

Electronico6 posted:

lol a bunch of sporting fans invaded the clubs training academy and beat up some players, and injured their best striker who now cannot play this weekend Cup Final.

Basically

Also sounds like Bruno suspended the manager and now the players are going to boycott the cup final? This is all so batshit insane.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

blue footed boobie posted:

Also sounds like Bruno suspended the manager and now the players are going to boycott the cup final? This is all so batshit insane.

That was yesterday, and Bruno Carvalho said that it was all made up by the media after people made fun of him on facebook.

Edit: Media now reporting that some players are already quitting their contracts due to this hahahha

Mean Bean Machine
May 9, 2008

Only when I breathe.
It was me

orange sky
May 7, 2007

We just lost our entire professional football team


Nice

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Rui Patricio was rumored to go for 30 million but now he can just walk free to any club that isn't a shithole that lets fans loving headbutt their coaches and split players heads open.

Holy poo poo this is some third division Minas Gerais football club thing. Sporting shouldn't recover from this, ethically speaking.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Reminder that bruno de carvalho again dazled all the world with his superb rethoric in a interview 4 days ago where he tooted his own green horn above everything else and tried to claim that his insanity is only an act. Sporting them proceeds to gently caress up acess to the champions league , the president suspends the coach and staff ,only to deny doing so after a couple or hours, a administrative staff is indicted for corruption in handball, alegedly coordinating with the guy who is also in charge of football affairs and about 50 ultras invade the training ground and beat up their coach and star striker.for any other club this would be one of the most shamefull and darkest days in their history.for sporting,it was a tuesday.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Also Bruno de Carvalho was conveniently not present when the attack was done, only showed up after the police arrived, he immediatly did some declarations to television and hosed off before the team was escorted out.

This is a national disgrace.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



I mean,more like a national comedy,but i think its pretty established by now that is sportings raison d'être

Mean Bean Machine
May 9, 2008

Only when I breathe.

Electronico6 posted:

That was yesterday, and Bruno Carvalho said that it was all made up by the media after people made fun of him on facebook.

Edit: Media now reporting that some players are already quitting their contracts due to this hahahha

Mans posted:

Rui Patricio was rumored to go for 30 million but now he can just walk free to any club that isn't a shithole that lets fans loving headbutt their coaches and split players heads open.

Holy poo poo this is some third division Minas Gerais football club thing. Sporting shouldn't recover from this, ethically speaking.

this might blow people's minds but, much like anybody else, football players can't just "quit" their contracts. hope this information serves you well in any future endeavors

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
They can if their employer can't garantee basic conditions, including security, to let them do their professional functions.

Getting your head split open because a bunch of mean bean machines entered your training room is a clear breach of any and all workplace environment security and proper working conditions.

You could sue Pingo Doce for the poo poo that happened here, do you think that these players can't afford good lawyers to defend themselves in a situation where they're legally right?

gently caress outta here, you're the reason so many people are cowards when facing lovely working conditions. Call the ACT on literally any minimal workplace grievance.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Mans posted:

Call the ACT on literally any minimal workplace grievance.

This,and also,join a union.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

Mean Bean Machine posted:

this might blow people's minds but, much like anybody else, football players can't just "quit" their contracts. hope this information serves you well in any future endeavors

this might blow your mind but sporting are poo poo

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



So now the suposed bussinessman and agent that first whitleblowed the corruption in handball is now claiming that he also tried to corrupt some football players and now 6 sporting games are being investigated.

The reaction from bruno carvalho about 50 ultras beating up sporting players and coach was " it was a bummer what happened,but lets all move on"

I just...what...i...im tapping out.

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire
Still plan on playing that cup final? The police are going to have a bit of work to do.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

Turns out the real corrupt club buying referees and games was Sporting all along.

lol

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Yeah I think the jury's still out on that one

At least on sporting's exclusivity in that role, if it's proven to be true everyone should get properly hosed

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire
Has there been a match fixing scandal in Portugal before? If this is actually happening you can bet all the big teams are involved in some way.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Only referee bribing that I'm aware of

In the second league there's a huge match fixing process that's already in the courts, but I have no doubt in my mind match fixing (mostly for betting purposes I'd say) is constant in all professional football leagues in Portugal

That and doping

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

orange sky posted:

Yeah I think the jury's still out on that one

At least on sporting's exclusivity in that role, if it's proven to be true everyone should get properly hosed

Oh sure, but I think this is the difference between Bruno de Carvalho and Pinto da Costa. Pinto da Costa has over 30 years of crooked poo poo at Porto and he is going to take it all to the grave, but BdC got snuffed out in a couple of years as nobody likes him and he is a complete maniac.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Sporting had to bribe the poo poo out of half the league to finish third.

this is hilarious.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



I mean, if we are being fair everyone does it, there no such thing as glass cellings in portuguese football because they've all been shatered.
All big clubs do shady poo poo and referee bribing,all small clubs probably do match fixing.except for chaves which is a pure and good club ( they probably did it too).

The funny thing is we probably could have kinda nicked this in the bud,or at least discourage this poo poo if apito dourado was taken seriously by everyone, but since most people aparently choose not to,welp.btw, since football is kinda one of the sociological mirrors of society, this kinda poo poo goes on everywhere

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

Electronico6 posted:

Oh sure, but I think this is the difference between Bruno de Carvalho and Pinto da Costa. Pinto da Costa has over 30 years of crooked poo poo at Porto and he is going to take it all to the grave, but BdC got snuffed out in a couple of years as nobody likes him and he is a complete maniac.
There's so many nasty rumours surrounding the godfather and Porto's involvement on everything from bribes to human trafficking that I think we'll only start to snuff that stuff out after he dies.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

The dude that blew the whistle and was running the corruption scheme for Sporting has just admitted to a court that he did, and he attempted to, corrupt adversary players in up to 8 football league matches, and that that he paid handball referees in 10 matches during this season. League that Sporting ended up winning.

Meanwhile plenty of people on the board of directors, general assembly, and fiscal council have resigned, and while this weekend's Final is still on, Sporting hasn't done a single training day and the last training day before the match was cancelled too. Meanwhile Bruno de Carvalho is suing the President of the Portuguese Republic for defamation.

RIP Sporting

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Didn't that dude meanwhile say he didn't corrupt anyone, just took the money for himself and didn't give it to the players? Heard something about that

Anyway a new Benfica archive is going to drop tomorrow. With the crazy couple of days we've had I bet it's gonna be good.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

orange sky posted:

Didn't that dude meanwhile say he didn't corrupt anyone, just took the money for himself and didn't give it to the players? Heard something about that

Anyway a new Benfica archive is going to drop tomorrow. With the crazy couple of days we've had I bet it's gonna be good.

There's like 4 dudes involved in this, but regardless it's Paulo Silva who came forward with all of it, and now said it to a judge so no more he said she said business.

Though it's really funny that one of the players told the guy to gently caress off as 3000€ was nowhere near enough. Can't win leagues by offering chump change as bribes.

It also makes me wonder what Porto and Benfica pay around that players from c-grade teams give the cold shoulder to 3000€.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Top earners in benfica and sporting earn around 3 million a year. Casilas takes home around 4. Meanwhile aves and other small clubs top out at the 250-300k range. The average annual salary in the first league is around 200k by this info. The jump in salary from playing in the segunda liga to primeira liga sometimes is around 500% .there are fringe players in the second league earning 1k a month,though usualy the clubs provides room ( i.e. they live in a 3 bedroom apartment with other players,or in a apartment provided by the agent which is usualy getting payed a consultant fee by the player and club), meals and a car . its a poo poo life if youre not in a decent club, but usualy you can build a decent nests egg before starting your normal life at 35,if youre not getting scammed by your agent.then usually you go to a coaching gig, player agency,administrative role in a club or open a small bussiness.the players union kinda sorted their poo poo out a couple of years ago and has been really good in helping players invest their money.

Ps: i mean, if i was playing at a small club getting payed 100k a year, you better offer more than 3000 euros for me to throw a game, add a zero to that or something you cheap bastard.

Antifa Poltergeist fucked around with this message at 10:55 on May 18, 2018

orange sky
May 7, 2007

CMTV saying they have proof that Bruno was the one that called the assault on the players

RIP Sporting, it's been nice knowing you

At least we can be champions in some amateur competition?

orange sky
May 7, 2007

lmao apparently CMTV paid a hefty sum for the guy to come forward

Is that even legal?

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

Bruno de Carvalho totally paid a bunch of idiots to trash and beat up his own players so Jorge Jesus resigns without compensation pay. I would feel bad for Sporting fans but this poo poo is too funny.

Electronico6 fucked around with this message at 14:07 on May 18, 2018

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

ChainsawCharlie posted:

Top earners in benfica and sporting earn around 3 million a year. Casilas takes home around 4. Meanwhile aves and other small clubs top out at the 250-300k range. The average annual salary in the first league is around 200k by this info. The jump in salary from playing in the segunda liga to primeira liga sometimes is around 500% .there are fringe players in the second league earning 1k a month,though usualy the clubs provides room ( i.e. they live in a 3 bedroom apartment with other players,or in a apartment provided by the agent which is usualy getting payed a consultant fee by the player and club), meals and a car . its a poo poo life if youre not in a decent club, but usualy you can build a decent nests egg before starting your normal life at 35,if youre not getting scammed by your agent.then usually you go to a coaching gig, player agency,administrative role in a club or open a small bussiness.the players union kinda sorted their poo poo out a couple of years ago and has been really good in helping players invest their money.

Ps: i mean, if i was playing at a small club getting payed 100k a year, you better offer more than 3000 euros for me to throw a game, add a zero to that or something you cheap bastard.

Turns out Benfica is paying 95k to the entire team to not lose against Sporting.

blue footed boobie
Sep 14, 2012


UEFA SUPREMACY
I’m going to be heading to Portugal in September and want to catch a match. What’s the deal with getting tickets? Teams’ sites don’t seem to have tickets sections. Can I just order them in the fall? Anything else I should know?

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Well for benfica try the benfica site. Usually game tickets are on sale around 2 weeks before the game.try sending an e-mail to the adress at the bottom of the page regarding your visit dates and theyll help you out.

Meanwhile, the portuguese cup final is done and sporting lost by 2-1 to aves.

Plucky aves wins its first portuguese cup,quite a feat for a club with an operating budget of little over 3 million euros, which is less than half what sporting pays its coach every year.

I mean,at this point just take sporting round the back and end its sufering.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

lol sporting

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Desportivo das Aves, which finished in the modest 13th place of the league, won a hard fought 2-1 final against Sporting and won the Taça de Portugal, meaning the plucky Aves will be in Europa League next year.

This team has one special member, 42 year old Quim, of former Braga, Benfica and Portuguese national team fame, who made at least three vital saves. Last year he joined Aves and vowed to see Aves on the first league.

Not only did Desportivo de Aves come to the first league just last year, they survived and found a place on European competitions for next year. What an incredible effort.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

Looks like Aves isn't going to Europe after all as they never registered for it and never got the required licenses with the Portuguese football federation. This means Sporting goes instead. Sucks for the poor guys.

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
What the gently caress is that poo poo?

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Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

julian assflange posted:

What the gently caress is that poo poo?

This is how UEFA works. Clubs needs to register with their national federations every season to compete in European Football, and then UEFA gives out the licences. I'm going to imagine that these registrations and licenses cost money, so small clubs that don't have chances don't bother with it until it's too late. Aves tried to registered but after the December deadline, so they can't go.

The other club that benefits from this is Rio Ave that was out of the Europa League but now is back in.

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