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Keru
Aug 2, 2004

'n suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us 'n the sky was full of what looked like 'uge bats, all swooping 'n screeching 'n divin' around the ute.

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

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Bah, that kinda sucks.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


Yeah well my advice was sound.

Keru
Aug 2, 2004

'n suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us 'n the sky was full of what looked like 'uge bats, all swooping 'n screeching 'n divin' around the ute.
Threw it up on Vocaroo for now: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0ONpTjfqAKW

Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Solice Kirsk posted:

If you guys wanna see a whole bunch of weirdos trying to defend borderline child porn you can head over to the Berserk thread in ADTRW. Not a saga yet, but gently caress that place and everyone in it.

First gets posted here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2538641&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=327

and really picks up the last couple of pages

Be warned that the whole comic is basically an excuse to draw naked 12 year olds playing in mud and bathing together. But really it's me who's wrong about it because I read a manga that had dead naked kids in it back in 1997 and the Greeks drew naked babies or something, I don't even know.

That poo poo loving sucks. People are seriously writing poo poo like: "Creepy sexualisation of a kid aside, this is neat."

If you've reported that stuff and nothing has come of it, I'd recommend sending a PM to an admin to have a look at it, or make a QCS thread, because at a glance; the mini-community that has developed there doesn't seem able to self-police.

Grandmother of Five
May 9, 2008


I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.
In Scooby Doo villain voice, as i watch my stories: This would be neat, if it weren't for you meddling sexy kids!!

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO



2022 FIA Formula 1 WDC
No, you see, it's just like those paintings from the Renaissance! It's literally no diffent to Raphael or Da Vinci's paintings of cherubs!

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

did I get you too lol

Yep! :shobon:

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Expect My Mom posted:

I'm honestly really weirded out by how everyone else is weirded out, the newest chapter of Duranki did not phase me at at all. Maybe it's because I'm used to Japanese works using nudity as representations of purity or that Japanese families regiar;y bathe with their children into their 10's and 11s, but I really found nothing objectionable. Usum's body is clearly a plot point so to claim that Miura and his assistants are just "drawing one handed" is really dumb

There are like three million shots of the Moth demon girl's butt, her breast and nipples are always exposed and always fog covering her thighs man, come on, don't have a selective memory about this

:staredog:

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Into their...tens and elevens?

I'm confused by so much in that post. And I'm okay with that.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



nudity isn't a horny thing in a lot of cultures like it is in the anglosphere

but uh- from what I've seen in that thread and hearing about some more uncomfortable parts of Berzerk in the past, in the context of the manga in question and especially its artist, the nudity in a vacuum isn't really the problem. people who are fixating on that as a defense are really ignoring a shitload of more subtle modes of sexualization

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Isn't "some ADTRW thread gets defensive/dismissive of naked children or similar gross poo poo" a semi-common event? I remember this happening a while back with some dungeon-delving anime (Made in Abyss?) that had a lot of sketchy content involving child characters.

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


sex weirds?? in an anime thread??

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



quote:

Usum's body is clearly a plot point

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
*excessively John Mayer* ~your body is a plot point~

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

I was wondering when that thread was gonna boil over into either a saga or a QCS thread. If this gets Duranki booted off the forums, then good. I can't loving believe how many people in that thread jumped at Solice Kirsk, me and others for daring to suggest maybe the child nudity was creepy and unnecessary and possibly not, in fact, a necessary plot point without which the story simply cannot be told

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
Comparing yourself to the ancient Greeks to defend against accusations of pedophilia

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Anime is bad.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Anime is blood.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

lmao

And the berserk manga thing feels less like a saga to gossip about and more like a qcs thread imo

ulex minor
Apr 30, 2018

Antivehicular posted:

Isn't "some ADTRW thread gets defensive/dismissive of naked children or similar gross poo poo" a semi-common event? I remember this happening a while back with some dungeon-delving anime (Made in Abyss?) that had a lot of sketchy content involving child characters.

yeah it is, those threads and the culture are pretty efficient about doing the whole 'okay yes we know this might be questionable let's just stop talking about it and enjoy everything else about it' - i think it's like deep sea diving where you get acclimatised to a certain pressure slowly so you end up feeling fine about 'just 20% lewd upskirt shots of kids vs 40% and the story is really good!' but people looking in have their eyeballs pop out

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Paladinus posted:

Anime is bad.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
i'm a bit puzzled by some of the fellas in there saying to give the artist "the benefit of the doubt" considering Berserk is one of the archetypal examples of grotesque sexual violence in manga

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I always forget about QCS. I did report it and the guy got a 6er for not tagging it :nws:. I PM'd the mod more information, but felt like I was gonna wind up getting slapped with a 7 or something so opted to get a post down somewhere before that happened because they banned one of the other posters that was calling it out for posting non-nude adult porn they drew making fun of Berserk after I asked them to take a closer look at what we were discussing. I'm done with it from here and haven't been back since I saw that. I think that comic is using a non-binary protagonist as an excuse to overtly sexualize them, and the fact that they decided to make the character 12 and still find increasingly ridiculous situations to draw close ups of their naked butt taking up the full page is ridiculous. I just figured it should be getting more attention than just like four three of us now in the thread getting called prudes.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Excuse me sir, but how dare you object to my naked kid manga! What’s next? Burning the works of MICHELANGELO for their depravity?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Wasn't the last ADTRW mod ran out of town for being a sex weird?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
no, just for being overbearing and arbitrary iirc

surprisingly i don't think adtrw's had any openly sex-weird mods for a while, in part because Zorak was in the position for so long and he was one of the better-adjusted mods

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Keru posted:

Threw it up on Vocaroo for now: https://vocaroo.com/i/s0ONpTjfqAKW

Thank you so much! I knew this was the right thread to ask. The song is just as wonderful as I remember from 10+ years ago

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
adtrw aside, anyone remember this or is it just me

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

I got to thinking about the old goon rushes the other day, and specifically the final goon rush that ended them for good. I hope someone else remembers this because it's been a while and nobody really talked about it. I think this was around 04 or so?

There was a site somewhere that stole like 5 pages of cliff yablonski material, captions and all, and lowtax posted a thread all "haha check out what these assholes did, oh look they have open forums, welp I'm gonna go out for the evening byeeee." About 1-2K+ goons rush the other site's forums and do the usual, flooding in new and existing threads, etc.

But then a couple hours in some goon is like "so I checked the admin account, and he used an extremely basic guessable user/password. here they are, have fun," and then there were a couple thousand goons trying to sign in to the same admin account, getting kicked off, etc. I don't know what that was like. What I do know is every time I hit F5, entire forums and subforums would appear and disappear, stylesheets would change, it was total anarchy.

Then about a half hour after that, the same goon's like (and here's where I get real fuzzy on the details) "so I went poking around and the motherfucker used the same user/pass for his forum's admin panel (or something), oh also you can remote into the server from the internet and the auth was also easy to guess," and I don't remember if he asked the thread what to do or if it was his idea but he wiped the server and turned it into an open FTP. I watched it for a few minutes as files and folders would pop up over and over only to disappear and be replaced by different ones. there was one person who seemed determined to keep putting their furry porn up.

About 4 or 5 hours after this all began, lowtax posted "I had no idea you guys would go on a derby of destruction." When I checked a few minutes later to see what people would say to that, the thread was gone.

The next day, fragmaster (IIRC) posted a thread saying there wouldn't be any goon rushes going forward, and trying to foment one would be bannable. And then we never heard anything about it again. In fact when I PMed lowtax about this a while ago, he said "I actually don't remember that event at all!" so must not have been a problem :shrug:

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

ulex minor posted:

yeah it is, those threads and the culture are pretty efficient about doing the whole 'okay yes we know this might be questionable let's just stop talking about it and enjoy everything else about it' - i think it's like deep sea diving where you get acclimatised to a certain pressure slowly so you end up feeling fine about 'just 20% lewd upskirt shots of kids vs 40% and the story is really good!' but people looking in have their eyeballs pop out

This is an unfortunately very real thing and I wish I knew what part of human psychology causes it. "Oh if only there wasn't all that terrible poo poo in this, it might be interesting otherwise" was basically my first post on Duranki and I feel loving ashamed as hell about it. It was indefensible right from the start, but I heard people were going "pfft it's fine" and so I just kind of minced my words and left the thread alone after rethinking wtf I just said.

The sad part is if the manga hadn't immediately gotten worse in the next issue I would've probably just shut up about it for good, instead of actually saying the "actually this is hosed up" part. Even then it was Solice Kirsk who actually brought it up and made me realize that no, this isn't normal and shouldn't be here. It's a part of why I was kind of loud in that thread about it, I was mad at myself for being such a little bitch.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Son of Thunderbeast posted:

adtrw aside, anyone remember this or is it just me

No, I definitely remember that. Can't remember the name of the other site at all though. Didn't "butt rushing" become a thing right after that where a bunch of goons would log into video chats of games and then moon everyone?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I remember the Sarah Palin supporter forum where it turns out none of the mods had any actual powers because the admin was too paranoid/incompetent to give them any. Also, posting pictures of interracial couples kissing is basically as good as goatse for any remotely conservative audience.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Solice Kirsk posted:

No, I definitely remember that. Can't remember the name of the other site at all though. Didn't "butt rushing" become a thing right after that where a bunch of goons would log into video chats of games and then moon everyone?

Yeah it was some small nothing of a site, which made the whackadoo escalation that much funnier (from my end of things anyway)

No idea about the butt rushing, i never even heard of those lol

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Son of Thunderbeast posted:

adtrw aside, anyone remember this or is it just me

ohhh vaguely?? like as in I heard about it? might have been earlier than mid-03, I remember forum invasions as being a thing we were 'not lame enough' for or whatever- then again I can barely remember what was going on here before 2016, let alone fifteen years ago

the first big thing on this site where I remember spending days fuckin with people online was probably Coke Music and the whole geno thing

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I remember the Sarah Palin supporter forum where it turns out none of the mods had any actual powers because the admin was too paranoid/incompetent to give them any. Also, posting pictures of interracial couples kissing is basically as good as goatse for any remotely conservative audience.

Or having a user name that even slightly pings on the Kinsey scale.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Antivehicular posted:

Isn't "some ADTRW thread gets defensive/dismissive of naked children or similar gross poo poo" a semi-common event? I remember this happening a while back with some dungeon-delving anime (Made in Abyss?) that had a lot of sketchy content involving child characters.

Made in abyss is some child torture pedo poo poo

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
If I wasn't posting on Android and able to make a thread, I would put that gross anime thread on blast. I glanced at the last pages and its totally creepy and gross.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
re Duranki, I think a lot of the issue is that the people reading it are Berserk fans

for the uninitiated, Berserk is probably one of the nastiest and most disturbing comics ever written and has an almost stupid amount of sexual violence in it. it gets a pretty major pass from most of anime/manga fandom because, well, to be blunt, it's also really loving good. the art is gorgeous, and while the writing occasionally stumbles, it's overall a really good story about the most stubborn and angry motherfucker in all of Not Westeros and his revenge quest against a piece-of-poo poo rapist.

Duranki is by the same dude as Berserk and being talked about in the Berserk thread, which naturally means two things:

1) most people reading it have a beyond absurdly high tolerance for hosed up poo poo in their comics because Berserk basically breaks the hosed-up-poo poo scale

2) most people reading it are gonna be way more inclined to try and look past the hosed up poo poo because Kentaro Miura has a known and established habit of telling a really good story under all of that

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
I have never even opened ADRTW, for obvious reasons, and I recommend this as a lifestyle choice to anyone.

e: if you don't stop talking about anime, this is gonna become my space for working out all my storyline issues with the only good anime ever which is named SAILOR MOON and you bet your boots I remember every dumb thing about it in painful detail

you have been warned

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

have you seen the live-action version

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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

have you seen the live-action version

OMG I HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS but most of all, that they cast Minako VERY poorly and I DO NOT CARE FOR HER OVERALL STORYLINE IN THAT SERIES. Not at all.

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