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Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

The people behind 2 really 'got' dead rising, and I'm glad the first 2 games have amazing OSTs.

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Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy
this is actually the theme song to dead rising

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXRJWhA777o

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Shame about the song Lifeseeker did for off the record, because wowza that was bad.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Shame about the song Lifeseeker did for off the record, because wowza that was bad.

You take that back, the Ballad of Frank West is beautiful.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?
I actually legitimately liked the ending credits song for Dead Rising 1.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

blackguy32 posted:

I actually legitimately liked the ending credits song for Dead Rising 1.

It's all good, to me.

blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

Ibram Gaunt posted:

It's all good, to me.

Gone Guru is funny as a kind of inside joke, because the song sounds pretty loving terrible. But the song for when you fight Cliff and the ending song were legitimately good in my eyes.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
Gone Guru has some incredible rhymes, all else aside. "Ballyhoo" and "didgeridoo" is top-tier

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord
Gone Guru also has Party Robot.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Gone Guru is most notable for the shared PTSD it invokes, the song itself is good fun but not good musically

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Please tell me someone made a mod to make it so the convicts don't respawn on PC.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

SeANMcBAY posted:

Please tell me someone made a mod to make it so the convicts don't respawn on PC.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009


SeANMcBAY posted:

Please tell me someone made a mod to make it so the convicts don't respawn on PC.

Just unlock the Wonderland-Paradise shortcut and never deal with them again.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Kite Pride Worldwide posted:

Just unlock the Wonderland-Paradise shortcut and never deal with them again.

Once you're sufficiently leveled up and have been Quickstepping everywhere so you have time to spare, you can also just go out and kite them into a pole or tree and kill them in 10 seconds. As a bonus you get that sweet ride and machine gun.

Backhand
Sep 25, 2008
My personal favorite was once getting so fed up that I ran all the way to the northwest corner of the area, grabbed the sports car from the parking lot just outside the basement entrance, and T-boned those fuckers head on. It didn't kill them, but it instantly disabled their vehicle and made them easy pickings.

Seriously, for as much grief as those assholes might have caused, you have to give them that they were memorable.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
The first time I killed them, I managed to get them stuck between two trees somehow, so I could just empty a shotgun into the lot of them.

Playing it again recently, I'm actually surprised by how relatively easy it is to deal with them. I think I must just be used to more complex situations in games by now.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I have to admit that the first time I encountered the convicts I just kited them into trees and then smashed their heads in so I never quite got in on the meme about how horrifying they were though I understand it in concept.

I do, however, get the meme about that goddamn song.

Baba Yaga Fanboy
May 18, 2011

Agoat posted:

this is actually the theme song to dead rising

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXRJWhA777o

Knew what this would be before even clicking on it. This is a good and cool thing you've done, Agoat.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

ImpAtom posted:

I have to admit that the first time I encountered the convicts I just kited them into trees and then smashed their heads in so I never quite got in on the meme about how horrifying they were though I understand it in concept.

...of course you loving didn't.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I just don't get why they respawned.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy

Accordion Man posted:

Gone Guru also has Party Robot.



Baba Yaga Fanboy posted:

Knew what this would be before even clicking on it. This is a good and cool thing you've done, Agoat.

:awesomelon:

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Ibram Gaunt posted:

I just don't get why they respawned.
It was their identical twin brothers that were also incarcerated in the same prison.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

The convicts are only really a pain when you've got survivors with you. On your own, it's fairly easy to take them out.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Having now watched... 8 hours of footage I can safely say these things

1. This is basically Dead Rising 3 except brighter
2. Frank needs to shut his loving mouth because his quips ever 10 seconds are not as funny as the person writing this game seems to think they are.
3. Frank had his rear end in a top hat factor rammed up to unlikable. He's obsessed with his fame and nothing else. Which is a pretty rapid departure from how he previously was where he absolutely wanted the world to know his name and to put himself back in the spotlight, but was genuinely a decent person underneath it all.
4. Whoever decided that the one thing missing from DR1 was Kent being an ally is a loving monster for making Vicky. She is an awful person, in a game of NPCs who are unlikable she is the least likable.
5. This plot makes less sense than usual
6. For all the hyping up of the game being set in the new mall, you're there for about an hour, and then you're basically in Los Perdidos again.
7. There is no such thing as fun super zombies who leap around like ninja's and take a billion hits to kill. On that same note, saying "Well, the Fast Zombies are actually Freshly Infected Zombies" is frankly really stupid, since it's been 6 weeks since the outbreak occurred. If it's only the "Freshly infected" there should be like... one or two, not a loving horde of them.
8. By far the worst bosses. Not just because the Maniacs are all boring as poo poo. But even the in-story boss fights are dull affairs.

If I had to rank the games It'd be like... OTR>2>1>The DLC add-on for 3, 4<>3, CTYD.

Like 4 is maybe a better game than 3? It's basically which flavor of poo poo you prefer. Boring or insulting.

Although I'm pretty sure everyone else already came to this conclusion seeing as the thread's been quiet and I've not seen discussion anywhere else.

Good Lord Fisher!
Jul 14, 2006

Groovy!

Having now played and beat the game, it's pretty fun. Certainly better than 3, although it does some stuff I like and some stuff I hate.

Talkc
Aug 2, 2010

Mizuki! Mizuki! Mizuki!
***DEVASTATINGLY HANDSOME***
So after reading up in this thread etc.. im guessing the best bang for my fun buck is getting Dead Rising 2: Off the Record?

I dont know how coop works in these but im looking to pickup a couple of copies.

Is sandbox mode coop? Is campaign coop? Do we both play frank? How required is a controller for this?

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

Onmi posted:

Having now watched... 8 hours of footage I can safely say these things

1. This is basically Dead Rising 3 except brighter
2. Frank needs to shut his loving mouth because his quips ever 10 seconds are not as funny as the person writing this game seems to think they are.
3. Frank had his rear end in a top hat factor rammed up to unlikable. He's obsessed with his fame and nothing else. Which is a pretty rapid departure from how he previously was where he absolutely wanted the world to know his name and to put himself back in the spotlight, but was genuinely a decent person underneath it all.
4. Whoever decided that the one thing missing from DR1 was Kent being an ally is a loving monster for making Vicky. She is an awful person, in a game of NPCs who are unlikable she is the least likable.
5. This plot makes less sense than usual
6. For all the hyping up of the game being set in the new mall, you're there for about an hour, and then you're basically in Los Perdidos again.
7. There is no such thing as fun super zombies who leap around like ninja's and take a billion hits to kill. On that same note, saying "Well, the Fast Zombies are actually Freshly Infected Zombies" is frankly really stupid, since it's been 6 weeks since the outbreak occurred. If it's only the "Freshly infected" there should be like... one or two, not a loving horde of them.
8. By far the worst bosses. Not just because the Maniacs are all boring as poo poo. But even the in-story boss fights are dull affairs.

Please don't feel as if you have to share your opinion based upon footage you've watched. That's a valid source of customer research, but as a basis for critical evaluation, it's fundamentally lacking.

1, 2) Yeah, I agree, although there are a couple of mechanical steps backward from DR3. I like the new inventory system even if it is effectively a buff, but I miss the ability to throw melee weapons, because I'm the dude who spends DR2 bouncing cash registers off of people.
3) I think I get what they were going for: Frank is deliberately keeping everyone at arm's length because he doesn't want yet another dead friend on his conscience. He's definitely too wry.
4) Vick isn't that bad. Searching for her collectibles gives you a much broader idea of her characterization and motivations than simply watching the cutscenes, and you're outright handed a couple of her uploads by Brad at various points. Basically, she showed up in the field intending to cover the story, wound up compromising in order to try to keep as many people alive as possible, and went way over the top when she figured out the real story. She's deliberately meant as a younger, more idealistic foil to Frank.
5) It makes plenty of sense, although it's built on a hefty retcon. Obscuris was employed by the U.S. government for research and development on "Project Saturn": whether or not zombies could be trained to carry out menial labor, using cloned infectees. They conducted that research in Willamette while they searched for Barnaby's data, but when they found his old lab, they also found the experimental technology that ended up saving Calder. Calder goes crazy and becomes virtually unstoppable, causing the second Willamette outbreak on Black Friday by running amok at the mall, and Obscuris locks down Willamette so they can pursue Calder and the sole remaining copy of Barnaby's research data that he's carrying around with him.
6) Yeah, definitely a valid criticism. The marketing would have had you believe you were stuck in the mall for the entirety of the game again.
7) I didn't have a problem with the fresh zombies because there are still hundreds of surviving humans left in Willamette, between Obscuris, the civilians, the cultists, and the militia. There's still a lot of people running around, and a lot of "fresh" zombies are explicitly newly-dead soldiers or cultists.
8) Yeah, you're not wrong. I think the most "interesting" boss fight in the entire game is Fontana, since at least you aren't stuck into a loving exo suit to do it.

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

Wanderer posted:

1, 2) Yeah, I agree, although there are a couple of mechanical steps backward from DR3. I like the new inventory system even if it is effectively a buff, but I miss the ability to throw melee weapons, because I'm the dude who spends DR2 bouncing cash registers off of people.

Wait you can't throw weapons in the new game? Haha what the gently caress are they doing.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

Gobblecoque posted:

Wait you can't throw weapons in the new game? Haha what the gently caress are they doing.

I don't think even the developers know. I can see the series go into hiatus for a long time like Mega Man because Dead Rising 4 hasn't been overly well received. Which actually irks me more than if they just ended the series at 3.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011

Talkc posted:

So after reading up in this thread etc.. im guessing the best bang for my fun buck is getting Dead Rising 2: Off the Record?

I dont know how coop works in these but im looking to pickup a couple of copies.

Is sandbox mode coop? Is campaign coop? Do we both play frank? How required is a controller for this?

I don't know if it works with sandbox though I'm sure it does. The campaign supports full co-op though. Host is Frank, client is Chuck. Makes the Chuck fight slightly awkward. Never played non-controller so you might look up Steam reviews (or reviews from sites/publications when it releases) and see if they mention quality m&kb support.

You both have to stay in the same loaded area but that shouldn't be an issue if you're playing with a friend.

Caesarian Sectarian
Oct 19, 2004

...

The loss of the nutty cinemetic intros and outros to the maniacs is the biggest crime in this game.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Caesarian Sectarian posted:

The loss of the nutty cinemetic intros and outros to the maniacs is the biggest crime in this game.

It's the best thing about the series imo.

Talkc
Aug 2, 2010

Mizuki! Mizuki! Mizuki!
***DEVASTATINGLY HANDSOME***
As a heads up all the Dead Rising games that are on steam are on sale, for really good prices. I just picked up Dead Rising 3 for 8.99, and Dead Rising 2: Off the Record for 5.99.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005

Dead Rising 4 is kind of a mess but I'm near the end of Case 2 and Frank's personality, default outfit, the city's design and overall tone makes the entire game feel like a reimagining of Evil Dead A Fistful of Boomstick , which I played and finished over a decade ago and never expected to think about ever again.

Other than that the game feels extremely empty despite how detailed the environments are. Most of my time so far has been spent following the objective marker and very rarely I'll get a prompt to clear a safe house. Is that really all there is to do? Unless you're into hunting collectibles there doesn't seem to be anything to do now that you no longer have to escort survivors and the timer is gone.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

GUI posted:

Dead Rising 4 is kind of a mess but I'm near the end of Case 2 and Frank's personality, default outfit, the city's design and overall tone makes the entire game feel like a reimagining of Evil Dead A Fistful of Boomstick , which I played and finished over a decade ago and never expected to think about ever again.

Other than that the game feels extremely empty despite how detailed the environments are. Most of my time so far has been spent following the objective marker and very rarely I'll get a prompt to clear a safe house. Is that really all there is to do? Unless you're into hunting collectibles there doesn't seem to be anything to do now that you no longer have to escort survivors and the timer is gone.

Pretty much. The maniac's have no personality so they're basically just stronger Mobs. Once you have the Ice Sword everything in the game melts and ceases to be a threat. Beyond that, exactly what you described.

AlphaKretin
Dec 25, 2014

A vase to face encounter.

...Vase to meet you?

...

GARVASE DAY!

Onmi posted:

Once you have the Ice Sword everything in the game melts

This seems... backwards. :v:

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

AlphaKretin posted:

This seems... backwards. :v:

I'm aware, but apparently a melee weapon which locks enemies in place and fires shockwaves on its basic attack has the properties of literally melting zombie hordes.

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
A new and exciting comparison video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUxJpDtg0Bs

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.




This just makes me like DR1 more. It's amazing how much detail they put into that game.

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Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord

SeANMcBAY posted:

This just makes me like DR1 more. It's amazing how much detail they put into that game.

It does seem like the devs tried really hard with Dead Rising. It also seems like the Dead Rising 4 team didn't try very hard at all.

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