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edrith
Apr 10, 2013
One of Trump's guys accused Khizr Khan of being a Muslim Brotherhood double agent.

Why a Pakistani guy who left in the late 70s would be interested in recruiting for an Egyptian organization, I have no idea. Oh right, because Muslims are all a shadowy monolithic group of anti-American terrorists.

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edrith
Apr 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/bkesling/status/760157018430713856

okay rush

Also the VFW sent out a letter denouncing Trump going after the Khans. He just addressed them last week. Good job.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

please let donald trump blacklist the new york times. please let him bar the last relevant american newspaper not in part owned by murdoch from his events. please let this happen. they already hate him, and i want to see what it'd be like for them to go all the way in on their disgust. please, donald. please revoke the new york times' access to your events. you know you want to.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:

Oh there have been times in American history where racism was definitely created by the upper class. At the least I would say rich folk have exasperated racial tension when it benefits themselves. Unfortunately when that happens, the racism sticks around long past its utility to the rich.

Rich southern slave owners created (really copied) a brutal system of racism to keep poor whites from finding unity with the poor blacks.

Hell, anytime the economy is not doing well, just use some race as a scape goat. Oh white folk don't have jobs? It's the drat Mexicans fault! People eagerly gobble up that poo poo.

What I am trying to say is eat the rich.

This is from a few pages back but that's...really not how racism works. Racial scapegoating in times of economic stress is of course a thing, and rich slave owners might have exploited racism along those lines, but they didn't "create" a brutal system of racism, and they didn't create chattel slavery out of whole cloth. If you want to understand the history of racism in America, you have to understand the history of racism (and Islamophobia, and especially antisemitism, because a lot of antisemitic tropes were borrowed to define new-discovered Native Americans/used to justify their enslavement/etc) in pre-Age of Discovery Europe. Racism has never been solely about class or money and it has rhetorical roots that date back to ancient Greece.

Check out the compendium Race in Early Modern England by Ania Loomba and Jonathan Burton; it's mostly a collection of primary sources and it's easy to pick out tropes from modern mainstream racist discourse in these texts from, like, 1430. It's commonly available in university libraries, and you can easily find a PDF of the whole thing online. Class issues are obviously important, but they're not anywhere near the only thing that drives American racism.

Eating the rich is of course a very good goal but it's not gonna kill racism in the cradle.

Also, gently caress an Eric Trump for saying his sister would choose not to be sexually harassed. I guaran-goddamn-tee that she has been sexually harassed at least twice a week every week of her life since she's turned ten, because that's the reality for women, especially women whose male social circle consists mainly of silver-spoon entitled brats who can use their trust funds to make rape accusations go away. Him saying this makes me think he makes women uncomfortable and thinks because there wasn't a verbal "Stop doing that" he didn't do anything wrong. Let your sister speak, you cretinous axolotl.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

Lightning Knight posted:

It's not like it ever went away. The American Right glorifies Zionism (as in literal right-wing Jewish nationalism for Israel) the same way it glorifies the American soldier. Soldiers are useful when they're in posters on the back of the recruiter's office, not as real people with real problems that need real solutions and who might not always agree with you.

They don't like Jewish people, they're just considered useful or necessary to the religious right (to fulfill their inane prophecies) and the neoconservatives (to further geopolitical goals).

Left antisemitism is also a thing - especially, I have found, in younger circles. Israel Bad, Israel Jewish state, therefore all Jews support Israel - conclusion: Jews Bad.

The joke is that conservatives say "I'm not antisemitic, I'm a Zionist!" and liberals say "I'm not antisemitic, I'm just anti-Zionist!"

iospace posted:

Anyway, racism may not have roots in class warfare, but they're entangled now that they're pretty much one in the same, especially here since most of the poor, urban areas do tend to be overwhelmingly black, and the poor white areas tend to be overwhelmingly racist (and gods forbid if a black person gets and of their welfare).

Oh, I'm not denying that, I'm just saying that complete economic equality won't necessarily instantly destroy racism. Ta-Nehisi Coates put out a few articles about this during Bernie's February surge, the first of which lays out the problem very well:

Ta-Nehisi Coates posted:

There is no need to be theoretical about this. Across Europe, the kind of robust welfare state Sanders supports—higher minimum wage, single-payer health-care, low-cost higher education—has been embraced. Have these policies vanquished racism? Or has race become another rubric for asserting who should benefit from the state’s largesse and who should not? And if class-based policy alone is insufficient to banish racism in Europe, why would it prove to be sufficient in a country founded on white supremacy? ...

We now know that for every dollar of wealth white families have, black families have a nickel. We know that being middle class does not immunize black families from exploitation in the way that it immunizes white families. We know that black families making $100,000 a year tend to live in the same kind of neighborhoods as white families making $30,000 a year. We know that in a city like Chicago, the wealthiest black neighborhood has an incarceration rate many times worse than the poorest white neighborhood. This is not a class divide, but a racist divide.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-liberal-imagination/425022/

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
Rep. Richard Hanna, a Republican from New York, is voting for Hillary.

quote:

I do not expect perfection, but I do require more than the embodiment of at least a short list of the seven deadly sins.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/760802081347399680

:stare:

granted, those are old tweets, but at least one of them is still up.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
lol

quote:

"I follow the law," Trump said. "I follow a law the way it's supposed to be. I never thought to stay here without papers. I had visa. I travel every few months back to the country, to Slovenia, to stamp the visa. I came back. I applied for the green card. I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system. I went by the law, and you should do that."

But there is usually no need to travel back and forth every few months to "stamp the visa." H-1B work visa holders are generally admitted to the U.S. for a three-year duration. Employers of H-1B visa holders can also petition to extend the holder's stay in the U.S.

A tourist visa is a different matter. Your duration of stay is set by the immigration authorities when you arrive, with a maximum of six months. To keep your status, you would have to leave the U.S. when that period expired. But you generally can't work in the U.S. with a B-2 tourist visa. And repeated lengthy stays in the U.S. on a B-2 visa (which can be valid for multiple entries and 10 years) would tend to raise eyebrows at a U.S. port of entry.

Which visa did Melania Knauss have? If she had a work visa, why was it necessary to travel back and forth every few months to stamp it? If she had a tourist visa, why was she working?

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

zoux posted:

Read about how CU opened up US elections to foreign money

https://mobile.twitter.com/OrrChris/status/760898610959683584

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/760889321029242881

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
I still don't understand how facebook trends work (are they personalized? idk), but my top trend in both the Top Trend and Politics sections is "Melania Trump." Because she possibly came to the US illegally. Her statement refuting Politico's accusations was just repeating "I wasn't here illegally" (on twitter) without saying what kind of visa she was on. And any credibility she has regarding her past is shot anyways given the degree thing. Aaaand I see outlets that are not Politico and HuffPo are talking about it.

Please, Election Santa, give this to me. Give me proof that Melania Trump committed visa fraud. I've been so good this year.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
trump's new york guy is getting out the vote in the most effective way

a raving lunatic posted:

Buffalo developer Carl P. Paladino, co-chair of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump's New York campaign, told a New York newspaper Thursday that President Barack Obama is a Muslim -- thereby reviving a myth that objective fact-checkers have debunked repeatedly for years.

Paladino told the New York Observer that the president has tried to mislead the American people into believing he is a Christian, but that the public doesn't buy it.

“In the mind of the average American, there is no doubt he is a Muslim,” Paladino told the New York Observer. “He is not a Christian.”

The story, by Observer reporter Will Bredderman, said Paladino made those comments in a telephone interview for an unrelated story, in which he "abruptly changed gears" to attack the president.

for those who don't know WNY politics or weren't following the 2010 race for governor, local hero carl paladino got his start by marrying into a family that got rich because they managed to hide the funds their patriarch embezzled from the state when he was arrested. carl's done things like run on an anti-gay platform while owning a gay bar, almost lose (by a margin of less than 100 votes) to an 18-year-old still in high school for a school board seat, send bestiality pictures and racist memes around to his constituents, and try to get preservation status taken off a building he wanted to ~develop~ by sending a letter to the preservation board claiming it was a gay brothel and thus not worthy of status. he's a loon. also he probably has more cash on hand on any given time than trump does lol

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

Lightning Knight posted:

:laffo: now I want to know what she listens to. :allears:

going from my 65-year-old mom's musical tastes: pink martini, radiohead, patsy cline, the hamilton ocr, and godflesh

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

comes along bort posted:

Regular Godflesh or the remix albums?

regular, as is correct

she likes ambient black metal because "it's soothing"

Tempest_56 posted:

I was sorely disappointed when the 18 year old didn't beat him for the school board, and I pray for the day he is inevitably jailed for one of his shadier business deals.

pretty sure 18-year-old is still putting together a lawsuit against him for revealing his suspension record, which was not a thing he should have done. "Paladino Stripped of School Board Seat For Violating Privacy Rules" is a headline that could occur in the next coupla months

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
There's a front-page article about the Khans in today's new york times that i am sure trump will erupt at in a few hours. interviews with captain khan's former fiancee, with an iranian-american kid he protected from bullies in high school, with a member of his unit, with the lady who runs the fabric store mrs. khan started working at to stave off her depression, with people involved in the UVA ROTC...and then there's this:

quote:

“For years, I’ve been telling people he’s the most patriotic person I’ve ever met, and I’ve met quite a few,” Mr. Leroux said of Mr. Khan. “There are people who will put on cutoffs of the American flag and say they’re patriotic. Or they’ll put on bumper stickers — America, Love It or Leave It — and say they’re patriotic. He has a much more profound idea of being patriotic. It’s a complete understanding of what liberty and democracy mean.”

...


In recent years, [Khizr Khan] had gone out on his own as a legal consultant. A few days ago, he took down the website promoting his law work. He said that he was getting hateful messages and that he was worried about it being hacked. Insinuations were being made, that he was involved in shady immigration cases. He said he has had no clients come to him for that sort of work. He said he did commercial law, especially electronic discovery work.

gently caress these people trying to destroy his reputation. gently caress the people attacking this poor woman who is still paralyzed by her son's death twelve years later. Jesus. Leave the poor family alone.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

PST posted:

I didn't think US journalists/presenters called people out like this:

Carl Paladino: "I know which side you're on ma'am."

Joy: "Not Vladimir Putin's."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apKqRFmrydY

seeing carl "rotting fester addams but with more bestiality" paladino yelled at on national television warms my cold heart

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/NPRinskeep/status/763018829660381184

lol this is like the second or third tweet I've seen from some bigwig on NPR with the gist of "We have a standing invitation for you or Manafort to come on our show during primetime" after trump starts blathering about how the mainstream media is ignoring him

please rise to the bait, trump, i wanna see the milquetoasty east coast liberals tear you to shreds

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

Doccers posted:

So Mussolini's militia was the Blackshirts, Hitler's militia was the Brownshirts, will Trumps militia be the Redshirts?

(Star trek reference ahoy)



(local health insurance company slogan. Makes me cackle every time I drive by their billboards.)

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
trump has to go for a hearing about his rape case

in september.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

waitwhatno posted:

so, did trump rape some folks? (I'm not caught up on his latest exploits yet, stopped watching when he started beefing with that infant)

he's been accused of raping a girl who was 13 at the time in the 90s. there was a case filed in california that was dismissed on technical grounds and refiled in new york state.

the lawsuit will probably fail because the Jane Doe filing it wants to override the statute of limitations, but, you know. false rape accusations are genuinely pretty rare and there has to be a better way to orchestrate a money grab than suing a person with a team of on-staff lawyers (that he doesn't pay)

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

CommieGIR posted:

And his Trump University case is going forward.

yeah, and that's also delicious, but he doesn't have to be in court for that til after the election.

The Republican nominee has to appear at a hearing for a sexual assault lawsuit when he's supposed to be focusing on campaigning and debate prep. Granted, I'm not very up on historical elections, but I'm pretty sure nothing like that has happened before. Trump is truly a game changer.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

Le Saboteur posted:

Trump surrogates still fighting the good fight. https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/764188155171991552

carl paladino sent his constituents hardcore horse porn and is also a walking cadaver bloated from rot so idk where he's getting off complaining about the khans' moral rectitude or hillary's health

edrith
Apr 10, 2013

pacerhimself posted:

It seems there's been a whole lot of military buildup by the Russian military along the border of Ukraine and in Russian controlled areas of Ukraine. Perhaps the Trumpster fire is a distraction to keep media attention away from Putin's misdeeds.

(I know this is dumb, just fueling the Trump as a Putin toady theory)

One of my friends is completely convinced that Putin is going to invade Estonia within the next three years. Specifically Estonia, because they have a large and apparently disliked Russian minority. How stupid is she being? I'm assuming very.

On Terra Firma posted:

I'm trying to think of a way of googling "paladino horse porn" and not scarring myself with the results.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/tea-party-ny-gov-candidate-s-e-mails-exposed-racism-porn-bestiality

quote:

A September 2009 email entitled, "Easy Steady Big Fella....XXXX," with a photograph that graphically depicts a horse having sex with a woman.

he's still stupid influential in Western New York :sigh:

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
uh apparently an imam was murdered and his assistant shot and put in the hospital in critical condition in Queens today

http://abcnews.go.com/US/imam-shot-dead-mosque-queens-ny/story?id=41360569

oh boy

e: i'm hearing on twitter that the assistant also died but no links yet

e2: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/2-Men-Shot-Queens-Ozone-Park-390080932.html second man died. witnesses say it wasn't a robbery, some guy just walked up to them on the street and shot them :(

edrith fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Aug 13, 2016

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
Jesus this is awful

A Lebanese-American man was killed by a man who had repeatedly violently targeted his family for years, to the point of running over his mother with a car, because he thought they were Muslims

They're Christian.

How the gently caress this guy was out on bond after attempted vehicular manslaughter of a woman who had a restraining order against him?

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
Today, in trolling: Ivanka bought some jewelry and the designers donated the proceeds to Hillary.

I'm checking out their website and drat, girlfriend is budget shopping. I have a couple pieces of jewelry of comparable price and I barely make a living wage. I know she probably just likes the style but I like to think this is another indication that the Trumps don't actually have that much money.

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
https://twitter.com/CandaceSmith_/status/766404296007122944
https://twitter.com/CandaceSmith_/status/766404618041556993

I'm assuming what they mean by "matched profile of known protester" is "you're ambiguously brown"

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
namechat: i know a two-year-old named Bridger and a three-year-old named Aaro, plus a Gigi (not short for anything), a Lexi (again, not short for anything), an Ahna, an Arli, and a Denim. Also a Wulfgar. His brother's name is Samuel. all of these kids are white.

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edrith
Apr 10, 2013
Lovely, my alma mater is getting in trouble because they're offering a diversity course for RAs. Just for RAs, mind you.

http://www.syracuse.com/state/index.ssf/2016/08/suny_binghamton_offering_stop_white_people_course_controversy_ensues.html

Stupid name? Yeah, I guess. But when I was last there, there was a huge controversy because the liberal student newspaper published an editorial claiming that doing blackface for Halloween was about as racist as dressing up as an Oompa-Loompa. That led to the (few) black staff on the paper resigning in protest. The conservative student newspaper (the Review, who first reported on the story) likes to make rape jokes on its covers and accuse protesting black students of being Marxists.

Bing has a pretty diverse student body with a lot of resources - lots of exchange students from India and South Korea, one of the only Arabic majors at a public school in the country, lots of kids from poor families in New York City - but all my RAs were white, and I had black friends with very serious complaints about how they were treated by faculty. Bing also has the typical institutional bad-at-handling-on-campus-sexual-assault problem, to the point of having an open Title IX investigation in 2014. But having the RAs recognize these issues and get the tools to deal with them is bad because cultural marxism or something.

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