Cardboard Box A posted:

http://samuelwhitefield.com/1811/four-issues-to-consider-before-you-vote-trump-what-is-really-at-stake

They know enough to know what Trump is saying and doing is wrong, and yet they are still supporting him.

Why? Because we are never compelled by our ideals like we are by our loves. And when you look at Donald Trump through the shared loves of the evangelical Culture, he starts to make perfect sense.

Evangelicals don’t believe in Donald Trump as much as they love Donald Trump and all that Donald Trump represents. Watch these rallies and you will quickly see they have nothing to do with inspiring ideas and hopeful policies; they’re worship services. And standing on the stage before the great throng of longing souls is the manifestation of their common love feeding their hungry hearts with his nonsense.

Holy poo poo

GalacticAcid posted:

Catholics Must Resist Ethnonationalism - good essay in First Things.

Mr Interweb posted:

Since emailgate will be back in the news for a bit, I have a question.

Comey said that although they have no proof that her server was hacked, they do seem to think that it's possible that the people she e-mailed got hacked. Assuming that's true...how exactly is that Hillary's fault exactly?

GalacticAcid posted:

Couple pages back but yeah never read comment sections.

edrith posted:

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/760889321029242881

Night10194 posted:

Isn't that like an organized crime thing?

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

Don't be deceptive. 'Trickle down' economics do not involve taxes. Levying taxes on the people who reap the largesse of trade deals and turning those taxes in to social service is not trickle-down but shake-down economics.

Civilized Fishbot posted:

Taxing high income earners and creating social safety nets is politically difficult, but not nearly as much as preventing trade from happening

Civilized Fishbot posted:

no, we shouldn't do that, we should demand that big businesses give their money to poor people. this would make trade, an inevitable part of the 21st century economy, into a completely good thing

Civilized Fishbot posted:

what i'm saying is that they're wrong that limiting trade is more possible than expanding the social safety net, and it's the other way around

Mel Mudkiper posted:

We are seeing a generational shift coming so this may not be as implausible as you think

Lightning Knight posted:

TPP as written is mediocre with bad provisions but free trade is literally an unstoppable Pandora's box and the negative side effects of it are able to be mitigated by things like labor laws and environmental regulation. Some leftists think protectionism and anti-free trade are better bets than those things, and they will be sad when they realize they're wrong.

Civilized Fishbot posted:

the social safety nets we have work well, we just need way more of them

and outsourcing (which the TPP facilitates) necessarily hurts people in the outsourced jobs unless there's a redistribution to help those people

Popular Thug Drink posted:

if we can't expand the social safety net at all then why do you think we can stop free trade deals either

Civilized Fishbot posted:

if X isn't going to happen, stopping trade really isn't going to loving happen, so X is still our best option from a variety of lovely options

Kilroy posted:

If you're so loving worried about all this freelance propaganda work he's doing for the Russians then how about supporting a deal whereby he can return to the US without having his brains blown out and dumped off a bridge somewhere?

MariusLecter posted:

He wishes really hard.

Mantis42 posted:

Then there are those people who kind of realize that thinks are hosed up and that business and government tend to collude a lot, so they turn to libertarianism as a kind of 'babies first ideology'. Either they stay in a bubble of middle class privilege and are never challenged on the specifics of their beliefs, turning into Penn Jillette style weirdos, or, after getting hosed over by the private sector enough, they either grow out of it or evolve into radical leftists.

Shifty Pony posted:

And preemption isn't something that should be taken lightly or applied liberally.

Quandary posted:

Gonna need a Spotify playlist of these ASAP.

iospace posted:

A lot of them want V8 power, which the police chargers are. Rental Spec chargers are usually V6s. Tauruses are Twin Turbo V6s which make 350+ HP, but it's ~not a V8~, so whatever (it's also AWD, no clue if the Charger is though).

Boon posted:

I don't necessarily agree. I think the problem wasn't that the same material was covered, it's that it was covered from essentially the same angle. Remember that Stewart and Colbert were essentially doing the same thing as well, the difference is that Colbert began his show by covering it from the angle of a Bill O'Reilly style host (I say began because Colbert became his own thing in the years after).

Augus posted:

I seriously can't tell if this is made by liberals trolling Trump supporters or a genuine attempt by Trump supporters to make it look like Trump is winning Florida in a landslide.

theflyingorc posted:

...if you swap the party and candidate names, it becomes completely nonsense, what are you talking about

quote:

STRATEGY IMPLICATIONS:
It is of paramount importance that the Hillary Clinton campaign continue to promote the narrative that Trump is or has reached terminal levels in polling. The only number in this survey going in the right direction is the belief that Mr. Trump will lose the election...Liberal/Democratic voters are fortunately immune to any negative information or evidence against Mrs. Clinton. Apparently her lack of honesty and corrupt nature are “factored in” to her support. Our recommendations are to keep her out of the public eye as much as possible

quote:

STRATEGY IMPLICATIONS:
It is of paramount importance that the Donald Trump campaign continue to promote the narrative that Clinton is or has reached terminal levels in polling. The only number in this survey going in the right direction is the belief that Mrs. Clinton will lose the election...Conservative/Republican voters are fortunately immune to any negative information or evidence against Mr. Trump. Apparently his lack of honesty and corrupt nature are “factored in” to his support. Our recommendations are to keep him out of the public eye as much as possible

iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/766415692866457601

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Philly ain't Yinzer country

You gotta get past Harrisburg to hit Yinzer country

Yinzer's proudest achievement is putting fries on sandwiches


Musicals =! Operas

nutranurse posted:

gfsincere posted:

Hey, you can always shut your cockholster anytime.

Kalman posted:

You are free to use inferior cheaper alternatives.

But hey maybe when someone does something hard they should be rewarded for it? And this turned out to be something hard to do.

berserker posted:

Are they forgetting that Ford was a huge racist and Nazi sympathizer?

SSNeoman posted:

I honestly have this stance but I keep questioning whether it's right or not because of how absolutist it is.

However I cannot think of a single Republican policy, one which is not bipartisan in some way, that would help society.

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/770624742818738177

Goddamn that is petty bullshit.