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mlmp08
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Looking for help identifying this ribbon. It was found among some pretty easily ID'd WW2 Army ribbons, but who knows? edit: US Army that is.

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Crazycryodude posted:

When they're low, sure, they're noisy as all hell. Up high, though, you don't even know it's there until a Hellfire comes out of nowhere. The Predator's operational ceiling is at least 25,000 feet, and I can't imagine that you'd be able to hear it when it's above even a few thousand. Now, I'm not familiar with the specifics of drone usage and tactics, maybe they're only really useful (due to camera resolution, targeting precision, whatever) when they're flying low enough to hear but I'd assume that height doesn't play too much of a role in their operations - we've had the optics technology since around the 80's iirc to build spy satellites that have a resolution fine enough to distinguish individual footprints from orbit, I think a drone that can still be precise at a decent altitude is completely possible.

There are plenty of noisy drones. The shadow sounds like a drat lawn mower even when it's high enough that you probably can't see it. It's not armed, but the folks on the ground who just got bombed after the shadow spotted them might not know that.

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The best scene in fury is breakfast and everything after Pitt leaves the turret during the final battle is a fever-dream hallucinated by a very scared and scarred soldier.

I liked it.

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bewbies posted:

I think Fury is the first movie I've seen that actually got the way bullets sound and tracers look right. I always appreciated that.

Why is it that war movies always feature actors that are way, way, way too drat old to be in the army? Hey, I'm 40 year old lieutenant clint eastwood and I'm taking orders from 42 year old tom hanks who must be the oldest infantry captain in the ETO, except then he meets 51 year old airborne captain ted danson and everybody is surprised until 46 year old lieutenant brad pitt walks up only to be outdone by 51 year old staff sergeant brad pitt

I guess I'd rather a competent actor than correct ages, but war movies kind of lose something when you gloss over the number of situations where people are dealing with hosed up, life or death situations, and the old guy in the squad is maybe pushing 30.

Matt Damon played the youngest of four brothers in Saving Private Ryan and he was 25-26 at filming and 27 or 28 at release. That's a case where I feel like rolling up on a scrawny 18 year-old would've had more impact to the audience. Not to mention how stark the change in perception is in real life when you're off to go talk to 2LT Whoever, and you roll up on a guy with grey hair and realize he'd probably been a senior NCO before changing over instead of a kid who graduated college 9 months ago.

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bewbies posted:

I've also never really understood why people think they want realistic war movies. If a war movie was realistic it would be really really really really boring for the first two and half hours and then the last 15 minutes would be really loud and confusing

Yeah. Even if it's cool to occasionally have a particular system or whatever work in a realistic way, you're going to want it to be otherwise pretty bonkers compared to real life. Or just have it as a thriller that happens to have a single realistic battle scene or gun fight.

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lenoon posted:

War movies seem to achieve good levels of accuracy in segments. Like the tense waiting followed by insane carnage of the beginning of saving private Ryan or the hour and a half of cock jokes in Hitler my part in his downfall, or when the barbed wire comes alive in deathwatch.

War movies can accurately capture feelings. But when you try to get all sperglord accurate, you lose sight of the actual goal.

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FAUXTON posted:

Legwear ain't poo poo but britches and hose

The fact that you inverted the line is triggering me hard.

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lenoon posted:

Britches ain't poo poo but hose and tricks

I hate that I have to point this out.

Britches ain't poo poo but hose and stitch.

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PittTheElder posted:

Today I learned that tanks can jump:

You know what else can jump?

hostile apostle posted:

600 lb ANFO IED detonates under MRAP, Afghanistan 2015

http://gfycat.com/HonorableWetHog.gifv

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Endman posted:

Jesus that's loving morbid.

Nobody died.

But I'm sure the TBI is a bitch.

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Pontius Pilate posted:

Your link is MIA.

For some reason Apple devices can't comprehend that link.

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bewbies posted:

It seems to me like emission control is one of the things that laypeople really don't understand very well about the modern battlefield. It is absolutely crazy when you see graphical representations of how emitters "look" to collection assets...it really is like turning on a flashlight in a dark room, except that you can tell exactly who manufactured the flashlight, and when, and you can be pretty sure who the specific owner of the flashlight is, and how much juice the flashlight batteries have left, and etc

In semi related news the army and marines are trying really hard to figure out how to reduce signatures of units in the field and the biggest issue currently is cell phones that the joes haul around with them.

If they want joes to stop carrying around cell phones, they're gonna have to grow up a bit and just fund a tactical system that lets joe download porn and skype with his wife/girlfriend/camgirl.

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JcDent posted:

What, TFR agreed on 9mm vs. .45 ACP, 5.56mm vs. 7.62mm and, I dunno, Strykers and gun rights?

Because at least /k/ is full folks who get misty-eyed about Rhodesia and who are eagerly waiting for a "chimpout", so I wonder how TFR handles that crowd.

Not as aggressively and assertively as it used to, but better than most every other gun forum that exists. When the POTUS starts talking about gun control, people get real willing to go along with posters who are openly bigots.

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Don Gato posted:

I took leave and am with my family, my friends who didn't take leave got Friday and Monday off. Last year when I was in language training I got two weeks of block leave where I could take time off or be put on pointless details.


Generally they make you do pointless details if you don't take leave in my experience.

In a few hours I get to drive around again making sure all the gates are locked and that staff duty didn't fall asleep or die. Woo!

To be fair I signed myself up for this day cause I don't have kids, and my subordinates not taking leave do.

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bewbies posted:

I finally finished this thing for new kid:



it remains to be seen how much it may or may not influence his chickenhawk jingoistic tendencies

Nice.

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HEY GAL posted:

objectively, they matter less.

about two gulden/month less.

Don't confuse incentive pay with mattering.

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Military History.

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

I'm pretty sure the official story is, in fact, that the system worked fine, it was the crew that hosed up

Yeah. Even though at the time the crew didn't get in any trouble IIRC.

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The confederacy resulted in the officer's oath getting more convoluted and harder to memorize, since former US CSA officers managed to weasel their way through saying that hey hadn't broken their oath.

For that alone I demand retribution.

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Steel Division 1944 is really fun. Give me infantry and AT guns and artillery and air power for days. Then crush tankers to dust.

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For all your spatulastic needs

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JcDent posted:

A more stupid MG question: are M2s still in production? I once read somewhere that we're still riding WW2 stocks.

They are still making new production M2A1s, as far as I know. But they're mostly upgrading existing M2s. However, there are guns in service still from WW2 and even older, with one of the oldest being something like 90 years old.

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Water-cooled systems make more sense when weight is less of a factor than it is for infantry mobility:

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Doesn't hold a candle to Chicken Cheese with Diesel

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3498320&userid=25431#post409791801

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Phanatic posted:

Don't you have to headspace it afterwards?

Not on the M2A1.

A good and relatively recent upgrade. I'm betting you still have to headspace it in non-combat environments out of an abundance of caution and because old fogeys from before the upgrade write the safety regs.

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zoux posted:

What level are machine guns at in the modern US military? I know that you have SAWs at the platoon (?) level, but where are the M2 gunners, and where and how are they deployed?

People who know infantry have already posted, but basically any old vehicle is the wildcard of "that poo poo might have an M2/M240 on it" when it comes to the US military. And SAWs get issued to POG units.

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I remember seeing an MP pitch as a cadet (branches advertise themselves to cadets), and I'd say at least half of the pitch was "If you are a woman, and you want to kill some people, go MPs, because I've personally killed people in Iraq and combat owns," given by an MP officer who was a woman. That pitch is dated now with infantry opening up to women, but it was pretty funny at the time.

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bewbies posted:

In any case, during that era, "goes real fast" really was the most important performance characteristic. More specifically, it was energy retention.

Doubly so when its mission profile was largely "kill bombers with cannon fire" and not to win dogfights against a bunch of fighters.

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In the US Army it is technically possible to buy generic underwear from on post military clothing bldg.

No one does this.

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Yes, there are health and welfare inspections in the Army. Checking what brand of underwear someone wears is not part of that. Same with socks, except for some regulations about style, color, etc of socks.

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limp_cheese posted:

They made your immediate NCO watch your dick when they did piss tests. When I say watch your dick I mean they literally had to watch the piss come out of your dick into the cup. It was insanely uncomfortable but they had to make sure you weren't cheating. It also meant every NCO saw the dicks of their immediate subordinates. This includes the LT and First Sergeant who had to watch each other's dicks. That means as you get promoted you are forced to stare at dicks...

I hate to break it to you, but that setup was not just unusual, it's expressly against army regulation.

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The dick looking is authorized. Having the immediate supervisor do it every time is a great way for an NCO and subordinate to do lines together and never get caught or to exact favors.

Doubly so for LT and 1SG or LT and LT watching each other.

It's not a hard and fast rule, but units I've been in have discouraged putting direct leader in charge of watching their own squad to avoid collusion or awkwardness.

I've very rarely had units get super serious about staring directly at your dick the entire time, save special missions and predeployment.

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spectralent posted:

Is this like "If you were around when there was some fighting but not in much risk and dropped a radio somewhere like a dumbass you have to get it after" or is it like "if you are presently running away from artillery trying to erase your grid reference and you get something knocked out of your hands the procedure-correct thing to do is get it back first"? Because if it's the second, christ.

That is probably entirely dependent on how dickish your chain of command wants to be and what the general climate is. If you're at war with Russia and a tank gets nuked by a round, you're probably not going to ensure the radios are destroyed. If you get ambushed by 3 hit-and-run Taliban and use that to say you lost all your kit, probably a bad idea.

I like this video where they realize, right after withdrawing to a defensible position, that they left their grenade launcher up against their previous point of fire so a guy has to go back and get it. Another highlight from earlier in this video, prior to my timestamp, is a guy who takes cover in some brush then starts shouting about the bees that are stinging him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YSVFJjvNDU&t=285s

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Squalid posted:

Ah on the subject of firing generals for not respecting the President, has anyone else seen War Machine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIO_BFCf8fU

I thought over all it was a pretty gentle satire of the American military and officers. However one reviewer in the Washington Post found it too hard on the McChrystal stand-in, but had to admit his military friend liked it.


I mean compared to other satirical characters like Robert Duvall's Lt. Colonel Kilgore from Apocalypse Now, Glenn McMahon is very sympathetic, it's just that he suffers from that great classical heroic flaw, hubris. Still it seems the film ruffled a lot of feathers.

I'm only about a half hour into it and I can totally see why film critics gave it meh/bad reviews but also why military folk love this poo poo. Talk about catering to an audience, and not a military audience eager for a dick-jerkin' good time of heroism and explosions.

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limp_cheese posted:



These are brats. They're basically bratwurst. They are big in the midwest and was a german food that Americans bastardized. Throw them on a grill for a while, put them in a bun with ketchep, and bam.

Putting ketchup on encased meats is sacrilege.



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david_a posted:

I don't think showing a picture of a Chicago dog really backs up your notion of encased meats having Very Specific Righteous and True Toppings. I kinda like those things from the novelty of throwing the kitchen sink on a hotdog but LOL at the notion that ketchup is somehow less pure than an entire pickle spear or slices of whole tomato.

Neither of those are a Chicago Dog though.

I am an encased meat snob in that while I will eat even the most basic of mass-market hot dogs on a plane-rear end bun, I will NEVER put ketchup on a dog or brat or sausage. I'm the rear end in a top hat who makes a run for fresh ingredients if doing an actual cookout, and if lazily eating at home, I will always have pickle spears, mustard, and celery salt, and sport peppers on hand, at a minimum.

For super simple cookouts where you really can't deal with toppings, the answer is easy. Encased meat, a bun, either totally plane, or with mustard to taste.

For reference, this is a chicago dog:



Another chicago dog:

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bewbies posted:

Does anyone know where the Americanized brat came from? I love them both but it bears very little resemblance to an actual bratwurst.

I've had bratwursts in Germany that are very similar to what Americans consider a brat, but I think the main difference in Germany is that there are so many different regional takes with different filling, cooking methods, and sides than most Americans see from mass-market brats. I'm sure there are plenty of one-off brat recipes in Wisconsin, though. Civilized people still understand that regardless they either get eaten straight, apart from side items, or with mustard.

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When I was in high school, one of my friends was Vietnamese, and his father had been a Huey pilot assigned as an auxiliary of some sort to a US unit for cross-training and "Vietnamization." His English was very out of practice and he didn't talk about the war much, but he did tell one story. He said when first assigned as a co-pilot he would hear US pilots referring to him and some peers as their "sandbags," which he reasonably took to be an insult. One day on an LZ, as they were preparing to lift off, a group of enemy soldiers opened up from some distance with small arms, and a handful of enemy much closer rushed out of cover to get a bead with RPGs. He managed to shoot and kill a couple of enemy soldiers and got the last RPG gunner to go prone such that he couldn't get a shot off before diving back in the chopper and taking off. "I was no sandbag anymore."

The only other thing he really said about the war? He had some very negative things to say about China.

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Famous Anglo-American organization, NATO.

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