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EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/david-brock-hillary-clinton-correct-the-record

quote:

Brock says he first conceived of Correct the Record last summer. "Having left the State Department," Brock told me, "Clinton didn't have the kind of robust operation that one would have if one was holding public office. That's where I saw the need." He wrote a memo predicting "an uptick in political attacks" against Clinton and proposed a rapid-response group to defend her. As it happened, the very next day America Rising, an opposition research outfit founded by former Mitt Romney and Republican National Committee staff, announced a "Stop Hillary 2016" initiative.

Correct the Record's staff (18 and counting) is crammed into a newsroom-style bullpen in the back corner of the offices of American Bridge 21st Century, Brock's super-PAC. "They're always there; they're working around the clock," former Clinton White House adviser Paul Begala says of the crew. "I always tease David that he finds all of these nerd virgins and locks them away in a vault where they never see sunlight or have a drink or get laid. But God bless them!"

The team has been building an exhaustive database of factoids documenting Clinton's career, as well as compiling opposition research on her putative opponents. With Clinton's own press team largely silent, Correct the Record has become the go-to source for reporters seeking pro-Clinton quotes in response to Republican attacks.

Correct the Record is part of a larger shadow campaign that's gearing up for 2016. It includes Ready for Hillary, which is collecting voter data, and Priorities USA, which is raising big money. "For the first time in my adult life, the left has their poo poo together," says Begala, who relies on Correct the Record for talking points when he prepares for cable spots as a Hillary surrogate.

Hillary Clinton has always had a rocky relationship with the press, thanks in part to dealing with conservative smear artists like the young Brock. Correct the Record reflects her prickly approach to media relations. The group spent much of the early summer sending out press releases touting the sales of Clinton's book and tweeting about stories that questioned the numbers. When New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd wrote a column about the lavish speaking fees commanded by Hillary and daughter Chelsea, Correct fired back with a dossier on Dowd, highlighting her own speaking fees.

But this strategy could backfire. Hillary has always struggled with the perception that she is inauthentic and quick to become defensive; being shielded by a group that pounces on every slight could reinforce that image.

But Strider isn't too concerned. The Democrats failed in 2004, he explained, by not building a media operation that could respond to the Swift Boating of John Kerry. He doesn't want Clinton to suffer from the same mistake in 2016. "One thing Nancy Pelosi has said to me is, 'Burns, in politics, if you take a swing at somebody you can rest assured of one thing: They're going to swing back. So why not prepare in advance?'"

How do we combat online campaigns bankrolled by millionaires that use sockpuppets to try and thought-police society on this forum and others?

D&D and C-SPAM threads have devolved to Hillary surrogates shouting talking points at each other and laughing.

The circle if someone who's not a Hillary supporter comes along to a thread usually looks like this:

I support Bernie
Well you support a losing candidate, you sexist bernout
But he had good policies that were better than Hillary's proposals
Did you not see Bernie endorse the true progressive candidate, Hillary Clinton?
Hillary isn't progressive and is going to start a war

And then they start posting pictures of food because they don't have a response.

The mods won't ban them, so how far is this going to go exactly? If Hillary loses, will the two major parties decide that astroturfing doesn't work and abandon it? Or will it get worse?

Can I pay my own army of nerd virgins to say that Lowtax raped and killed a girl in 1990?

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a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

EugeneJ posted:

quote:

Paul Begala says of the crew. "I always tease David that he finds all of these nerd virgins and locks them away in a vault where they never see sunlight or have a drink or get laid. But God bless them!"
Whoa, never thought I'd find a job I'm qualified for :stare:

Jellidelic
Nov 28, 2011

goes all the way to the top imo

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
With seeds of hope, OP.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
*Grass seeds.

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


Something Awful had been infiltrated by Five Guys agents for months, I guess they're all gone now.

Praxis Prion
Apr 11, 2002

The sky is a landfill.
Pillbug
Argue harder faster better stronger

ROFLburger
Jan 12, 2006

EugeneJ posted:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/david-brock-hillary-clinton-correct-the-record


How do we combat online campaigns bankrolled by millionaires that use sockpuppets to try and thought-police society on this forum and others?

D&D and C-SPAM threads have devolved to Hillary surrogates shouting talking points at each other and laughing.

The circle if someone who's not a Hillary supporter comes along to a thread usually looks like this:

I support Bernie
Well you support a losing candidate, you sexist bernout
But he had good policies that were better than Hillary's proposals
Did you not see Bernie endorse the true progressive candidate, Hillary Clinton?
Hillary isn't progressive and is going to start a war

And then they start posting pictures of food because they don't have a response.

The mods won't ban them, so how far is this going to go exactly? If Hillary loses, will the two major parties decide that astroturfing doesn't work and abandon it? Or will it get worse?

Can I pay my own army of nerd virgins to say that Lowtax raped and killed a girl in 1990?

whoa. you need to put a sock in it, buddy

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Did you not see Bernie endorse the true progressive candidate, Hillary Clinton?

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Did U try posting more?

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Bernie died when he lost his balls and then bled to death.

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

The Controlled Bern

Career
Mar 27, 2010
The old Internet died as soon as the Powers That Be bothered to take an interest in it. Now it's just another megaphone.

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013
If they were being paid to post those things it would be less pathetic than the truth that they are not being paid to post those things.

ScratchAndSniff
Sep 28, 2008

This game stinks
"Who... am I?"

"You're a troll! The best we ever had, before you went rogue. And you also happen to be DNC property. Come with me."

*flashback Jason Borne style to intense troll training, ending with the hero refusing to troll a little girl with cancer and running away, getting amnesia*

"No... this can't be true..."

ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD
Jan 21, 2007

personally i like to go out and keep my lawn clean with Roundup

Roundup - keeps lawns weed free for over a decade!

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Anybody who disagrees that the elderly Jew socialist was America's last hope has to be a paid plant, it's the only possible explanation.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

General Dog posted:

Anybody who disagrees that the elderly Jew socialist was America's last hope has to be a paid plant, it's the only possible explanation.

:agreed:

Alpha Mayo
Jan 15, 2007
hi how are you?
there was this racist piece of shit in your av so I fixed it
you're welcome
pay it forward~
The paid shills don't give a poo poo about this dead gay forum. DND is filled with privileged, white upper middle-class IT janitors making a lower 6 figure salary who think they are part of the elite Hillary stands for, even though Hillary considers them garbage-tier.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Meta Ridley posted:

The paid shills don't give a poo poo about this dead gay forum. DND is filled with privileged, white upper middle-class IT janitors making a lower 6 figure salary who think they are part of the elite Hillary stands for, even though Hillary considers them garbage-tier.

fishmech suicide watch

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
there arent paid shills op they are jusrt ppl who think they are doing a good thing by arguing w other ppl rather than educating themselvbes on the topics

and it goes all the way to the top, also

peace

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
lowtax pays me to go poo poo up other forums, I get an extra commission every time I get banned from ebaumsworld


Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Shut down the Internet

It's all poo poo anyway

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
Probably with this revolutionary new counter-astroturfing technology that our organization has developed over the last two years with cutting edge software best practices. Normally we would sell this to enterprise agencies that can afford this premium package but we are willing to offer a reduced price package to the SomethingAwful community out of the goodness of our hearts. Our firm is a Y Combinator-incubated startup headquartered in the heart of San Francisco's mission distrct and we are absolutely thrilled to disrupt the anti-astroturfing industry.

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


We got big fuckin' goons, packing big fuckin' katanas, ready to deal with SHILLARY and FLUMP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdU-x0qMd2s

Jesustheastronaut!
Mar 9, 2014




Lipstick Apathy
If you get mad about politics you're playing right into their hands.

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Jellidelic posted:

goes all the way to the top imo

It was part of lowtax's please bargain for that time the secret service had to deal with SA

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016
being paid to argue on the internet?

Dear Hillary Clinton campaign, I won't vote for your candidate because she is a disingenuous gargoyle woman but I will take money to argue on the internet all day every day.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
I think its very important to get people to cooperate on casting their votes for a candidate that cannot possibly win because that way things will CHANGE and my vote is totally not getting flushed down the toilet and helping the worst party/candidate combination the world has ever known :thumbsup:

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Possibly stop visiting D&D

crabcakes66
May 24, 2012

by exmarx
Nice meltdown.

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
astroturfers, like you, assume the truth is pliable and will crumble under scrutiny, because they've never actually seen the truth.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
How do I get that sweet astroturfer money to argue on the internet 24/7?

My whole life has been training for this job.

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

quote:

"They're always there; they're working around the clock," former Clinton White House adviser Paul Begala says of the crew. "I always tease David that he finds all of these nerd virgins and locks them away in a vault where they never see sunlight or have a drink or get laid. But God bless them! [...] For the first time in my adult life, the left has their poo poo together," says Begala, who relies on Correct the Record for talking points when he prepares for cable spots as a Hillary surrogate.

There is everything wrong with this quote, especially Begala calling someone a nerd virgin.

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
Stop astroturfing for islam, guido. We're on to you.

quote:

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.
pffft whatever shill

EngineerSean
Feb 9, 2004

by zen death robot
how much is the hillary campaign paying you?

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry
If we set a barrier for entry for all forms of social media, let's say $10, it will ensure we only get people really serious about posting

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Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016

Yeah who the gently caress needs flowcharts and poo poo.

I'm that guy from twister that drops some dirt out of his hand and immediately knows everything about a tornado that hasn't formed yet miles away, just with shitposting.

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