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Given the ending of Nemesis Games, however, it might not be an alien species exactly.
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A human heart posted:lol Ty Franck began developing the world of The Expanse as an idea for a massively multiplayer online role-playing game. After a number of years the idea shifted to become the setting for a tabletop game. Abraham, who had already written several books on his own at this point, noticed the depth of the world that Franck had created and thought they should make a book series out of it: "People who write books don't do this much research." I've heard it wasn't a tabletop game, not initially. It was a play-by-post online RP game with Holden, Amos, Alex, Naomi and Shed all being player characters.
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mossyfisk posted:I never understood how Belters could ever have an economy in this setting. Everything they do is based around cargo shipping, yet they suck at it. Why would you give your shipping contract to belters who have to burn at 0.5G or whatever, when you could get an Earther crew who can go at 1.2G? Belters can burn at 1.2G, they just can't live for extended periods. There's also the drugs and such.
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Eiba posted:I don't know if that's a weird reaction, or a plausibly mundane one. I think it is plausible. I mean, belters are their own culture. They have their own language and even look different, being flat out physiologically unsuited to live on a gravity well. Combine that, with the fact that such a level of destruction is just unfathomable to most people then, yeah, I think it's reasonable that so many people don't really care.
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I'm digging the first point. Like, Marko's grand plan was basically: 1. Throw rocks at Earth. 2. ????? 3. Belter supremacy w/ magical self-sustaining economy. He got in a good apocalyptic sucker punch and that's it. Marko is lame, yes. The book spends a lot of time having various characters come to terms with the fact that Marco had no plans and was preoccupied with his lover's new boyfriend. He had goals and no real care to actually achieving them.
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Jew it to it! posted:You contribute nothing to this thread and many others in The Book Barn. I contributed to your posting by replying, and as a result I am an idiot. But seriously, dude, do you really get any satisfaction by making GBS threads up the Expansion, Sci Fi, Warhammer 40k and more threads? Lord, save me from Lum avatars. I don't know what this is but I'm quoting it.
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Jan 6, 2017 08:41
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Pretty sure they mention that Earth's fleet is too busy covering the rest of the planet from rocks.
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Jan 10, 2017 02:05
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I think CB would probably get a short arc, a few episodes to half a season, maybe. AG was the first one of the series I read, because I didn't notice a big 3 on the spine, and I loved it.
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Mar 6, 2017 23:32
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If the Caliban's War season doesn't end on... Holden, alone in his room. Camera pans out, slowly, dramatic sting builds as a blue firefly flitters onto screen. Dramatic sting crescendo as a stupid old hat and figure is silhouetted just out of frame... MILLER: We need to talk. Smash cut to black. Roll credits. ...I'm going to be pissed.
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Mar 7, 2017 11:04
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No Amos demonstrating the benefits of canned chicken to someone? 
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Arcsquad12 posted:So I've started Caliban's War. Awfully similar setup to hostilities as Leviathan Wakes. One thing I'm really appreciating so far is that as much as the earth/Martian conflicts are caused by a third party, that doesn't immediately end the hostilities between the planets once the culprits are caught. Once a war starts it can be very hard to end and the fact that The Expanse books address this is very refreshing. That being said, one is an anomaly, two is a trend, so I am worried that each book might start to follow a pattern of "evil experiment by dumbasses starts a war, Holden and friends get involved and save the universe" They do, unfortunately. All six books follow that exact format.
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May 21, 2017 01:46
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Medlar posted:Show talk: 
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Well, yeah. Remember what the opening shots of his 'revolution' were?
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Not sure about that bit of info but I've loved the other books so I'm sure it's okay. But still...
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ZombieLenin posted:Yeah... I will probably still buy it, but my interest level just dropped significantly. It feels like a weird choice. Thirty years is a lot of time and I'd rather have seen the intervening time as opposed to being told about it. Surely a lot of things happened in those three decades.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Considering that the most recent book left off at the same cliffhanger that the one before it did (what's eating the ships in the gates, unless I'm remembering things wrong), dropping that and jumping ahead 30 years is...an extremely bold choice. Yeah. My first thought is 'what the heck happened' given that it seemed like they had a pretty good idea of what was happening if not exactly why at the end of the last book. Did nothing happen with it for thirty years? Why? It feels like it is edging closer to the bad sort of 'what's going on here' questions. I'm struggling to think of a timeskip in a series I've ever enjoyed. Maybe Season 2 Battlestar? But that was two years, not thirty. Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Sarern posted:Just finished it. There were several surprises, but I was most surprised to find out that (spoilers for next book): Everyone's favorite horny doctor will probably be back. I was nervous about the thirty year timeskip, but it ended up working for me. GRRM should have tried a time jump instead of continually expanding interim books. I've heard that a character is killed during the timeskip. Specifically, Clarissa. Is that true?
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Sarern posted:sent you a PM answering your question. It's still early days, I accidentally spoil things for myself all the time so I'd rather not post that yet. Instead, let's talk about the very tender sex scene between Amos and Holden. 
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I am not a fan of this timeskip. Like, I'm up to Chapter 5 and it's just there in the back of my head the whole time.
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acumen posted:I thought Holden was in his mid 20s when he got kicked out, then another 6-8 years had passed between LW and BA, putting him in his 60s here. You're right though, timeline has always been pretty nebulous - what year is it even in PR? I'm pretty sure the Expanse books have never named a specific year. I think the TV series has, however.
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And really, could it be possible for one Great Man to direct the future of humanity if he had access to something like the protomolecule? And, if so, wouldn't that basically be horrific?
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Eiba posted:I can understand someone feeling the bullshit death battleship defeating the combined fleet of all humanity is something outside the frame of what they're interested in. I'm almost there myself. Like, maybe that's not what you signed up for when you started the Expanse and that's a fine thing to be disappointed by. I'm at Chapter 15 or thereabouts and that's the feeling I'm getting. I think I'll be happy with the series finishing at book #9. The timeskip still gets under my skin. For example, on one hand, I like that Chrisjen wasn't killed off in the interim. On the other... it's been thirty years. Did any character really change at all during the jump, beyond getting promoted or being Clarissa?
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Finished this one. It grew on me by the end and I think I like it more than Nemesis Games but not as much as Babylon's Ashes. A few things didn't feel right to me, such as the character death towards the end, but I want to see where they're going with the black and white bullets and Duterte such. I do think if they can hold to nine books and finish up they'll have a nice consistent series that never truly got bad.
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Professor Shark posted:So, if the show gets there, who are they going to drop: Marco or Duarte? I can't see them going with the timeskip, much less expanding the series out that widely. I have a feeling the series will cap off with Marco Inaros and his whole thing and maybe the last episode might be a Babylon 5-esque 'twenty/thirty years later' thing.
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Geisladisk posted:At the end of Perseopolis Rising, where Holden meets Duarte and exclaims that he's "using that poo poo on himself", and Duarte responds with something along the lines that most people don't notice but he's changed physically, was that ever elaborated on? How has he changed? How is it not noticeable to most people, but Holden notices? Are the Laconians just too terrified/awed/respectful of their Immortal Psychic Space Hitler to mention that his eyes are loving glowing or something? I want to say there's this mention maybe in the first Singh chapter of something that's off with Duarte but I'm not sure.
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Read it. It has some really good bits. It's an interesting change of pace. And even if it is the weakest novel in the series I feel it's still decent.
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CB feels like AG in places. What I mean is, I think when writing AG they got extended into four books. Then, writing CB, they got extended to six and then nine. It felt like stories that were heading towards an end but then they twist into a continuation. For example, I thought Amos (CB spoilers) was absolutely going to die in that shootout towards the end. Then he doesn't. There were a few other moments like that. I feel Books 5 and onwards have benefited from knowing they have four books in total to tell the rest of the story.
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I'm pretty sure every sex scene in the Expanse is just a 'fade to black' in the books, excepting maybe Timmy and his partner in The Churn?
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tiamat's wrath good title. sounds ominous!
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Alcon's planning on shopping it around, though. Let's not pretend that Syfy was any good for this show with all their region locking and such.
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THE BEATWEAVER posted:Sometime around book 4 I realized that this series was some seriously bullshit bland-as-gently caress writing filled with deus-ex solutions to plot hole problems and characters written thinner than a goddamn cereal box. Now I'm on book five and things are decidedly not improving. sir i only asked you if you wanted fries with your order
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Persepolis Rising is definitely better than Babylon's Ashes. The series is beginning to show its age, however. But providing Books 8 and 9 don't go to absolute badness, it's going to be a very solid series.
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THE BEATWEAVER posted:When I found out this series was originally written as an MMO framework the wierd pacing, bad plot after book two, and comically cardboard villains suddenly all made perfect sense. Wasn't it a play-by-post forum game? Shed was a player character who had to leave, so he was GM killed? Then it was made into an MMO framework?
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dropkickpikachu posted:I just finished marathoning all 7 extant books and now i am left every night opening my kindle expecting to read more new Rocinante adventures but not being able to, like a tongue probing the empty place where a pulled tooth was once anchored. gonna be on the lookout for it in the next book in... november?
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aw dang i've been rereading the series and, wow, amos feels like a completely different character in book 1 to how he develops. it definitely feels like they hadn't nailed him down completely just yet.
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:So I have started reading the books and have a question: Yes, and Book 5 is probably the best in the series so far. Book 4 is the low point, really.
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Collateral posted:I thought they were done several months ago, have they spent that time rolling it in glitter? yes when the publisher pushed the date back, they said they'd give them some extra editing time
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Leviathan Wakes clearly draws a fair bit of inspiration from Firefly. Amos, especially, comes off more as a Jayne type of character than who he quickly becomes in Caliban's War.
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