Platystemon posted:

I just assumed that waste recyclers were really efficient.

If you can throw leftovers in a chute and get back 99% of the nutrients, it’s not a big deal.

Wxhode posted:

2) I mostly like it, but the classical naming conventions and consistent associated Deep Meaning in the books are a bit much. Ok, I get it, Laconia System is the new Spartans. And they're from Mars and have the right mindset, so it's forgivable. But Julie Andromeda Mao is eaten by the protomolecule like her mythological namesake was chained to the rock for the Clash of the Titan's style monster to eat? Clarissa Melpomene Mao is tragic and has a good singing voice? Praxidike Meng sets out on a mission for justice/revenge? Anna's feel good colony is named Eudoxia? Of course it is. Ilus was going for some sort of Trojan thing, I guess. The death slugs were the horse? Ok, maybe they don't all make sense or lead to destined plot paths. But too many of them do.

The Muffinlord posted:

Yeah, that's why the second slowdown is so catastrophic: everyone and everything inside the ships still has inertia once the speed limit drops to a walking pace.

Collateral posted:

Isn't Miller supposed to be a washed up, late middle aged and severely depressed in the books? His nose would be really red, and his eyes yellow + bloodshot due to the advanced alcoholic liver disease that is heavily implied.

Thomas Jane is a good Miller, but he is nothing like book Miller. At any rate, terrifying machine of the old gods possessed by the spirit of Miller is the best version + voiced by TJ? Yes please.

Mars4523 posted:

Also, the numbers given for Bobbie's armor's main gun would make it laughably weak. 1000 m/s muzzle velocity for a mini gun would be shooting rounds that are under half the diameter of an M16's 5.56mm at an only slightly higher muzzle velocity.

There's actually a trope for Sci fi writers screwing up units of measurement. The writers are generally pretty good with those details, so I'm guessing those bits just slipped by editing.

bitprophet posted:

Yup! It's awesome. Still waiting for (most of) the rest of the genre to catch up.

Number Ten Cocks posted:

Belter porn must be really bad.

xiansi posted:

Charles Stross' Saturn's Children (do not judge this by its cover!)

Baloogan posted:

if there is time fuckery imo its holden whos gonna send the original protomolcule probe to earth to hit pheobe or whatever

Lord Hydronium posted:

quote:

She is a thin-faced woman with a crisp, but unplaceable accent.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Nah, I like that they keep arguing over it. I got a chuckle out of Elias Toufexis being a grammar nazi on the correct pronunciation of Anubis, and then Amos just gives him a look and he shuts up.

Holden is a bit underwhelming for me, mostly because the guy playing him reminds me of Jay Baruchel too much if Baruchel tried to sound hardcore.

The guy playing Alex is the best, though.

Syzygy Stardust posted:

Holden's lameness is canon in the books, everyone treats him as a well-intentioned retard who causes disaster that they nevertheless have to deal with or think they can use as a pawn because surely no one can screw up that consistently.

jng2058 posted:

Especially since he had that health scare a while back, I've pretty much resigned myself to a Jordan WoT scenario where he dies or retires and someone else finishes it up from his notes. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, of course, but it feels like the most likely scenario at this point.

TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

I think the problem is, what exactly could they have done? You can't send a giant force through the gates without them getting eaten, and it's suicide to send ships through one by one when Laconia has demonstrated they have guns pointed at the other end that they're all too willing to use. They weren't Freehold; they had a third of the Martian navy in the system.

Personally my biggest problem was Avasarala being present for all the poo poo going down. Not that she's still alive, because it's the future so whatever, but what the gently caress was she doing on one of the void cities in the first place? She always has said that she loathes space travel. I mean, I was happy that she was still there to drop f-bombs everywhere, but her showing up out of nowhere felt more than a little contrived.

bitprophet posted:

Put me down in the "sure, it was the weakest book, but that's kinda relative and it was still a lot of fun to read & fleshed out the universe in interesting ways" camp. For example, I wouldn't recommend any new readers skip it, it's absolutely not that bad. As long as someone goes in knowing that it's a bit of a tonal departure, I don't see why they'd be crazy disappointed.

NowonSA posted:

I liked the Laconian perspective more than I probably should have. You certainly see their immoral and harsh practices and cult of personality at work, but you also got the sense that it actually wouldn't be all that bad to be under their rule if you were just willing to play ball, which seems like a tricky balancing act that I thought the writers handled well.

Eiba posted:

...

Wait a minute. Hear me out.

Eternal god-queen Avasarala?

The technology exists.

nessin posted:

Is the show actually worth watching if you've read the books? I noticed the first two seasons are on Prime streaming and thought I might watch it.

ATP_Power posted:

I feel like it's been recommended before in this thread, but if you enjoy explorations of alien thought, Peter Watts' Blindsight is worth checking out. (Along with the rest of his works imo)

Imagine you're the protomolecule.

sebmojo posted:

Ehhhhh it a little bit can be. Banks likes his torture.

plainswalker75 posted:

I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop regarding the disappearance of Medina station; I feel like Saba is too rad a character to just get killed off with such little fanfare or a POV.

CLAM DOWN posted:

I'm going to miss the Expanse once they close out the series. It's been a hell of a journey.

goatsestretchgoals posted:

Overall yeah but am I the only one who cringes when Drummer opens her mouth?

Phobophilia posted:

Man Ashford was so great. This skinny, horrifically burnt old man that constantly twitches and speaks an incomprehensible accent turns out to be a moral cornerstone.

I can barely remember book Ashford, I only know him as a strawman figure.


The thing that strikes me is that parents still hold babies by the back of their heads, I can't help but suspect that would be slightly anachronistic.

Toast Museum posted:

He's an extremely green officer who's put in command of the Behemoth for political reasons and immediately cracks under pressure.