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The Saddest Rhino posted:if they actually conduct the EDK on the MILFs and Abu Sayaaf maybe even Malaysia will start to like Duterte (we lose so much tourism money due to the MILFs constantly kidnapping/executing people from the Sipadan islands, and the Malaysian police - especially the IGP - is known for being less than useless) Duerte might've actually gotten international support if he decided to scapegoat MILFs and other potential Muslim extremists. Sure, the UN might've still wagged the finger at him, but US conservatives, potentially Israel and other groups might've thrown the Philippines a bone of support.
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Ytlaya posted:Given that the drug situation is not actually nearly as severe as Duterte portrays it, why exactly is Duterte so incredibly popular? I mean, Trump certainly has a significant support base in the US, but nothing near the almost ubiquitous support Duterte seems to have. Drug use and drug dealing is super vilified in east Asia so setting a platform based on eliminating it is never not good. Tying societal ills like corruption (probably even more common than drugs) to it is just a "logical" extension of that. This is also compounded with a lack of drug education.
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The FPTP thing in the Philippines is pretty maddening too all things considered. The whole government structure was copied wholesale from the US at the time iirc with little consideration as to how and why those particular things were put into place. With an essentially cemented two party system, FPTP is no different than most other forms of voting, but with more than two very large political organizations at play, FPTP becomes a nightmarish thing particularly because it seems there's no galvanizing reason to merge parties beyond "gently caress that guy/party" and once that's done, the whole coalition/makeshift party breaks apart because of corruption and favoritism or the fear of it happening to them, putting all of the people from one of the pre-merged parties into positions of power and all of the others told to hit the bricks.
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Aug 28, 2016 02:36
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Less than 40% voted for Duerte. Majority my rear end. Even in US elections we can at least get within spitting distance of a winner having 50% (barring Electoral college shenanigans and third party vote splitting). Duerte got a plurality, but even 30% would've given him the same amount of power.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Plus, let's face it, an intervention by the US, China, or Russia in the Philippines could still end up making things worse. It could make things worse, or it could make a clean slate to try something new that actually works like in Nicaragua. Idk why Russia is in that list. Australia or South Korea would be more likely to try and exercise some political muscle to control the Philippines. Japan might too if not for the fact there's probably still a significant of sore wounds from WW2.
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Schubalts posted:Muslims, obviously. There's a large enough population of them that calling out Muslims as a whole might be politically (and obviously personally) dangerous.
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Sex workers and associate individuals might actually be a decent enough target however. Not by someone like Duerte, mind, but someone who campaigns off of a strong morality base.
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UrbicaMortis posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37172002 I remember one of the responses to this was to give the reporter a raise or something because they could find one of these so called secret killers and that the reporter was likely full of poo poo. It's clear that the reporter probably isn't making things up unless the person they interviewed is also making things up. Sheng-ji Yang posted:uh are you seriously using Nicaragua as a positive example of American/Western intervention? I won't speak on the justification on that and the US was definitely in the wrong on it, but at the very least, from those remains a more stable and healthier state came out of it compared to other countries that we've intervened in. It's definitely also possible for that to happen from an internal effort, but with active resisting forces in place, it makes change harder.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:The reason why Sandinista Nicaragua was unstable and unhealthy was because of it being undermined and sabotaged at every point by the United States. Irregardless Nicaraguans just ended up re-electing Ortega into power, who is now more powerful than he ever was in the 80s I haven't really looked into Nicaragua all that much fwiw, so I'll defer to your judgement there regarding Ortega and he government there. The most I've read up on was a recent article and an NPR story concerning how Nicaragua's drug problems are far less worse compared to surrounding countries due to implementing rehabilitation and mentoring programs to prevent children and teens from joining gangs via ex-gang members and other diversion techniques that tough on crime types would dismiss for being too weak on criminals.
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My dictatorship is the only good dictatorship
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My dad is traveling to the Philippines at the end of the month. At least he's a Duerte supporter
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Wizchine posted:I was talking a bit about the stuff going with a couple of co-workers - none of us is Filipino by the way. One of them was saying something along the lines of the above, like "yeah, it wouldn't be surprising if the people at the top were all big players in the drug trade because that's how it works where I came from. She's probably dirty as hell." He's from Honduras. At first I assumed you meant Duerte was probably dirty until I saw "She" and felt disappointed.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:So is Duterte trying to make The Philippians a pariah state,(hell even a rogue nation) because it sounds like its headed that way fast. I mean the dude sounds like he is readying the military for a full power grab. I mean, what happens if that happens? It largely depends on who's still willing to trade with them. China probably would and even start supplying weapons to sweeten the deal if it meant widening its sphere of influence against Japan and the US. If Duerte insults China and the Chinese as well, it might be a much bigger problem for the Philippines.
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My dad's leaving for the Philippines on Tuesday. Where's Baclaran on the scale of "pile of tin roofed targets for anti-drug task forces" and "so loving rich that if a single anti-drug task force person even thinks about making a raid here, they'll be dead within the day"? That's where my dad grew up and I'm sure he'll return there to see if/how it's changed in the last few years. My brother also resides in the Philippines, but he's probably in a better situation US military disability checks being what they are so I assume that neighborhood is relatively safer.
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gradenko_2000 posted:If "pile of tin roofed targets for anti-drug task forces" is a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10, Baclaran is about a 4. It's on the poorer side of Manila's neighborhoods and lies astride a large slum area that gets regularly raided by the police, but on the other hand it's also very heavily trafficked as it is a major transportation hub. Your dad is probably going to be most in danger from pickpockets and petty thieves than anything else. Tell him to watch all his belongings closely and stay out of alleyways. Oh thieves and pickpockets? Is that all? That's not a big deal then. I have seen the slum nearby it, and it is bad. There's also the mosque that sits in an overgrown field opposite one of the major roads next to Baclaran. Funnily enough, not too far from them are a bunch of casinos. Also, a relatively short taxi ride away is the Mall of Asia (one of the biggest malls in the world). My dad and aunt told me stories of how they used to go to the shore the mall is now built on to pick up fish and stuff when the tide got really low.
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sincx posted:Even if Duterte is serious about it (and he isn't, this is just to gain leverage against the US), I doubt China would want to or is able to give enough of anything of note to the Philippines. I'd hardly call NK a Chinese vassal. If it was a vassal, it'd be doing a lot more for China and vice versa. Ytlaya posted:Someone in this thread mentioning Mall Asia or something reminded me of this Filipina girl I chatted with on AIM when I was 13/14 way back in the late 90's. I remember she would tell me about how the Philippines had amazing, giant malls. Malls so big that they made malls in the US look tiny. I remember being very fascinated by those malls. Filipino malls are fuckhuge, rivaled only by the Chinese in their size. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_shopping_malls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_shopping_malls_in_the_Philippines
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Someone just has to trick him into saying he supports Taiwan's sovereignty and then Boom! bye-bye China support.
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's a combination of: East Asia as a whole is basically 100% regressive when it comes to drugs. Even developed countries like Japan and South Korea still have fairly regressive views when it comes to drug users and drug use. Part of this is due to overwhelming US propaganda regarding illicit drug use during the cold war with none of the counter culture influences that allowed for more progressive views to push back.
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Is the Philippines in the TPP? Is it too late to cut them out of it?
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GlassEye-Boy posted:You base this statement off of what? Whatever else maybe be wrong with China the HSR system is very nice and of great quality (lol at least the trains run on time). Chinese engineering is fast and relatively good. They just cut corners when it comes to safety or QC.
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rscott posted:idk man, we're working on some poo poo for the C919 and their engineers can't seem to do simple poo poo like properly dimension a drawing or proper revision control The Chinese can't QC their engineers too
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poo poo, that idea about a vape business for my brother to start in the Philippines might be even better than me and my dad thought
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Tricky D posted:According to the article, e-cigs are also covered under the ban. RIP my brother then
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Ersatz posted:Traditionally, Vietnam hates China more than the US. And the average American doesn't care anymore. Vietnam hates the French more than the US and that was even further back.
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CommieGIR posted:You're giving him way too much credit, and his current legacy is: He's an idiot that can't figure out what side of the street he wants to play ball on. Nah, he's an idiot that wants to play on both sides of the street and thinks he's clever enough to pull it off
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keevo posted:House maids And nurses
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gradenko_2000 posted:I kept telling my fiancee we were going to try to move to America next year once things had settled down after the wedding. Try Canada
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I've got a dumb Duterte loving relative constantly posting Duterte memes but I don't know enough about Filipino history to get what this is about or recognize the other people in the picture. Wait I know one of them is Ferdinand Marcos...what does he or Duterte have to do with those specific priests? What is this all about? Isn't one of the dudes a screencap from a movie or something? It looks like it The top pair looks like Jose Rizal and a movie depiction of some priest
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Argue posted:No need to leak them, Duterte announced them (of course). The "under Philippine jurisdiction" thing might also mean that any physical evidence gathered might be put into the hands of the Philippines for "safekeeping" and other such things that would likely aid in undermining the investiagtion.
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Fojar38 posted:He's been saying this for like half a year now He also says he hopes to get along with Trump since they're "birds of a feather."
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Grouchio posted:The perfect way to end Duterte would be to somehow inject him with Krokodil, and watch as his skin slowly melts away. I feel like proper poetic justice would be for him to be arrested or shot by his own anti-drug task force while being strung out on Fentanyl after it's revealed he was actually abusing it and addicted to it.
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Takoluka posted:How does someone so openly commit these heinous acts and get away with it? I mean, I'm sure we're not going to do anything about it, because AMERICA FIRST, but is there NOTHING that can be done by anyone to stop something like international citizen murder and cover-up, where the ashes don't even get to come back to the family? Given that it was South Korean national, it'll largely depend on what SK does in this specific case. However, for any sort of larger change, America and China are the ones largely holding the cards for the Philippines so if neither of them do anything, the Philippines can essentially do as it pleases.
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Remind me again why rape, plunder and treason have been excluded from the death penalty bill? Is it because said people voting on it would be the most likely to be affected or something?
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Grouchio posted:What kinds of cuisine do you guys have? It's somehow unfair that we have only Thai restaurants everywhere and not other Southeast Asian diners. Especially since the US owned the Philippines for 40 years so you'd think that their cuisine would transfer over here. Over to the US? I've seen it occasionally in Florida. Largely around Jacksonville. That's likely due to the Navy base. I've seen Vietnamese places in just about every city though.
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ihatepants posted:So what do I need to understand about Filipino culture before I can pass judgement on something like this? I always found it kind of off putting that Filipinos seem to always expect someone to clean up after them (for example, just look at a food court at the mall in the Philippines compared to one in the US) and, at times, seem to have no idea how to be independent. It's a form of cultural conditioning. The types who can afford to go to the mall, generally can afford some sort of housekeeper or have some relative or friend with one and imitate their habits of leaving poo poo lying around for someone else to pick up. Not everyone has it, but a good number do. I haven't been to the Philippines in a while so I'm not at all up to date on how Filipino culture is with regards to class, but in my experience, if the family could afford a house, they could generally also afford some sort of live-in maid. How they were treated is basically up to the people who hired them. At best, the person becomes part of the family. Yes, they're still expected to take care of certain things and they're paid for their services in addition to room and board, but it's almost no different from having a family member who really likes to clean and cook. At worst...yeah. It's a sort of relationship that was more common when servants were a more normal part of life for the upper or even upper middle class.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I want to make it absolutely clear that the story as Tizon presents it absolutely does make out Pulido as a slave. There's no two ways about it, and even bringing her to the United States is something I would consider to be human trafficking. Bolding mine. That's the real crux of the matter, I think. If they could have the leverage to still have food, money and shelter if they felt like conditions weren't good, that'd be one thing, but generally the maids don't really have much ability to operate independently. The difference with chattel slavery and this sort is that the power dynamics are skewed even further. It's just different degrees of the same "rife with abuse potential" relationship. Law enforcement in everything is fairly lax in the Philippines (drug laws only the exception in all classes but the upper) so that's nothing new. But it's at least some effort. The other thing is that Filipino pride is really pig headed and dumb.
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CrosspostingNonsense posted:https://twitter.com/JEMINSE0K/status/866977792444977153 Correction: The city has not been razed, but there are firefights and a hospital has been captured.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Ahahahahahahahahahahaha Out of many world leaders, this might be a sound tactic. Out of Duterte, this screams either "Trap" or "I'm desperate"
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Grouchio posted:Why are the Philippines so susceptible to dictatorships anyways? (like, I dunno, most of Latin America?) Developing nations are generally more susceptible to corruption due to money doing a lot more there compared to more developed countries like China or America (where some of that money might come from). Lower education rates also make a public that's a bit more susceptible to demagoguery or merely following public or media opinion without as much critical thought. Then there's desperation for change and uplifting which also plays into it given the general state of affairs. With Latin American countries (this is just spitballing), there's a bit more trust in general authority due to its adherence to Catholicism. It's generally implied that, to be a good Catholic, you have to listen to your priest and the Church which then mentally extends to any sort of authority and its structure.
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