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quote:Duterte’s methods may be bloodier than those typically employed by American prohibitionists, but his logic is similar, casting peaceful transactions—the exchange of money for psychoactive substances—as acts of aggression that pose an existential threat to the nation. This is war, after all, so there is no room for legal niceties. quote:As far as William J. Bennett is concerned, that’s a shame. Back in 1989, when he was running the Office of National Drug Control Policy under Clinton’s predecessor, Bennett said “there’s no moral problem” with beheading drug dealers—the preferred method in Saudi Arabia. Although beheading might be legally problematic, he said on Larry King Live, it would be “morally proportional to the nature of the offense.” And Bennett ought to know, since he has a Ph.D. in philosophy. “I used to teach ethics,” he told Larry King. “Trust me.” The following year, Los Angeles Police Chief Daryl Gates took Bennett’s logic a step further, telling a Senate committee that casual drug users “ought to be taken out and shot” as traitors in the war on drugs. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2016/08/25/rodrigo-dutertes-murderous-war-on-drugs-follows-american-logic/#4ce13fb442b0 I simply cannot grasp the logic of prohibitionists. Sell drugs to someone who ends up abusing that drug and they want the 'dealer' to go to jail or face corporal punishment. Sell a hot rod to a kid who ends up abusing his horsepower and wraps himself around a tree and 'the drat rev head got what was coming to him!' KingEup fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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I'd love to hear Duterte explain what the difference between a drug and a non-drug is because most prohibitionists are scientifically illiterate.
KingEup fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Wizchine posted:if for some reason it is successful If immutable market forces can be suspended by Presidential decree then anything is possible.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2016 23:35 |
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Chomskyan posted:So did Duterte call Obama a son of a whore or not? Annoying people (Duterte supporters) on Facebook are claiming it wasn't directed at Obama or something Well it's kinda caught on video and he has apologized for doing so... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/06/son-of-a-whore-was-not-meant-to-be-personal-duterte-tells-obama I work on a dementia ward and I'm starting to think this guy has some frontal lobe disorder, like as in he actually can't help but say what he thinks no matter how offensive. That would also explain his tendency to make sexual comments at inappropriate times or situations like: http://www.smh.com.au/world/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-condemned-for-comments-on-rape-of-australian-missionary-20160417-go8j7b.html KingEup fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:
It's not just that, look at the way he stands at the lectern in the video and his strange body posturing, tics etc. Classic signs of frontal lobe problems.
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This was published a few years back and seems to be eerily prescient and applicable to the state of affairs in the Philippines:quote:But while governments all use the idiom of human rights, they use it to make radically different arguments about how countries should behave. China cites “the right to development” to explain why the Chinese government gives priority to economic growth over political liberalisation. Many countries cite the “right to security,” a catch-all idea that protection from crime justifies harsh enforcement methods. Vladimir Putin cited the rights of ethnic minorities in Ukraine in order to justify his military intervention there, just as the United States cited Saddam Hussein’s suppression of human rights in order to build support for the Iraq war. Certain Islamic countries cite the right to religious freedom in order to explain why women must be subordinated, arguing that women must play the role set out for them in Islamic law. The right of “self‑determination” can be invoked to convert foreign pressure against a human-rights violating country into a violation of that country’s right to determine its destiny. The language of rights, untethered to specific legal interpretations, is too spongy to prevent governments from committing abuses and can easily be used to clothe illiberal agendas in words soothing to the western ear.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2016 23:23 |
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Do the news media not realise that Duterte has already admitted to murdering people?
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2016 22:51 |
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Ersatz posted:is being accused of having personally killed people in the past? This goes beyond accusations, he has admitted to personally murdering people "about 3" on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tebans1dOYo
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2016 23:50 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/583282/news/nation/duterte-willing-to-unleash-a-hitler-on-phl-criminals He is just taking things to the logical endpoint. Has been predicted for decades: quote:Independent researcher Miller continues the argument he began in The Case for Legalizing Drugs (LJ 4/15/91). Drawing on his latest book, Nazi Justiz (Praeger, 1995), he makes an extended analogy between Germany repressing the Jews and America repressing drug users. In chapters on identification, ostracism, confiscation, concentration, and annihilation, he shows that democracy, privacy, and family life can be lost in our society just as they were when these policies were applied to the Jews. Because of "bureaucratic thrust," the criminalization aimed at one group consumes the entire society. In contrast, Miller thinks drug use is normal and should be regarded as such; he marshals convincing evidence that it can be mature and responsible. If drugs are abused, he does not think criminalization or medical force are solutions, any more than they would be solutions to unemployment. Although many will find Miller's case overstated, it is thoughtful and thought-provoking
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blackguy32 posted:I thought it was just drug dealers he was killing but apparently he means to kill basically everyone using drugs. Only the ones they call 'illegal drugs'.
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Ytlaya posted:No you see stimulants are somehow inherently more sinful than opiates. It's more a case fentanyl not havng any associated stigma. The average drug warrior's knowledge is based exclusively on stereotypes and whatever they've seen at the movies. The average drug warrior would have absolutely no knowledge of how substances interact with the CNS. Heroin is heroin. It's evil. I know I've seen it. Fentanyl is... I don't know, what do you mean it's an opioid just like heroin!? Yes, but it isn't heroin and my doctor gave it to me so how can it be evil like heroin? Heroin is what junkies use and I ain't one of them. Look at me do I look like I'm taking heroin to you? *throws me from the helicopter* KingEup fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Dec 31, 2016 |
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chird posted:Every time he does something more damaging I think "oh well, that must be the tipping point", but no-one actually does anything What are you expecting people to do about their murderous leader?
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Argue posted:HEY GUYS WHO'S EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY?? Oh cool the Australian Prime Minister too.
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