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Fat people complaining about genetics making them fat is like brunettes complaining about genetics making them brunettes. While it is technically true that some people can be blond without doing any work, if you really want to be blond, you can be. Yes, you will have to continually fight your body's natural tendency to be a brunette, but if being blond is important to you, is it really that big of a deal getting a dye job every now and then?
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ElGroucho posted:Is self-control genetic or what ask the 60% of men or 45% of women who cheat on their spouses
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Aug 31, 2016 10:05
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Quote-Unquote posted:I really hate the term 'processed food' because it is meaningless did you know that if you breathe pure oxygen, you'll die?
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Aug 31, 2016 10:06
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waitwhatno posted:Walking is actually fun. If I have the time I walk everywhere, instead of taking the bike, bus or subway. Everyone who doesn't walk is missing out on life. I agree down with 8-hour work days
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Aug 31, 2016 16:49
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Rakosi posted:How can any of these things make you fat if you burn more calories than you eat, without breaking the laws of thermodynamics. yeah, it's a good thing we're all robots that can just ignore hunger
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Sep 1, 2016 23:54
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I AM THE TOILET posted:i guess all those people who brag about never exercising and being able to eat whatever they want are loving LIARS because they must be surreptitiously keeping up a planet fitness membership and treadmilling it up at 2 in the morning like some WHORE actually the flip side to the "laws of thermodynamics" arguments is that it's totally possible to not burn or store all of the energy available to you
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Sep 1, 2016 23:59
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Frosted Flake posted:Yes. Were you looking for the women, gays or genderblob thread? Anyone can eat less (and that's where the focus should be, not exercise), but it's not easy for the vast majority of people. If it was easy, we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic. Most fat people want to lose weight, but don't, precisely because it is hard. Telling people losing weight is easy has the unfortunate effect of causing more people to fail. So thanks for contributing to obesity I guess?
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Sep 2, 2016 13:47
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8 track betamax posted:Actually it's not hard you baby despite all of the evidence to the contrary you're right
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Sep 2, 2016 13:55
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Pannus posted:The solution is simple but maybe not easy for fat ppl with no willpower there's way too much emphasis on willpower imo. Willpower is important in the early stages of weight loss, but in the long term discipline is what will bring success. The trick is building up that discipline before your willpower gives out.
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Sep 2, 2016 13:58
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Zzulu posted:youre really weak mentally if you cant just reduce food intake for a few months until your weight goes down yes, maintaining willpower over the course of several months is the easiest thing ever lmao
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Sep 2, 2016 13:59
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Sound posted:you just don't understand how hard it is to not eat a large pizza every night by myself you don't need to eat a large pizza to get too many calories
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Sep 2, 2016 14:02
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Zzulu posted:its a minimal amount of willpower that boils down to "eatin less" you can get too many calories without eating twinkies
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Sep 2, 2016 14:03
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Lichy posted:corporations don't necessarily understand your body at all lol if you don't think food is specifically engineered by the corporations to keep people fat
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Sep 2, 2016 14:26
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Blitter posted:Yeah, ok, losing weight is harder than continuing to be a fat gently caress. How is this a revelation or relevant? I don't know, which is why I'm always puzzled when people say how easy it is
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Sep 2, 2016 14:27
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The Wizard of Poz posted:maybe someone asked this already but why can op accept that appetite can vary from person to person, but cant/won't accept that willpower and self control can also vary from person to person and some people are just fat lazy autists people have some kind of cognitive dissonance when it comes to biodiversity. Like it's totally impossible that one person's target body fat percentage could be higher than another's.
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Sep 2, 2016 14:29
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Azuth0667 posted:Hahahahahahah look at all these people acting like you can just put extra points into WIL to solve all your problems as if life was a Bioware RPG. Well, I was serious about the discipline thing. Discipline is a powerful tool, and it can be built up over time. Willpower is easier to maintain in the short term if you know there's light at the end of the tunnel, so knowing you can build up discipline for the long haul can help people. It worked for me, anyway.
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Sep 2, 2016 14:35
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The Wizard of Poz posted:because its "hard" but not prohibitively so for anyone who would genuinely rather lose weight than just gorging on whatever happy-make-feel-good poo poo they wanna shove into their gluttonous hole you do not need to gorge on "happy-make-feel-good-poo poo" to get too many calories
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Sep 2, 2016 14:36
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Blitter posted:Because it *is* easy to start by honestly looking at your diet and health by counting calories and activity. so easy that obesity isn't even really an issue oh, except in the real world where two thirds of the US population is overweight
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Sep 2, 2016 14:55
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Rakosi posted:You seem to think that if a lot of people can't/refuse to do something it must be too hard. "not easy" != "too hard"
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Sep 2, 2016 15:05
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Blitter posted:Yeah, and I chalk that up to the kind of learned helplessness you illustrate and the pathetic hugbox bullshit excuses that somehow preclude the ability to learn and change. I don't disagree with anything you've said here. People can and do lose weight. I've done it. Literally anybody *can* lose weight. There is a clear path. All I'm saying, all I've ever said, is that it's not easy. But somehow that's "learned helplessness" on my part? Yeesh.
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Sep 2, 2016 15:10
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Rakosi posted:Your lack of introspection and self-recrimination is probably a large (lol) part of why you got fat to begin with. how do you think I lost weight?
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Sep 2, 2016 15:34
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Frosted Flake posted:Apparently having just enough willpower to get by until eating habits became routine? you make that sound like a bad thing seriously wtf
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Sep 2, 2016 15:50
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The Wizard of Poz posted:Your whole point seems to rest on the theory that if something is pervasive, it must be unavoidable or at least very difficult to avoid. I don't know why you think that but it's not true. Some things are pervasive because western society is indulgent and highly focused on immediate gratification and watching what you eat over a long period of time before you see a real payoff is just too much work for some people. Other people don't mind working hard for their goals. "working hard" you say
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Sep 2, 2016 17:25
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The Wizard of Poz posted:Yeah the whole concept of calorie density (as opposed to just raw calorie content) was a game changer for me Same here. The best part of that chart is that potatoes are part of "all you can eat", despite the near-constant demonization potatoes get.
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Sep 2, 2016 17:28
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gingrich posted:is this the new fat is beautiful thread? yes
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Sep 2, 2016 18:41
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Lichy posted:forty years is not a lot of time in biological science and thus yes, most big corporations right now did not get there through knowing how bodies work super well sooooo an industry that's spent 40 years and millions of dollars in food engineering know very little about the body and made the population literally balloon into comedic levels of obesity totally by accident, but some poor schlub at home with $3 in his bank account and a GED can master weight loss "easily" the mental gymnastics are breathtaking
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Sep 2, 2016 21:14
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losing weight is easy, just eat less and move more ~somebody who believes abstinence-only education works too
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Sep 3, 2016 12:42
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Sonofsilversign posted:the brightest mind in his field the most lauded man in food engineering peers down his microscope in his billion dollar laboratory "finally after 40 years of research and testing it is finished" he whispers the sweat beading on his forehead as his tweezers ever so gently place the last grain of salt "finally my life's work is complete" he straightens his back stiff from decades of sugar balancing and announces to his enraptured colleges "i have created DORITOS® JACKED™ Spicy Street Taco flavor!" a single tear rolls down his face as the applause begins http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html
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Sep 3, 2016 12:49
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katkillad2 posted:...I'm 6 foot tall and was like 300lbs and that was after like 9 months of working out. Let's look at a few numbers. Since you didn't explicitly give your gender and age, let's assume worst possible scenario (wrt metabolism) and that you're an 80-year-old female. The average BMR for an 300 lb 6'0" 80-yo female is 1922 cal/day. Let's also assume you're one unlucky motherfucker at the lovely end of the bell curve, and that your BMR is 16% lower than average, putting you at 1614 cal/day. This means that if all the above is correct, and you only ate 1400 cal/day, and you did literally nothing all day but lay in bed, you would still lose nearly three pounds in a month. If you were actually a 30-yo male (which seems much more likely for SA, putting your adjusted BMR at 2221 cal/day), you would lose roughly 7 lbs/month. Doing nothing but lying in bed. No exercise at all. Not even doing normal day-to-day walking around and poo poo. So, you're either: a) lying b) delusional c) calculating your intake comedically wrong, or d) a literal miracle If you are, in fact, telling the truth, you should post credible evidence of the same so we can inform the medical community that your body holds the key for ending world hunger. edit: I agree with most of your TL;DR... there are factors that go into BMR that we still don't fully understand. However, all those do is change how difficult it is to lose weight, and cannot eradicate the possibility of losing weight. Tinestram fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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Wicker Man posted:gently caress cauliflower, though. Hey man, watch it... cauliflower is baller as gently caress. It's a great alternative for mashed potatoes if you're really into the low-carb thing but loving love mashed potatoes.
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