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Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
I can't fathom self-described leftists voting for Trump or casting a ballot for Stein/Johnson without experiencing head-exploding cognitive dissonance. Tossing aside the specifics of Trump himself, he's the Republican candidate who is essentially the party's chance to turn the whole country into Kansas with no real opposition.

I love the arguments that somehow Trump as president will make the GOP find their conscience and work against him, or be so bad as to create a Dem landslide majority in 2018. You'd have to be wholly ignorant of how politics and history works on a fundamental level.

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Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

I did, that exact article. Most of them just rebutted with bullshit from Platypus and the like that danced around all of Trump's actual policies and polls of his supporters.

Sorry about your idiot nihilist/accelerationist friends, may they be the first up against The Wall in our dystopian YA-novel Trumpist future.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

lozzle posted:

Accelerationism has got to be he stupidest political philosophy possible.

Even stupider than ancap libertarianism.

I don't really see them as separate. If accelerationism gets its way, the hellish conditions it would create are most likely going to be ancap libertarianism since the already-powerful would be the ones primed to dominate the blighted landscape due to their hoarded resources, etc.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Night10194 posted:

If they're stupid enough to be an accelerationist, they'd probably say "BUT BUT MODERN GERMANY IS FINE!"

Ignoring the partition, the rocky reunification, the uneasy historical memory oh yeah and also one of the most insanely destructive regimes in history that also happened.

That's because the ethnic cleansing and social darwinism will happen to other people, they'll be fine but with maybe a blister from all the self-conscious handwringing.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

lozzle posted:

Yeah but the ancap libertarians actually want that hellscape as the end goal because taxation is theft, businesses should have the right to refuse service to whoever they want for any reason, etc. etc.

So the difference is that the accelerationists are ignorant whereas the ancap libertarians played Fallout and had power fantasies about being the hero of the wasteland?

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Gyges posted:

If you're subscribing to the brilliant political ideas of Jimmy Dore then you should really take a moment and think about when it was that you acquired your crippling brain injury. Hopefully it's not too late for your doctor to help.

Who exactly is Jimmy Dore and why does he have a sizable platform? I've only ever seen other people reference his idiot ramblings.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Acebuckeye13 posted:

This got posted in the thread a few days back. It's not recommended viewing if you've got high blood pressure or think Hillary isn't literally the devil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH_pgiRdm7U

Yeah, this is what I heard of him. When Dore laughs whenever he gets nailed as an idiot who doesn't actually know the basics of how congress works it's really infuriating because you just know he has emotional distance from this since he will be economically shielded from the consequences of a full-GOP government for at least two years if not more.

"Hillary is a spineless mainstream Dem! But also the Dems have iron spines and will totally filibuster the Heritage Foundation's Supreme Court picks for an unheard-of two-year period!"

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

VitalSigns posted:

Don't forget "McConnell abolishing the filibuster for supreme court nominees is as likely as the moon falling into Lake Michigan"

So Jimmy Dore is not just an idiot but somehow a popular idiot? Are all TYT dumb like him or is he uniquely thick?

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Grouchio posted:

Is that a good or a bad thing?

Trump has been working the refs, and if anything the media is obliging in bending to pressure from the right.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
It's… almost as if, maybe, collectively as a society it is easier to help the disadvantaged than to expect individuals to sacrifice their entire being to attempt the same only with less efficiency or agency to fix the blind spots of our society!

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Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
The only part about this endless stream of Trump getting dunked on and former conservative institutions going out of their way to denounce him that I don't like is that all of these open letters and callouts have made him into this first-ever weird anomaly that just came out of nowhere, letting the party that not only elected him but has institutionally coalesced around him off the hook.

It's probably too much to ask for the national narrative to give up the "both parties have equal legitimacy as institutions" myth.

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