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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I mean why take away an option to use something

my old Galaxy S5 already can use wireless headphones, if I wanted that

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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

hth posted:

my old s5 has a battery extender and removable storage built into it. why the gently caress would i want to 'upgrade' to something that doesn't allow me both of those features

I really do not want to let go of expandable storage and battery swapping, yeah

as of now it runs everything perfectly fine too so I may just buy another one when it dies unless it just can't run stuff quickly enough



I got rid of my last phone because it would take it like 20 seconds to boot into gmail and had real issues running Maps and that was kind of it for the Droid HD Maxx

thing had a pretty great battery life, though

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Aeka 2.0 posted:

I can still plug my Sennheisers in my android, and I don't give a poo poo when a new version of my phone comes out.

smartphone makers are desperately struggling to include something that justifies purchasing a new phone that for most intents and purposes is the same piece of shiny obsidian you had before

the newer Samsung Galaxy and Note phones have little weird rounded touchscreen extension edges because... different

It's New; Buy It

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
removing the jack was a real dick move

but a smart one because all the Apple People are gonna buy the phone anyways AND the adapters that have licensing fees attached to them AND like it you filthy whore

I dropped your Lightning connector on the floor; pick it up if you want it you bitch

I KNOW YOU WANT IT ALSO YOU'RE FAT AND UGLY

opus111 posted:

My workmate spent all day bitching about the new iphone yesterday so naturally he preordered one this morning. £900 lmao.

case in point




I kind of wish there was a good smartphone that was also small

and had good battery life

and had a tactile keyboard attached that was worth a drat

with a removable battery

also it makes me breakfast and makes sound long-term investment decisions for me

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
That Fi thing looks cool and I'll keep it in mind but I'm currently in a situation where I'm using an old Verizon unlimited contract to wirelessly tether as my only internet and using like 100GB a month on streaming and online gaming and other things

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

two forty posted:

Is everybody supposed to get Bluetooth car stereos now or is it just implied you already have one? I had one that broke and admittedly it was nice but I just threw in a $30 Sony with aux in from the junkyard to replace it.



I have an innate bluetooth connection in my car but also have a fancy touchscreen thingy in my car and I hate it

MyFordTouch is glitchy as gently caress and I would have preferred a regular radio with a jury-rigged AUX-to-bluetooth adapter like I had in my last car

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

El Golden Goose posted:

I have a 2009 ford sedan and its bluetooth connection is pretty seamless and works really well in my experience. It doesn't have a touchscreen though which actually makes it easier to use and more reliable

yeah exactly the bluetooth phone/audio coming from the phone stuff is fine

everything else is... yeesh

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Watch out though. Starting last month, Verizon started literally closing the accounts of people with unlimited plans as soon as they hit 100gb. Keep it at 99gb a month and you're fine.

oh Verizon you assholes

they have the best 4G network and they know it the fuckers

think I used like 60 last month so I'm probably good though

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

2DCAT posted:

Apple is okay at integration, but their actual engineering is crap. Their R&D budget is somewhere around 5%, which shows how little they value actual innovation. Most of the good tech they own is stuff that was developed but DARPA, acquired from SRI, or elsewhere. Apple makes their money from good marketing, not good engineering.

A lot of companies would kill to get Apple's Harley Davidson-like product cult they've built up over the years; it's pretty amazing what they've accomplished from a marketing standpoint

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

notZaar posted:

It's pretty clever, it means you don't need a battery in it and it will never get pushed off by drunk people swiping.

It's really pretty neat- the thing generates an audio signal that the app reads through the Mic sorta channel on the phone. If you run an audio monitoring program on the phone and just stick the Square reader in there and swipe something with a mag strip you'll see the raw output. First one was literally a magstrip reader hooked up directly to the right points on the TRRS plug and like one resistor and later they added a PCB and an IC chip to do some sorta rudimentary encryption on the signal.

I wonder if they'll still work with the Lightning connector adapter... if it has a Mic In thing built into it I don't see why not as all the Square app requires seems to be an audio signal.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

ratbert90 posted:

Yeah, I want a company to go "You know what? gently caress making it slimmer, we made it 1mm thicker and gave you a crazy amount of battery life."

I had to put a case on my Note5 because it was too thin.

On like any phone with a removable battery you can get kits to extend it yourself and put a bigger battery in there, it's great

Yeah I loved the MAXX series of phone from Motorola

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
to be fair getting rid of a universal port that a lot of things use to pile up the licensing fees is pretty ballsy

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

cuck cuck im gay posted:

Post-Jobs Apple:



oh christ why is the charging port on the only surface of the mouse that makes it totally unusable while charging

why did they do this

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

A Stupid Baby posted:

this seems vaguely pornographic

awkward and needlessly cumbersome charging --> the leather and chains S&M of the tech world

the safe word is "Firewire"

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I'm considering going back to a wired mouse because every few weeks it seems like my Bluetooth mouse decides to like half work

Half of the time the inputs and movements register and half of the time they don't and I can't figure out what's causing it then it mysteriously just goes away

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I mean they'll eventually lose people if they keep this up or are people just terrified of switching to a different OS

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

loquacius posted:

The most ironic part of that ad campaign in retrospect is that John Hodgman is the fuckin' man

It backfired and I identified with PC more than Mac guy

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I wouldn't consider buying a Mac desktop but I mean aren't Macbooks pretty much the best laptops money can buy? I mean yeah you're kind of overpaying for what you're getting but they're at least good right?


Roylicious posted:

Apple sales have been lagging for a while now and they're having a lot of trouble breaking in to the lucrative China market.

Have a feeling they'll innovate or die a slow withering death

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I can almost get away with not needing a laptop and being able to do everything on a smartphone or tablet and a bluetooth keyboard on the road, but not quite. I don't really feel like I "need" a high-end one but next time I'm definitely springing for something better than bottom of the barrel garbage.

Now if my old Samsung RV515 would just loving die

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Mozi posted:

hrm hrm

your operating system is a piece of poo poo

(wish i had stuck w/ windows 7, 10 is just bleeeeeh)

Like I don't see a big difference personally

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I was apprehensive about Win10 but yeah I've had like no problems with it or the way it organizes things compared to 7

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
I wonder how a big, bulky, ugly phone with a huge battery that lasted for days would actually do

How much does aesthetics weigh in with the average consumer's choice of phone?

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
In the grand scheme of things it probably doesn't make a big difference

If you're an Apple Person or there's some definitive reason you use the iPhone this probably isn't going to make you switch




Pretty cocksucker move on Apple's part though

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
yeah you shouldn't brag about wasting money on useless poo poo you consumer whore

in fact this is something you should be ashamed of



lol "Golden Receiver"

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

loquacius posted:

Yeah that's why I'm still salty about it, I think. Take game consoles, they're also a stable duopoly. But whenever a game console maker makes an unpopular choice and figures that its fans are loyal enough that they'll stick around anyway, everyone just buys the other console and a valuable lesson is learned (ex: the PS3, the Xbone). But that doesn't apply to Apple, because Apple's fans will put up with anything.

Apple could literally tell its fans they have to eat poo poo if they want a new iPhone, and they'd all be on the Internet the next day talking about how really poo poo doesn't taste that bad (have you tried it??? that's what I thought!!!), and it's not a big deal because you just swallow it in one go without chewing and then it's over and you have an awesome new iPhone, and everyone needs to stop being a drama queen about it already, etc etc etc

There's gotta be some kind of time limit on this though. Like imagine if they started just reaallly dropping the ball in a consequential and noticeable way and didn't stop for like a decade- would that erode their fanclub at all?


Also have they given a non-bullshit answer as to why they dropped the jack yet?

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

loquacius posted:

Maybe, but honestly maybe not. People display a remarkable amount of doublethink when it comes to Apple. :shrug:

It might be almost impossible for them to gently caress up in a bad enough way for people to care, I guess

loquacius posted:

They don't need to, Apple apologists are already trying to minimize it everywhere it's being talked about without there even needing to be an actual upside for them to focus on

Apple hits them because it loves them

So Apple like just straight pitched removing the jack as an innovation, right?

Preeeeetttty ballsy

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

a bone to pick posted:

Their official response is they want the phone to do everything wirelessly, communicate with your PC wirelessly, listen to audio wirelessly, charge the batte- oops.

I mean they're so far up their own asses that I almost believe they did this because of ~Apple Design Philosophy~ or whatever and not for those sweet sweet licensing fees

also the last iPhone already did all those things

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Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

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Grimey Drawer

thathonkey posted:

Yeah but if you drop it within a year it's covered and you can buy the 3 year care plan

i think they just favor aesthetics over usability



look at all their terrible mouse designs over the years

Also took em what like 2 decades to admit that maybe a second mouse button was a good idea

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