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Tempora Mutantur
Feb 22, 2005

William F Cuckley posted:

maybe it'll be like a radio shack kinda thing where they license the name out to mall kiosks to test for diabetes or something

you scoff but there's a company whose business model revolves around making GBS threads in a box and sticking it in the mail to test for colon cancer

But that shitbox actually works, unlike Edison, right?

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Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
yeah kinda but it was rushed to market with little testing and it's got a high false positive rate

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

You want a high false positive rate in a first round test though, unless it's absurdly high

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Jonny 290 posted:

i think she retrained it octave down because Men Power Business Success Gravitas or something. like you can hear her working at it, that's not natural

yeah. there are moments in interviews where it literally pops back up an octave and it's pretty clear she's putting it on

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

theflyingexecutive posted:

You want a high false positive rate in a first round test though, unless it's absurdly high

iirc it's something like 3x the rate for normal stool tests

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

theflyingexecutive posted:

You want a high false positive rate in a first round test though, unless it's absurdly high

Well no but it’s better than a modest false negative rate.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

cargo cult posted:

this is prolly a trite observation but i guess we're at the stage of late capitalism where if Theranos is somehow salvaged and made profitable the entire 'plucky Stanford Dropout with no respect for science' angle will just be like re-purposed into some retarded fascist founding mythos :barf:

Pretty sure she's actually toast but if she did somehow recover there would be plenty of comparisons to Steve Jobs and his own fall from grace + recovery.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The by mail stool analysis operation is mainly for the small shitbox mailing fetish community, who see it as a socially acceptable way to engage in their passion.

https://twitter.com/aDumbMick/status/778291412748029952

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Atrocious Joe posted:

The by mail stool analysis operation is mainly for the small shitbox mailing fetish community, who see it as a socially acceptable way to engage in their passion.

https://twitter.com/aDumbMick/status/778291412748029952

*herzog voice* silicon valley... a land with a sickness of the soul

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

Atrocious Joe posted:

The by mail stool analysis operation is mainly for the small shitbox mailing fetish community, who see it as a socially acceptable way to engage in their passion.

https://twitter.com/aDumbMick/status/778291412748029952

I thought they were talking about sherlock holmes at first and couldn't see anything wrong with some girl walking around with a fake pipe and weird hat and constantly saying 'elementary my dear silicon valley neighbour i fuckin want chocolate'.

But elizabeth holmes is much worse, given that ol' lizzy constantly dresses up as Steve Jobs.

Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.
idk dressing up as the mastermind behind a criminal scheme that involved large amounts of other people's blood seems pretty in keeping with the spirit of halloween to me

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Just like when I was a wee lad and went as Ken Lay for Halloween.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Karl Barks posted:

*herzog voice* silicon valley... a land with a sickness of the soul

The coders here are in misery, and the tech journalists are in misery. I don't think they - they innovate. They just screech in pain.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Disruption is just another euphemism for loving others over for cash... shocking...

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
disruption is actually a euphemism for making money off illegal activities

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

actually it mostly means "making a computer platform that allows you to skim fees off the top of the actual goods and services produced by other people"

or, in some cases, "making an app that does the work of a dozen people poorly but more cheaply"

disrupting livelihoods in this valley

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

With Airbnb and Uber showing that successful startups don't need to have completely legal business models, and the popularity of hookup apps it's only a matter of time until a prostitution app gets pitched to investors.

Silicon Valley is gonna disrupt sex work.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
fight club app, dueling app, moonshiners app, weed tinder (actually i thin this exists), lawyr, lynchr (crowd source law enforcement app ).apps for disrupt

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Atrocious Joe posted:

With Airbnb and Uber showing that successful startups don't need to have completely legal business models, and the popularity of hookup apps it's only a matter of time until a prostitution app gets pitched to investors.

Silicon Valley is gonna disrupt sex work.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/02/03/i-only-downloaded-it-as-a-joke-honey/

there's already one based out of Germany. helps that their laws are more permissive I guess.

but where we're going, we don't need laws!

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
laws are for poors

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

quote:

Before creating Ohlala, Poppenreiter had worked on building Peppr, an app that more explicitly sought to connect clients to sex workers providing “erotic entertainment.”

App names need disrupting

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Darkman Fanpage posted:

laws are for poors

there was someone making that argument in this forum a while back

was it hamprince?

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

disrupt my neg rear end

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Fullhouse posted:

actually it mostly means "making a computer platform that allows you to skim fees off the top of the actual goods and services produced by other people"

or, in some cases, "making an app that does the work of a dozen people poorly but more cheaply"

disrupting livelihoods in this valley

Skimming fees off the top of actual goods and services produced by other people is literally the definition of capitalism. Compare uber and airbnb, whose business model is ostensibly "make an industry better with technology/exploit contractors with technology", to flexport, whose business model is actually doing that. Sure, they're also exploiting their workforce, but flexport will not succeed because that's already, say, C.H. Robinson's business model. If Flexport starts to see success, C.H. Robinson will pay a lot of money to make their technology better and then Flexport won't be doing so well anymore.

What made uber and airbnb successful is that their competitors could not do that because their business model is actually doing illegal things- running a hack taxi service, running an uninsured hotel chain- in a roundabout way that makes it legal-ish. Running a lovely contractor service that exploits its work force was already standard to taxi companies, but, yeah, it really is more profitable to run a taxi service if you don't follow any regulations! Who knew?

So yeah, I fully expect the app to connect "porn directors" with "porn stars" to be fairly successful and pretty much the logical conclusion of this whole shebang. Although maybe Theranos was a better logical conclusion.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Atrocious Joe posted:

With Airbnb and Uber showing that successful startups don't need to have completely legal business models, and the popularity of hookup apps it's only a matter of time until a prostitution app gets pitched to investors.

"successful"- neither is remotely profitable yet.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

lorn Wayne posted:

What the hell is it about pharma tech that attracts shitheads, we've already got this steve jobs worshiping dork and of course, king smug arsehole martin shkreli.

e: or is it just tech in general? i'm in tech, am i an arsehole? where am i?

Being a quack charlatan snake oil salesman is one of the oldest and most profitable professions, especially in the United States. It makes a killing, pun intentional.

WINNINGHARD
Oct 4, 2014

Darkman Fanpage posted:

laws are for poors

NO
loving
LAWS

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

WINNINGHARD posted:

NO
loving
LAWS

It's cool, with Supreme Justice Peter Thiel, laws will become but a distant memory as you drink blinding homebrew and shoot the refugees scavenging for food on the unkempt lawn of your crumbling self-built deathtrap house.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

in the grim darkness of the near future, every house is a groverhaus

Discendo Vox posted:

"successful"- neither is remotely profitable yet.

They've disrupted the traditional "profit driven model" of free enterprise. Their executives can afford all the coke they can use with just investor money.

RedneckwithGuns
Mar 28, 2007

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So what exactly was Theranos' magical physics-defying technology they were trying to push? The only thing I've heard was some way to draw blood without needles which is LOL but I haven't heard any specifics about their proposals.

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Sep 25, 2005

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Their service was going to be broad spectrum testing through a finger prick worth of blood. They claimed to be working on technology that would allow for on the spot testing of 100+ conditions through a single drop. They partnered with Walgreens I believe (a partnership that was recently broken off) to install these testing machines in their stores.

You walk in stick your finger/hand in, the machine runs your blood and you get a read out regarding a host of different things from cholesterol to VD.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice

RedneckwithGuns posted:

So what exactly was Theranos' magical physics-defying technology they were trying to push? The only thing I've heard was some way to draw blood without needles which is LOL but I haven't heard any specifics about their proposals.

My impression was just they were saying they could get incredibly accurate test results from miniscule amounts of blood. So that, I guess. Of course in reality a pinprick of anything will get you gently caress all in terms of accurate results, and they were paying another company with ACTUAL blood-testing existence to do the tests for them, and passing off the scientifically-dubious results of as totally reliable and their own.

Edit: my slow phone posting had been annihilated.

Pierson has issued a correction as of 15:22 on Sep 21, 2016

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Eames36 posted:

Their service was going to be broad spectrum testing through a finger prick worth of blood. They claimed to be working on technology that would allow for on the spot testing of 100+ conditions through a single drop. They partnered with Walgreens I believe (a partnership that was recently broken off) to install these testing machines in their stores.

You walk in stick your finger/hand in, the machine runs your blood and you get a read out regarding a host of different things from cholesterol to VD.

Also to make things even better at Stanford, Holmes got told by her professors she had a unworkable business concept given how it was breaking scientific principles.

With current technology you need a certain volume blood to get accurate and also repeatable results.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

http://www.france24.com/en/20150429-le-corbusier-fascism-row-taints-legacy-france-foremost-architect

quote:

the exhibit endeavours to put the human back into Le Corbusier’s work, starting with his “Modulor”, a system of measurement-based on the height of the average man: 183 cm, or 226 cm with the arm raised. Yet it glosses over the well-documented fact that his structures, including his exquisite villas, turned out to be astonishingly ill-suited to human needs. The emphasis on the geometrical, sensorial and spiritual analysis of the human body as the key to understanding Le Corbusier’s work is intriguing, but it is unlikely to make much sense to any but the keenest expert of psychophysics and scientific aesthetics.

Nor can it replace politics and socio-economic context in explaining why his architecture and urban planning are designed to speed up life and make it more productive, why he was obsessed with order and the need to “cleanse and purge” cities built haphazardly over time, and why his 1925 town plan called for much of central Paris north of the Seine to be razed and replaced by high-rise blocks and motorways. Incidentally, that is precisely the part of town visitors behold upon leaving the exhibition on the Centre Pompidou's top floor. It is arguably the French capital’s finest viewpoint, and a reminder that many of Le Corbusier's more eccentric plans were mercifully rejected.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Al! posted:

We really have handed a lot of power over to Sociopath-Americans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdN4hA-rB0

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007


Le corbusier was a loving hack and hundreds of books of architectural theory can't save his lovely soulless buildings

it blows my mind that they chose him for unhq

theflyingexecutive has issued a correction as of 08:46 on Sep 22, 2016

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPzJbntlnY

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Discendo Vox posted:

You, uh, do understand what's happening there, right? When public health events make headlines, scientists with bright new product spinoff ideas come out of the woodwork. It's a similar frame to Theranos.

And funding for that kind of drug development doesn't come out of normal FDA operating funds.

too bad she was not smart enough to use the massive cash influx over her fake idea to purchase smaller companies and create an actual product that was tangentially related to her product vision and then make out like a bandit

scam citizen the whole thing

but you don't have to do anything when your dad is in the cia

theflyingexecutive posted:

Le corbusier was a loving hack and hundreds of books of architectural theory can't save his lovely soulless buildings

it blows my mind that they chose him for unhq

a worthless frog eating Albert Speer

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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S.T.C.A. posted:

Am I the only one who is surprised by her voice? I keep thinking I'm hearing a dub of someone mocking her, because her voice is so drat unnatural sounding to me, like she practices sounding that way for whatever reason or something.

she spent hours in the mirror practicing lines this is in her expose i think

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Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

lorn Wayne posted:

It's cool, with Supreme Justice Peter Thiel, laws will become but a distant memory as he drinks your blood and shoots the refugees scavenging for food on the unkempt lawn of your crumbling self-built deathtrap house.

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