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I got the lighter Sisu for judo on the thread's recommendation. Never gotten a chance to test it, though, since I haven't been to judo after busting my ankle in the spring. 
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I've got a HEMA tournament coming up in November, I'll probably wear it there just in case. Edit: Also there's a local HEMA group that does medieval wrestling, I might end up hanging out with them a bit since they don't charge training fees or anything.
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I ran into some chest-punching karate tournament yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4LjBS6Hjdo So of course I started to look into it because it looks interesting (if a bit goofy) and... There's at least three competing organizations for Kyokushin, as well as a bunch of spinoff styles? How do people compete in this mess?
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Judo can be pretty rough on the knees. If you don't mind not being sporty, tai chi might actually help you rehab the knee. Siivola fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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Sep 14, 2016 14:41
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Hoover Dam posted:... a discipline where you aren't supposed to hit your target...
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Sep 15, 2016 15:34
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Sep 15, 2016 22:24
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That's a really good reason to pick up a martial art, and BJJ is a good match for it.
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Did you read the OP? Read the OP. Especially the links.  I mean, okay, exactly what is the worst case scenario, and how would knowing martial arts help at all? Looking at the news, the worst worst case scenario right now is an active shooter situation in a rock concert. But then, on the other hand, a local guy died earlier this week when he got kicked by a nazi, fell down and broke his head. I dunno, maybe he could've used some Muay Thai. The best martial art is the one where you get attacked a lot in unpredictable ways and learn to deal. The krav place might train that way, or they might just go "no attack me like this so I can grab your crotch". The wing chun place probably doesn't train like that. The boxing and Muay Thai places probably do. Go check them out. I'm not gonna judge if you end up doing krav maga just because it feels badass. But buy the drat shoes.
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KildarX posted:I did wing chun for awhile before moving on to BJJ and Kickboxing and I can post a huge data dump on my experience with Chun if the thread wants it, but the TLDR of it is there is no point in learning Wing Chun because what you learn isn't taught in an applicable manner, and the few good things you learn from it are things you would have learned implicitly from rolling BJJ/NoGi/whatever within your first six months.  I'm always up for more certified fake martial arts.
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Oh, speaking of fake martial arts! Morihei Ueshiba, developer of aikido, was hired to teach Japanese special ops martial arts during the WWII. He eventually got sacked and replaced by a karate dude because the soldiers couldn't make the techniques work.
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Sep 20, 2016 19:18
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How many pro wrestling moves have you tried to import into your BJJ game?
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Sep 20, 2016 19:58
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The objective of judo is to throw the other guy flat on their back with force. People prefer falling to their side because that only gives the opponent a point instead of an outright win.
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That's cool stuff. I'd like "Wing Chun Theory for Dummies" next, please. I've been reading a lot of properly academic martial arts studies stuff lately and the most interesting blog on the subject I know, Kung Fu Tea, is run by a wing chun guy. He's written a book about its history, too. I think his conclusion is "well, ultimately  ". An interesting thing I learned from the blog is that wing chun was pretty unknown before Ip Man brought it to Hong Kong, where it really took off.It's kinda interesting how kyokushin karate matches actually do happen at that weird halfway point between clinching and proper boxing, but that's probably because they prohibit both clinching and punching the head. Incidentally, Russians actually have wing chun competitions. They, well, yeah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlaRMGGa-Pc
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Omglosser posted:This is loving awesome. Do you have a link or something that could verify this? I keep getting "aikido works cuz o sensei trained military guys" type stuff on google searches. Edit: Oh hey, I found it! quote:My method of training was a simple one. For punching (tsuki) I demanded that they strike to the enemy's face, and for kicking, that they attack the kintekki [tl note: balls]. Siivola fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Sep 20, 2016 |
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Sep 20, 2016 22:12
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ImplicitAssembler posted:I'm by no means an Aikido fan, but I think you are being a bit unfair:
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Dueling with O-Sensei is pretty much that already, I think you might find it interesting. Speaking of mining traditional martial arts for good stuff, is anyone here familiar with judo's kata side? I've understood there's a lot of stuff like wrist locks and whatnot collected in there.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Re bjj, is there anything I can do to stop the amount of tiny cuts I'm sustaining? We train on quite rough mats, puzzle mats I think they're called, and I often find myself with half-inch cuts on my feet and hands, occassionally my head. Is this just something I have to get used to? Been regularly training for over 2 years, so it's not a case of getting used to the mats. Cheers. Siivola fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Sep 21, 2016 12:17
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I dunno any particular brands, but drugstores should have stuff branded for dry or sensitive skin. Don't spend too much. You could also consider just showering less often – it's okay to be a bit greasy, it keeps your skin healthy. (Not too much, ya goons!) Edit: Who was it that did an effortpost about soap on the last thread? Siivola fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Sep 21, 2016 13:00
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I'm the thread's biggest Fake Martial Arts Apologist, but I've been watching a bunch of Fightpass lately and... Punchsports look pretty fun.  Maybe if I ever have a stable job and free healthcare I'll try some.
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Sep 21, 2016 21:53
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Concussions are bad for you, and getting a concussion makes it easier to get concussed again. If you get punched in the head and see stars or your ears start ringing, maybe take a break because that's a mild concussion already. Still probably safer than football, tho.
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Sep 22, 2016 14:44
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A while back I watched a video of Chris Haueter explaining how back in the day, black belts could slap lower belts in the face. They couldn't slap the black belts back, so they had to figure out a BJJ solution to it. It's a cute way of going about it, although it needs the right gym to work.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:03
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Just lol if you don't buy all your clothes at https://www.justsaiyan.co
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:I feel like 'discipline, humility and respect' are byproducts of learning any difficult physical endeavour, anything where you have to grind out improvements over time. But lol at everyone who thinks martial arts have any use beyond being an excuse to hug sweaty dudes in this day and age.
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Feb 2, 2017 11:23
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Do you no longer have to leave the mat or do you no longer have to throw up?
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Feb 2, 2017 22:15
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Nobody strikes any more and all of us sword nerds made a thread for ourselves. (Fencing is cool & good, incidentally.)
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Sword combat is a solved problem in general.
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ImplicitAssembler posted:So, you know anyone who spars with live blades?. kimbo305 posted:Is that not possible with wooden/blunt weapons and appropriate armor?
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Yeah I mean the question was specifically about low-intensity sparring so I figured I'd find an actual sparring video instead of people going at each other in a tournament.  Since I'm on a dumb HEMA tangent, here's some Slovakians doing choreographed drills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIKMPIFJkzk
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I've heard it's really good for physical therapy. Give a try if you have aches and pains from shitposting too hard.
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The Martial Arts Thread: Just Steal Running Shoes. Edit: Also: 
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It's been a long while since I wore that sweet skirt, but I watched the vs TKD vid and I find it pretty clearly aikido. The matwork in particular is very familiar. Tactically, I do think that's pretty much in line with what I learned: Keep a distance, wait for the opening, do a takedown, shoulder lock on the mat. However, having read Ellis Amdur's thoughts on atemi, I do feel there is room in aikido for a more proactive sort of approach that seeks to actively unbalance the attacker, maybe? (That might just be all my dabbling in all sorts of other styles bleeding through, though.)
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Edit: The stance in the TKD video is actually much narrower and karate-like than the one I learned. Mine is closer to the one in the BJJ videos, with the feet wide and arm extended more.kimbo305 posted:This guy clearly knows what he's doing in terms of range and timing, though his techniques only get him so far. He seems to be looking to bait the BJJ guys into doing something that he can reverse, which I feel is correct from an aikido perspective. (I'd guess his stuff gets stuffed partly because he doesn't give the BJJ guys enough room to try attacks.) He kept walking forward and offering the grips he wanted to use, which might be slightly un-self-defense-y, but it's according to his gameplan so I like it. Again, I think there's room for a more proactive "get grips, invade personal space, throw" sort of approach in aikido, but on the other hand the vast majority of aikido practice starts from the assumption that the opponent obliges when you offer them a good grip. It's hardly "dominating" but it's recognizably aikido. They seemed to have a lot of fun.
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It can be beneficial for stuff like posture, muscle control and grounding. There's a bunch of neat biomechanics behind tai chi push hands stuff, it's not based on pure magic. I remember reading about a BJJ guy who tried tai chi and found it made his BJJ game a lot better? I might be just imagining things.
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kimbo305 posted:What would be the right ruleset? BJJ plus ippon? 
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I'd have to dig into a book to confirm this, but I think aikido is Ueshiba's take on daito-ryu jujutsu, which is closer to a "modern" grappling art instead of a swords-and-knives combative system. I might be mistaken, it's been a while since I read about aikido's roots. You can actually still find schools that teach the latter and claim to have a living lineage however many centuries back, going all HEMA about it wouldn't really make much sense. Ueshiba was pretty weeb, tho, in the sense that he was apparently way nationalist and hung out with right-wing terrorists and loopy cultists.  I really recommend Ellis Amdur's book Dueling with O-Sensei, by the way. Amdur's a bit goony, but the book comes off as a fairly neutral take on aikido's roots. Lots of good stories about Ueshiba's students.
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I just remembered there actually is an aikido school that competes. It's called shodokan (sometimes called Tomiki aikido after the founder) and the matches look something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExZFSfelZc Search for 徒手乱取 on Youtube and you'll find a bunch of videos. (At least I hope I used the correct runes.) You can't grab the other guy's gi so it's even more playing pattycake than the aikido vs BJJ videos earlier, but if I squint I can sorta see familiar stuff. Edit: But to be entirely fair I see familiar stuff when I watch freestyle wrestling and that's 100% more entertaining than this. Edit2: Oh, this isn't actively embarrassing to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAFMMci9dS0 Siivola fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 25, 2017 |
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manyak posted:I think the overall body of techniques and the things they encourage are bad enough that youd be worse off doing Aikido (without cross training for context) than just doing whatever
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manyak posted:Really its just a long-winded way of saying the obvious, that techniques that actually "work" come out of thoughtful, goal-oriented, live practice or competition. Thats the quickest way to end up with something thats actually useful, and tradition is only worth as much as how it gets you to that point. Aikido has a lot of tradition thats a waste of time. Sorry for rambling but you did ask for detail I was actually hoping you'd claim how aikido doesn't have X thing so I could point out how it totally does have X thing, just done terribly. 
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boy are my arms tired posted:really want that godfather training top
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They should get together with taekwondo people for a "Let's Not in the Face" tournament.
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