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Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

steinrokkan posted:

This episode had more creative energy put into it than all seasons of TWD put together.

I'm not a big fan of TWD, but its not nearly as bad as this thread forum makes it.

Both shows have their ups and down. They're very different and I think both are enjoyable to watch. Although Z Nation is definitely more entertaining and fun.

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Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Sammus posted:

Z Nation is way more fun, and as silly as it sounds, I feel like the world in Z Nation is more realistic. At least concerning post apocalyptic settlements and humanity's overall attitude towards the situation. Especially early on, before the nukes fell. But it's the Zpocalypse, so I'm just rolling with it.

Personally, i think neither one is very realistic. At least, I hope they're not.
What bugs me about TWD is that everyone care more about killing humans than Zombies.
What bugs me about Z Nation is wherever our "heroes" go, a settlement will be destroyed.
Hell, I'm surprised those 3 crazy chicks didn't die at the end of last episode.

Either way, I enjoy both. But in all honesty, if I could only watch one show... it would be Z Nation cuz its so fun.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Slamhound posted:

Really? I always thought that what set Z Nation apart was that as often as not, the people they encountered had their own lives, survived and went about their business. When they didn't it was because their respective settlements were fundamentally unsustainable and couldn't survive any disruption. In TWD, anyone they encounter is a cardboard cutout designed to highlight how much we're supposed to love Rick Grimes.

I mean, just the fact of Sketchy and Skeezy as recurring characters speaks to a more expansive world of which our heroes are just a part. The entire 7 seasons of TWD appear to take place on a mile stretch of Georgia back roads.

I know what you mean about the back road comment. TWD always felt like, no matter how much they traveled, they're pretty much right beside where Rick started.

Regarding Z Nation, if you re-watch it, you'll notice that no settlement or group of people ever survive the group. Except for those Native Americans and those 3 crazy girls. Everything else always just die when our heros shows up. To be fair though, its never really their fault. Things just happen around them.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Slamhound posted:

The group from the Election episode survived, the settlement where Sketchy and 10k are sentenced to hanging also survive, the corporate retreat goes to hell, but there are some surveyors who make it out.

I think you'll find that Z Nation has a far higher rate of non-cast members surviving.

The show ended, the group from the election were fighting for their lives against Z's and another group of guys. We didnt' see them get completely destroyed, but they were not in good shape.
My point is not that "no one" survives, but rather most settlements or groups do not. Individuals may survive, but the group as a whole usually doesn't.

I mean I can always watch it again to see if I'm wrong (probably will at one point, the show is great).

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Slamhound posted:

Okay, but in contrast, what's the survival rate in TWD for those people/settlements who have encountered the main cast? Is it really better than Z Nation?

I guess my bigger point is that in Z Nation, there's shown to be existence outside of the main narrative/cast which adds an enormous amount of of texture to the world.

I honestly can't argue this point and therefore admit defeat.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Slamhound posted:

I…I won…an internet...argument…

:aaaaa:

Cherish this moment. It may never happen again.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Niiiiice!!!

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
I only watched the first episode of this season, but from what I can read in this thread, I'm not sure I want to continue.

Are we really that far from Viagra Zombies and Presidential Elections that this show is now unwatchable?

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
Let it not become the new Dexter

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Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
There was a totally fair and impartial election in Season 3 episode 8 so clearly the government is still working as intended :smug:

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