bman in 2288 posted:

Welp.

Hmm.

Seriously. I got nothing. This came way out of left field.

vector_to posted:

Assuming the key to the shutter is always in the servants' room, this makes the servants look pretty drat shady.

Also noteworthy is the smashing in of the faces. I was gonna propose that the culprit did this to disguise someone's corpse as someone else's, but I think everyone is accounted for right now, right?

HiKaizer posted:

So which body part got mutilated on the second night again?

ProfessorProf posted:

HiKaizer posted:

I'm sure this is a joke but Eva has too much at stake with the inheritance and Hideyoshi needs the money. Suicide seems unlikely.

alcharagia posted:

Suffocation. Because Rokkenjima is on the moon.

Qrr posted:

Huh, this doesn't really fit with gouge the X and kill. Maybe the killer(s) has given up on their silly epitaph methodology?

Also I suppose the gross smell in the basement will turn out to be Kinzos decaying corpse because nothing can be easy.

ProfessorProf posted:

The storehouse murder:


Kinzo's disappearance:


Battler's theory:


Eva and Hideyoshi's murder:


As an extra, have one more thread poll regarding visuals moving forward! Here are three options:





The last one is the native resolution for the PS3 patch. However, there's a tradeoff - the bigger the screencaps, the harder it is to fit the game's special effects that we'll be seeing more of later on into <2MB gifs, the more I'll have to wrestle with capturing them as webms, and the less of them you'll end up seeing. So, smaller resolution = more animation.

What do you think, thread?

Insurrectionist posted:

I never really thought about it before, whether when I played or when I read Shiny's LP, but the new art makes it more obvious - haven't they all been staying inside for a while now? With the way it's raining outside, whoever fled the boiler room would have difficulty avoiding getting at least a little wet, so gathering everyone and inspecting their clothes for moisture seems like a fine starting point. Obviously it wouldn't be any kind of sure thing - someone could have wet clothes for other reasons, and the killer could have dressed in raincoat and wellingtons then managed to dispose them somewhere in the mansion I suppose - but it'd still be a start in terms of figuring out who's primary suspect.

John Lee posted:

They DID ask her many of those things, though. They asked what she looked like, and I'm pretty sure they asked what she was wearing. And this time just recently, they asked her "Who was it?" and she replied "psh, you wouldn't believe me." And they came back with "But who was it REALLY" and Maria just went "BEATRICE, OKAY!?"

I'm pretty sure that, to Maria, she could see it was, to name a random name, Uncle Fester, but that his demeanor and behavior CLEARLY pointed to it REALLY being Beatrice, the real witch who totally exists. So the fact that it appeared to be Uncle Fester is of little consequence (not to mention that acknowledging that would be implicitly taking a step forward on the slippery slope of WITCHES AREN'T REAL).

Qrr posted:

I am very disappointed in that letter as a way to complete the third twilight. I'm afraid that that was cheating and everyone will need to file a complaint with the department of supernatural affairs.

As for the letter it presumably came from someone in the room. We don't really have a reason to believe in witches yet.

resurgam40 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOdISTgK3cg

That's... kinda bleak... and really not much of a mystery if the witch- or whoever- just wins in the end.

Lord Koth posted:

Nemo Somen posted:

Eh, I can think of an explanation for the murder of Eva and Hideyoshi, but yeah, Umineko's doesn't really seem like a mystery to solve, but rather one to explore (which seems true of many mysteries). I don't think the reader is supposed to fight alongside Battler, but to watch the conflict between Beatrice and Battler as if the reader is an outsider. If you think hard enough, even Beatrice's 'magic' trick breaks down, but when you do that, it takes some of the fun out of the story.

SystemLogoff posted:

This is a really captivating book. I almost want to read ahead.

HiKaizer posted:

Wait.

What?

This is not where I expected a murder mystery to go. It seems weird to disbelieve in a witch and magic when literal magic is occurring in front of you but okay Battler.

resurgam40 posted:

Hm. I am suddenly taken with the desire to read Higurashi; I mean, it's sitting right there in Steam, nearly finished, and this might be a good time to show support. Thing is, I've seen the anime (both adjectiveless and Kai, even Chiru, which was a mistake) and know all of the major plot points, would it still be worth a read, according to those who've read it?

tiistai posted:

Nice job, even if an old granny helping carry six corpses to a storage shed seems odd. As a theory this seems to mostly hold. You're ignoring some magical parts such as the bloody claw marks on Natsuhi's door and the magic circle (square?) on Eva and Hideyoshi's door, though.

Elric posted:

Look, the answer is clearly drugs. Someone drugged the tea with LSD or something, and so none of what anyone perceives can be trusted.

alcharagia posted:

except for

https://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D35dnAFiOz1k

Bholder posted:

I was about to point out how the "fat" remarks make more sense with the old sprites.

But what the hell is George wearing?!

resurgam40 posted:

I don't know how it could be called Shannon's fault, per se, since we don't know the specifics of this promise she made... but it is interesting that she went to the shrine and did something like a spell to be free of servitude.

But I don't suppose I blame her after a sweet date like that! I wonder if we're going to see something like Higurashi here, where the same essential event will be experienced by different charactes, thus providing more information (that wasn't an invitation to tell me, I'm just spit-balling). I also like the new presentation very much; allows me to see more of the sprites.

Insurrectionist posted:

I never caught this line before, but it's a pretty interesting one. We pretty much have confirmation that during Battler's time living with his grandparents on his mother's side, Kinzo and the rest of the family didn't consider him an Ushiromiya at all. Of course, the Kinzo of 1986 at least clearly despises everyone anyway, but him calling Battler someone who 'threw away the honor of the Ushiromiya family' seems to indicate he was straight-up disinherited previously, even if not in writing. It's interesting that the rest of the family seems to welcome him back with open arms despite this, with nary a comment.

I'll have to pay attention and see if it comes up more in the future.

resurgam40 posted:

Indeed, it's because she cares about her son so much that she's so horrible to Shannon here- she wants to do right by her son at all costs, and part of that is finding a girl for him who's lands are broad and who's towers run high... and though Shannon be pretty, where her lands?

resurgam40 posted:

Do you mean in terms of who could be the murderer, or just in general? Hmm...

Did I forget anybody?

tiistai posted:

Man I really like Beatrice's characterization in this scene

resurgam40 posted:

Good post

Toalpaz posted:

Wow. Battler has a lot of work cut out from him in order to save everyone from what's becoming a mass delusion among the servants. Its so strange that Shannon would think that an illusionary being was helping her with her relationship when in reality it can easily be explained by her own romantic efforts. We still haven't seen any real magic other than the disappearing and reappearing of the witch which can bee explained by mass hallucinations. Maybe there's a natural gas leak on the island, or they're eaten bad mackerel, or they use exclusively mercury plumbing...

It seems that the orphanage has really done a number on those kids! I'm sure with the amount of stress they go through on a daily basis, coupled with the fact that they're wholly dependent on their abusers and trapped on a small island probably isn't doing wonders for their mental health as we can see here.

ProfessorProf posted:

Jessica confirmed his age at 16 a couple updates into EP1.

bman in 2288 posted:

This hurts my soul.

SardonicTyrant posted:

Where did Kannon even get an outfit like that?

Lord Koth posted:

Speaking of anime cosplay, that wasn't Jessica's outfit in the original game. In that, she was dressed as, well...


In addition there was an insert song during that sequence, also related to Touhou. Presumably they were both changed/removed in the later releases for copyright reasons.

Oh, there's also some singing of a song involving Oyashiro-sama and their antics, but not talking about that any more. ProfessorProf's LP has got me replaying Higurashi due to the recent release on Steam of the last of its Question arcs, and I'm currently debating doing an LP of it. Still working out the mechanics and the time requirements, but at least considering it.