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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
It would be nice if the dogpiling on that one Freeper caused them to have a moment of introspection, but probably not.

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Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
Deep thoughts from Freep.

quote:

To: vette6387

We live in a very diverse society, and the idea that a brown person is routinely hassled by dint of him being a brown person is not plausible.

It would mean statistically all brown people are also routinely hassled because they are also brown.

62 posted on 09/22/2016 8:09:38 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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quote:

To: Glad2bnuts

The guy is dead, I can’t say he deserved to die but he clearly was killed because of the danger he presented.

The guy is a danger because he is a black man. He had no weapon. He did not do anything to suggest he was mad or wanted to hurt her. She had three backups around her.

The reason black men are angry is that because they are black men they are presumed to be deadly and want to kill cops. A cop always gives me the benefit of the doubt even when he can’t see my hands. And even when I do not do exactly what he says. Or I argue with him. But then again, I have been stopped several times and I have never had a gun pointed at me. I am white so cops treat me better.

67 posted on 09/22/2016 8:53:12 AM PDT by poinq
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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Joshmo posted:

I'm flabbergasted that one Freeper actually still seems like a human.

Freepers can be oddly human in threads that don't get posted here. There's threads with Freepers talking about their cats and posting pictures of their dog and hating on the Yankees for non-political reasons, stuff anyone can get behind.

They're still miserable, hateful old people who want to burn this country to the ground because it's not Leave It To Beaver, but they are human.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Fathis Munk posted:

Double fun because deuteronomy is also part of the OT, and thus the Bible and thus their oh so valued Christian faith and culture.

You'll often see Christian sects deny that the OT matters much despite the fact that in Matthew Christ says he came to fulfill, not abolish, the Law.

I mean in fairness, there are tons of parts of Deuteronomy I think are bullshit or crazy, because it's the moral and ethical laws for the nobility of an ancient pastoral culture, but anyone who doesn't notice the emphasis on the idea that even in the harsher and more legalistic old books the Lord hammers that the powerful have an obligation to defend the powerless and to recall that they are fortunate to be wealthy and well fed (and thus extend their wealth to the community and common good) is a bastard.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
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#1 Builder
2014-2018

The OT matters or doesn't based entirely on if it supports what you already hate or want to do. See also quoting Leviticus on gay sex. Kashrut, charity to the poor being ordered by law or animal cruelty, those don't matter.

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Twelve by Pies posted:

I stood SSDF a bit during my time in the Navy and one of the things they repeatedly hammered into our heads during training was you are only authorized to use deadly force in VERY specific circumstances. In all other cases, we were only to use enough force necessary to stop the action.

So assuming this situation happened in the military and this person was believed to be a threat, the correct response would be to shoot the guy in the leg or something, as that would likely stop him. If a guy is waving a gun around and acting crazy, you shoot his arm. You don't just aim at his chest and unload.

Why the hell do Freepers think that cops should have less restrictions on use of deadly force than the loving military? I mean besides the obvious "they're hateful racist shitheads" part. Oh wait, I guess that's the only part, huh.

Uh I was in the Navy myself and if you are using a firearm then you are aiming center mass and shooting to kill. Targeting specific body parts like arms or legs was specifically explained as fantasy nonsense because if the situation doesn't call for lethal force then you shouldn't be using your weapon in the first place. It's true that there are alot of restrictions on when lethal force is to be used but if you are pulling your gun it's to kill not disable.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

We gave cops tasers and batons specifically so they wouldn't need to just shoot all of their problems away. Guns should never, under any circumstances, be used for non-lethal hits. Even assuming you don't miss the smaller target and accidentally hit whatever or whoever's standing behind the suspect, the limbs have their own major blood vessels and you're still risking death or permanent crippling to the suspect if used against them.

If you're in a situation where pumping half a dozen bullets into the guy's chest isn't the best response, just don't use your gun! poo poo, there's probably a good chance you can talk your way out of any violence. And that means actual diplomacy and negotiation, not screaming at the person to get on the ground or be killed.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Mors Rattus posted:

The OT matters or doesn't based entirely on if it supports what you already hate or want to do. See also quoting Leviticus on gay sex. Kashrut, charity to the poor being ordered by law or animal cruelty, those don't matter.

I find it's much easier to deal with if you keep in mind where it comes from and when. And always remind yourself there's a section in it on 'Man we better make sure we kill EVERY motherfucker we fight, no mercy, if they're anywhere near our territory.' in Deuteronomy.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Jagged Jim posted:

Deep thoughts from Freep.

I'm guess these cancel each other out to relatively human, so I guess that's a victory by Freep standards.


Cythereal posted:

Freepers can be oddly human in threads that don't get posted here. There's threads with Freepers talking about their cats and posting pictures of their dog and hating on the Yankees for non-political reasons, stuff anyone can get behind.

They're still miserable, hateful old people who want to burn this country to the ground because it's not Leave It To Beaver, but they are human.

Still amazes me that they can spew such venom about everyone under the Sun, then go right to seemingly human old people stuff. How exactly do you hide being such a miserable piece of human trash and go back to talking about typical old people stuff.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Axetrain posted:

Uh I was in the Navy myself and if you are using a firearm then you are aiming center mass and shooting to kill. Targeting specific body parts like arms or legs was specifically explained as fantasy nonsense because if the situation doesn't call for lethal force then you shouldn't be using your weapon in the first place. It's true that there are alot of restrictions on when lethal force is to be used but if you are pulling your gun it's to kill not disable.

It's been almost 15 years since I was in the Navy so my memory is pretty hazy. I do know that a big deal was made about escalation of force and use of deadly force being a bad thing. I do think they did say you weren't to pull your gun unless you were going to use deadly force now that I think about it but I still feel like they said do your best not to not actually kill the person, though that may have been more directed at people who were better marksmen. For someone like me who had never held a handgun in my life before the training, they probably would rather I aim center mass since it's a bigger target and easier to hit.

So yeah, I take back what I said earlier, don't wanna pull a Freep and start spreading misinformation.

Hello Meow
Nov 9, 2009

Geostomp posted:

I'm guess these cancel each other out to relatively human, so I guess that's a victory by Freep standards.


Still amazes me that they can spew such venom about everyone under the Sun, then go right to seemingly human old people stuff. How exactly do you hide being such a miserable piece of human trash and go back to talking about typical old people stuff.

I assume it's similar how seeing all the terrible poo poo they post makes me feel legit upset and sad, but I'm back to making diarrhea fart jokes within a few minutes; but from the other side of the fence.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Night10194 posted:

You'll often see Christian sects deny that the OT matters much despite the fact that in Matthew Christ says he came to fulfill, not abolish, the Law.

Oh but hell, when it comes to queers, women and those ten commandments, and to some the whole evolution/creation debacle, the OT is loving law.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Geostomp posted:

Still amazes me that they can spew such venom about everyone under the Sun, then go right to seemingly human old people stuff. How exactly do you hide being such a miserable piece of human trash and go back to talking about typical old people stuff.

A lot of them don't hide it, and I say this as someone who's close with a grandfather who might very well be a Freeper - he mentions at family gatherings that he's active in online message boards talking about politics, and he's very old and very right-wing. My grandfather is a generally nice old guy who likes to fish and loves his dog and loves college football, but bring up certain subjects and he'll launch into a passionate hour-long tirade about why can't American society be like he thought it was in the 40s and 50s when he was a young man, and my parent from that side of the family has warned my sister and I that if we ever want to bring someone of the same sex or who isn't white to a family get-together, they'll need to head up a day or two early to try to smooth things over with grandpa (and to a lesser extent, grandma).

Honestly, I figure it's an effect not unlike if your only exposure to goons was D&D. Freepers still tend strongly towards being hateful old racists, but they are still people at the end of the day and even hateful old racists tend to like their golden retriever and hate the Yankees.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

Night10194 posted:

You'll often see Christian sects deny that the OT matters much despite the fact that in Matthew Christ says he came to fulfill, not abolish, the Law.

I mean in fairness, there are tons of parts of Deuteronomy I think are bullshit or crazy, because it's the moral and ethical laws for the nobility of an ancient pastoral culture, but anyone who doesn't notice the emphasis on the idea that even in the harsher and more legalistic old books the Lord hammers that the powerful have an obligation to defend the powerless and to recall that they are fortunate to be wealthy and well fed (and thus extend their wealth to the community and common good) is a bastard.

That's one of my favorite parts of the Torah, honestly; you can tell that whoever was writing it, be it divinely inspired or not, loving knew that they had to just HAMMER that poo poo in, because wealthy people can be dense as gently caress when it comes to comprehending anything that might result in them having to make do with even a little bit less.

Finagle
Feb 18, 2007

Looks like we have a neighsayer

Night10194 posted:

You'll often see Christian sects deny that the OT matters much despite the fact that in Matthew Christ says he came to fulfill, not abolish, the Law.

I mean in fairness, there are tons of parts of Deuteronomy I think are bullshit or crazy, because it's the moral and ethical laws for the nobility of an ancient pastoral culture, but anyone who doesn't notice the emphasis on the idea that even in the harsher and more legalistic old books the Lord hammers that the powerful have an obligation to defend the powerless and to recall that they are fortunate to be wealthy and well fed (and thus extend their wealth to the community and common good) is a bastard.

See, this is interesting to me. I went to a lot of catholic schools growing up, like the kind run by nuns level of catholic. And I was told multiple times over many years by different nuns that the OT basically "was historical but didn't apply unless you are Jewish" and it was the NT that actually mattered.

Mind you, I have no idea how accurate this is from a theological standpoint it is... but it definitely makes it funny to me when I see "christians" quoting the OT to base their hate.

edit: from what I can remember (its been awhile!) the rationale was based on the old/new covenant deal. That the OT was the old covenant, and that Jesus was here to start the new covenant (rendering the old one N/A).

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Finagle posted:

See, this is interesting to me. I went to a lot of catholic schools growing up, like the kind run by nuns level of catholic. And I was told multiple times over many years by different nuns that the OT basically "was historical but didn't apply unless you are Jewish" and it was the NT that actually mattered.

Mind you, I have no idea how accurate this is from a theological standpoint it is... but it definitely makes it funny to me when I see "christians" quoting the OT to base their hate.

edit: from what I can remember (its been awhile!) the rationale was based on the old/new covenant deal. That the OT was the old covenant, and that Jesus was here to start the new covenant (rendering the old one N/A).

Well, remember that Matthew was specifically a gospel written for Jewish adherents to the new Jesus Movement before it was specifically the Christian faith. Matthew was primarily an evangelical document trying to convince other jews that Christ was the Messiah and that joining this new sect was cool and not contradictory with prior teaching. Other gospels were written for very different audiences and theological purposes.

E: It's common Christian teaching that the Old Testament and the old Law was abolished, though, despite Matthew. Partly because of passages like Acts where Peter realizes the Lord is abolishing the purity laws. Or things like Paul saying 'Yeah, sure, eat food that was offered to an idol, it's fine, because otherwise you won't be able to buy meat in a marketplace in the Hellenic world.'

Night10194 fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Sep 23, 2016

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Paul talks a lot about the Law in his epistle to the Romans. The short version is that he basically says nobody can be saved by following the Law, and the purpose of the Law was to show what sin is and how everybody's hosed because they've broken at least one of the commandments at some point or another. He also makes a point that faith is really what's important, because it's faith that justifies people. These statements are pretty important to the "saved by faith alone and works are pointless" Christian denominations.

But yes, his point was Jesus died and was resurrected and that anyone who follows him likewise died to sin and was raised as a new person. He says though that this doesn't make the Law bad or sinful, but that the Law doesn't apply to us anymore.

Now to get a bit back on the thread topic, Freepers love to claim the name of Jesus and talk about God coming back and those evil liberals who hate God and how they're God's champions fighting sin. Let's look at Romans 12, the section titled specifically "Marks of a True Christian" and see how well Freep is doing.

quote:

9 Let love be genuine; hate what is evil, hold fast to what is good; 10 love one another with mutual affection; outdo one another in showing honor. 11 Do not lag in zeal, be ardent in spirit, serve the Lord. 12 Rejoice in hope, be patient in suffering, persevere in prayer. 13 Contribute to the needs of the saints; extend hospitality to strangers.

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. 16 Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly; do not claim to be wiser than you are. 17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all. 18 If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 No, “if your enemies are hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink; for by doing this you will heap burning coals on their heads.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Yeah, sorry to derail some. Just Christian identity is so important to these people but they're such maddeningly terrible Christians, it feels kinda relevant.

Plus, the bit about God demanding you pay your laborers is super fitting to one of Trump's infuriating vices.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Night10194 posted:

Yeah, sorry to derail some. Just Christian identity is so important to these people but they're such maddeningly terrible Christians, it feels kinda relevant.

The only "good Christians" I know would be called "bleeding-heart liberal fake Christians" by freep.



From Analysis: Is it lawful self-defense to “run down” rioters surrounding your vehicle? posted by freeper servo1969

So this happened.


the article posted:

Unfortunately, persons merely blockading a highway do not inherently represent an imminent deadly force threat–simply blocking a roadway cannot normally cause death or grave bodily harm to those injured. As a result, using one’s vehicle to “run them down,” or even to physically push them aside, is unlikely to be legally justified unless there is some additional threatening conduct.

I haven't scrolled down yet, because I know what's there. So do you. Bolding is implied here.

quote:

To: servo1969

Self-defense is ALWAYS a valid excuse

If my vehicle is surrounded, I am driving over them

I have a nice big Dodge Ram 2500 with a lift kit. I won’t even need to scrape any nasty bits out of my undercarriage


2 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:06:39 PM by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)

quote:

To: servo1969

I would run them over, and the drop it into reverse!


4 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:07:24 PM by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." (Thomas Jefferson))

quote:

To: servo1969

If surrounded by a pack of looting thugs, I’ll put the pedal to the metal and let the chips fall where they may.


7 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:09:58 PM by csvset ( Illegitimi non carborundum)

quote:

To: heterosupremacist

I would do the same.

I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would actually stop.


8 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:10:38 PM by Zeneta

quote:

To: servo1969

Preventing someone from having freedom of movement is kidnapping. Use of deadly force is always justified against attempted kidnapping, because that is a “forcible felony”, just like rape and murder.


17 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:16:09 PM by Boogieman

quote:

To: servo1969

criminal gangs have no right to surround your vehicle, it involves threat, meanace, and raises probable hostage-taking and kidnapping charges, etc

i cant give any legal advice of course, but if they try it on me, I will ask them to let me leave and then if they keep me imprisoned i will tell them i intend to leave by shifting into gear and pressing my gas pedal. if they don’t clear a path they will get hit, period.

to hell with the thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if they want to call the police, fine and dandy i will deal with that when and if the time comes. meanwhile, they WILL I PROMISE YOU not imprison me on the public way

to HELL with the thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(and if people drive thru them ,, they’re still DAMned lucky folks don’t just blow their brains out)


19 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:17:04 PM by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)

quote:

To: servo1969

Analysis: Is it lawful self-defense to “run down” rioters surrounding your vehicle?

I am afraid we will have a test case before too long the way things are going......just remember, they started it.

28 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:21:43 PM by Envisioning (Before we get started, does anyone want to get out?)

quote:

To: servo1969

I’d run them down. They have every intention of harming those they get their hands on. Run them down.


64 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:12:35 PM by VermithraxPejorative

On the topic of vehicles without airbags being better for running people down (I hate you freep for making me type that),

quote:

To: Bubba_Leroy

Hey Bubba, the exact reason I am in the market for an old pickup, an old Suburban will do as well. Put a reinforced brush guard on the front and we are good to go.


67 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:42:50 PM by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From BREAKING: Tulsa police officer Betty Shelby charged with 1st degree manslaughter posted by freeper Trump20162020

On one hand, they capitulate immediately.

quote:

To: Trump20162020

Well, this certainly points to it not being a righteous shoot.


2 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:47:49 PM by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)

On the other hand,

quote:

To: Trump20162020

Wow. Nothing is ever good enough for the black supremacists though.


3 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:47:56 PM by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)

There's lots and lots and lots of this in the thread.

quote:

To: Trump20162020

Since there was reason to believe the car was a bomb, this charge is moot as he disobeyed orders and went to the vehicle and attempted to open the door.

I’d bet this is a PC bs charge for appeasement.


12 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:51:23 PM by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)

quote:

To: Trump20162020

They probably never should have let her on the force. Along with thousands more hired in various departments because they were forced to hire them by the PC Police.


21 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:52:43 PM by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)

quote:

To: Trump20162020

The entire police dept should walk off the job over this. If they can railroad her they can railroad any one of them.


28 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:54:11 PM by Bullish (Elect a Traitor... Get more Treason.)

Freepers: I SAW A BLACK MALE TRYING TO GET INTO HIS VEHICLE

quote:

To: LouieFisk

I watched the ground level video of this incident AND AS USUAL, I SAW A BLACK MALE TRYING TO GET INTO HIS VEHICLE RATHER THAN FREEZE AND OBEY COMMANDS. The media narrative was that his 'hands were in the air'.. BULLSH*T. He was trying to open his window or enter the vehicle AFTER being told to stop and that is why he was shot.
But it is kind of nice to see a female cop being subjected to wrongful punishment for the sake of political correctness instead of a white male, for a change.

It's time to EDUCATE BLACKS TO OBEY COP'S COMMANDS. This is THE problem! Blacks believe that OBEYING orders from authority harkens back to SLAVERY. THIS MINDSET NEEDS TO CHANGE or these shootings by police will NOT stop.

29 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:54:25 PM by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)

quote:

To: Mr. K

Your suggestion is a possibility. If the taser makes a sound when fired, she reacted by pulling her trigger in response. Or she just had a nervous twitchy trigger finger. OR SHE BELIEVED THE PCP’d SUSPECT WAS IN THE PROCESS OF REACHING FOR A WEAPON.


38 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:57:11 PM by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)

quote:

To: Trump20162020

When will the tox results for PCP or other be available? From multiple labs? The position of the vehicle on the road certainly raises all sorts of questions.


40 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:57:51 PM by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)

quote:

To: Trump20162020

God made man and woman different for a number of reasons. I don’t think one of the reasons for making woman was for her to be a policeman or soldier.


46 posted on 9/22/2016, 1:59:19 PM by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)

I'm going to skip 150 posts.

With original formatting,

quote:

To: JudyinCanada

I suspect she got scared and adrenaline Estrogen took over.

I think Obama has the same problem.

205 posted on 9/22/2016, 3:57:34 PM by ChicagahAl (Sanders - Make America Venezuela. Clinton - Make America My Piggy Bank. Trump - Make America Great.)

Yeah, no, gently caress this thread. Freep has decided that this is a big black man hopped up on PCP with a bomb in the car vs a woman that shouldn't have been a cop anyway because women are weak. Everyone loses.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Entire Indiana Fever Team Kneels During Anthem Before Playoff Game posted by freeper EveningStar

That'll be the local WNBA team. A few players on the other team also knelt.

quote:

To: EveningStar

All of them can go to hell as far as I’m concerned.


3 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:22:25 PM by Bullish (Elect a Traitor... Get more Treason.)

quote:

To: EveningStar

#LesboLivesMatter.


4 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:23:15 PM by MUDDOG

Something something fundamentals.

quote:

To: EveningStar

Was the final score 10-6


5 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:23:21 PM by Sarah Barracuda

BUT MUH BLACK ON BLACK VIOLENCE

quote:

To: EveningStar

An “important gesture”? What’s that, that blacks hate America and are ignorant of the facts that blacks kill blacks a hundred times more than cops kill blacks??


7 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:23:48 PM by CodeToad

quote:

To: EveningStar

Who cares about a bunch of nappy headed hos?


13 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:26:25 PM by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)

quote:

To: EveningStar

wnba? I didn’t know there were enough lesbos to make it financially viable.


14 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:26:35 PM by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)

quote:

To: dp0622

They’re ignorant morons who can’t think above a 5th grade level. Disgusting pigs.


15 posted on 9/22/2016, 2:27:22 PM by Bullish (Elect a Traitor... Get more Treason.)

I'm not drunk enough for this poo poo.

And these aren't even the bad threads.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Why we should treat Islamophobia as a public health issue posted by freeper PROCON

The article is pretty good.

the article posted:

When I was 16, a Texas police officer pulled me over and said "it's people like you that are ruining this country. Go back to your country." People who speed, I thought? Girls who are late for figure skating practice? I wasn't sure what he meant. What country was I supposed to go to? I was born and raised in Austin. Then, it dawned on me. It was a month after 9/11, and he meant Muslims.
[...]
Unfortunately, Islamophobia is deeply institutionalized. Americans are exposed to political campaigns, news coverage and movies that portray Muslims as outsiders and villains. One study found that the coverage of Islam and Muslims in The New York Times was more negative than the coverage of cancer, alcohol and cocaine. Structural forms of discrimination, forms such as media coverage or political campaigns that call for a ban on Muslims, help normalize discriminatory attitudes and create the institutional system of discrimination.
[...]
Members of stigmatized groups have greater stress, strained social relationships and unequal access to resources or medical care. Social marginalization increases the physiological response to stress. Discrimination against Muslim Americans has been linked to paranoia, psychological distress and reduced happiness as well as high cholesterol, obesity and other health problems.

quote:

Goleen Samari is a postdoctoral research fellow at The University of Texas at Austin.

OK....

Take a few minutes to read this illogical screed, great entertainment.

Moreover, when people are targeted based on their identity, the persistent exposure to discrimination has a pervasive, negative effect on health. Being a victim of Islamophobia can be traumatizing, with severe and lasting health impacts.

So, you're worried about YOUR health?

Well, we non-muslims are worried about OUR LIVES.

Focus on your own 7th century death cult and quit whining!


1 posted on 9/22/2016, 5:53:14 PM by PROCON

quote:

To: PROCON

The author can shove her silly little liberal ideas ...you know where.


2 posted on 9/22/2016, 5:56:58 PM by Da Coyote

quote:

To: PROCON

Dumb twit is buried in student loan debt for a PhD that qualifies her to flip burgers, and she thinks she is smarter than everybody else.


6 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:02:10 PM by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
By definition, someone with a PhD is smarter than a layperson about at least one thing. I'm going to wager that she is smarter than you in specific in all the things, you deplorable waste of air.

quote:

To: PROCON

No Muslim will ever be my countryman. I’ll never trust one, and I’ll never care for their presence.


9 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:03:10 PM by VR-21

quote:

To: PROCON

That is how they classified thought crimes in the USSR.


11 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:04:38 PM by MUDDOG

quote:

To: PROCON

Blacks in the old south have what this girl might have called “Klanaphobia”. Jews in WWII era Germany might have what she would call “Naziphobia”. The peaceful Jews of Medina who took Mohammad in when he was driven out of Mecca and were later pillaged, slaughtered, and raped for their charity might have what she calls “Islamaphobia”. As do the Christians being slaughtered by Muslims in Africa. And all the other places Muslims are slaughtering people for the crime of not submitting to Islam.


13 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:05:18 PM by AndyTheBear (Hating Islam is the natural consequence of caring about people in the Middle East, including Muslims)

quote:

To: PROCON

Moreover, when people are targeted based on their identity,

Does that include the white drivers that are set upon by ‘peaceful demonstrators’ just because they are white or the people who answer no when a troglodyte with a knife asks if he/she is Muslim or maybe the people the Charlotte NC head of Nation of Islam says that WHITE businesses should be boycotted because a BLACK officer shot a BLACK THUG?

Just checking...


14 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:05:28 PM by xrmusn ((6/98)" "If you see a civilian in cammies -- bump into him")

Didn't read the article dot txt

quote:

To: E. Pluribus Unum

Shame on the Dallas Morning News for even giving a forum to this bitter, biased ignorant little twit . . . .so the cops pulled you over, BFD, Guess what Sister, all of us get pulled over for one reason or another

You poor little victim. Maybe you should take the cops advice after all


16 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:06:10 PM by A_Former_Democrat (Romeo + Juliet = True Love hilLIAR + Obambi = ISIS)

quote:

To: PROCON

Just once I wish one of the ‘slime snowflakes would experience some REAL hostility. In the form of a fist in their face or a boot up their rear end. Something meaty, instead of this whiny, sniveling carping about perceived insults and hurt feelings.


24 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:13:33 PM by IronJack

quote:

To: PROCON

Civilizational jihad. America is a place where those persecuted in the name of Islam can find safety. To refer to those who stand for freedom from oppression ‘mentally ill’ is nothing more than a shining example of Islamic superiority complex - the same Islamics that make a show of setting themselves apart in a nation that gave up Puritanism 300 years ago.


28 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:21:17 PM by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))

quote:

To: Da Coyote

I think a more interesting course would be the “Typical Terrorist Profile” which would list all the terrorist activities committed since 2001 and include the methods of attack, the nationality of the terrorist, the religion of the terrorist, who their victims were, the method of torture or destruction utilized and the motive behind the attacks. THEN I’d like to prepare the report and give Ms. Liberal Low IQ Muslim a BIG CUP of STFU.


29 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:22:16 PM by jsanders2001

quote:

To: PROCON

The Left has to get out ahead of the inevitable backlash of undertandable fear and righteous indignation of Americans who want to survive and see their unalienable rights preserved.


34 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:33:33 PM by Crucial

quote:

To: A_Former_Democrat

I’m curious how few degrees of separation she is from CAIR officials.


42 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:46:27 PM by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)

I love it when they quote from things that get deleted.

quote:

quote:

Comment #30 Removed by Moderator

To: jsanders2001

Her pic makes me want to rip off her glasses and whatever Muslim head covering she has on

Judging from her UT profile pic, she doesn't wear glasses and goes uncovered.

[image omitted]

From her profile:

quote:

Her research focuses on social determinants of health and health disparities with a particular attention to communities in or from the Middle East and North Africa (MENA). She examines the relationships between Islamophobia, gender, and family demography and population health outcomes in the United States and MENA. Her work often focuses on how social and demographic processes affect women’s health over the life course. Her research interests include migration and health, family and community contexts of immigrant households, intergenerational relationships, women’s sexual and reproductive health, and evaluation of global and domestic public health programs and policies.

She needs to go on a field trip to Raqqa.

45 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:59:10 PM by cynwoody

quote:

quote:

To: PROCON

When I was 16, a Texas police officer pulled me over...

Or, far more likely, she is just lying about the entire "incident."

46 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:15:21 PM by montag813

That is my opinion also.

We have seen too many phony incidents of so-called "islamophobic attacks" perpetrated by muslims trying to garner sympathy.

They lie, that's what muslims do.


48 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:25:14 PM by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Hey they hate (what they perceive as) evil so clearly they pass the test. Don't even need to read the rest.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
And from Charlotte Burning - Riot Live Thread 9/22 posted by freeper tcrlaf

quote:

To: tcrlaf

Looters should be shot.


2 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:35:12 PM by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)

quote:

To: tcrlaf

this sure looks like something near civil war or at least anarchy


3 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:35:26 PM by FlyingEagle

quote:

To: tcrlaf

This is what Obola meant when he told the Ferguson rioters to stay the course.


4 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:35:37 PM by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
Snopes rating: Mostly False

Snopes posted:

At times, there has been a split between national civil rights leaders and the younger leaders here, who see their efforts as more immediate, less passive than an older generation's. But some here said relations have improved in recent weeks.

Some of the national leaders met with President Obama on Nov. 5 for a gathering that included a conversation about Ferguson.

According to the Rev. Al Sharpton, who has appeared frequently in St. Louis with the Brown family and delivered a speech at Mr. Brown's funeral, Mr. Obama "was concerned about Ferguson staying on course in terms of pursuing what it was that he knew we were advocating. He said he hopes that we're doing all we can to keep peace."

quote:

To: tcrlaf

Let’s hope for a run away 18 wheeler from Mexico driven by a illegal!


10 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:37:41 PM by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)

From the context, this is a "it'd be great if" post, not a lamentation.

quote:

To: tcrlaf

TOTALLY amazed how many digital cameras, cell phone shots, and media buffs trying to make or get a story. If they outlawed cameras, and there was no story to tell, people would go home.


12 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:38:16 PM by rovenstinez

quote:

To: tcrlaf

Ants ripe for the squashing.


15 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:39:23 PM by lightman (I'm nobody special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)

Freepers:

quote:

To: FlyingEagle

This rioting is good for Trump. Allows Illary to continue bashing LEO before the debates and will drive her into a real corner when Trump points out her radical background.


19 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:40:37 PM by Navin Johnson

quote:

To: tcrlaf

I would be okay if they used real bullets.. exterminate these lawless thugs.

It would be a good start. We could use a lot less of these societal sponges.



20 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:41:59 PM by boycott (--s)

quote:

To: tcrlaf

That is closing the barn door after the horses have left, isn’t it? The curfew should have been imposed immediately. But I do not live there so they can do as they please. It is not my head that is getting busted. The police and the National Guard if they have been deployed should have orders to shoot every rioter on sight. That would stop this poo poo dead in its tracks.


23 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:42:47 PM by sport

quote:

To: tcrlaf

Bring out the cattle trucks, detain this mob and strip them of communications, roadblock the roads that the trucks use, process the arrested in the most remote area of the county with a razorwire fence with National Guard perimeters strictly enforced. Set up a tent city for their convenience (at least provide the tents and lest them figure out how to set them up!

No more cushy jail amenities..., just emulate Sheriff Joe's complexes...

29 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:45:06 PM by ExSES (the "bottom-line")

:stonkhat:

quote:

To: tcrlaf

I understand that the Constitution allows meetings and peaceful protests but when the peaceful protests become violent then all bets should be off. The police should then open up with machine guns until ALL protesters are dead - including the ones who hide and those who run should be run down and machine gunned.


33 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:47:20 PM by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: Please.....GET OUT and STAY OUT!)

"There's no way that local white people would support these thugs, they must be liberal plants!"

quote:

To: Navin Johnson

At least half are white. I’ll bet they were paid to come down from DC, Massachusetts and New York universities.


37 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:49:12 PM by Alas Babylon!

quote:

To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Even a “non-violent” protest on the interstate should end with a caravan of 18-wheelers turning the protesters into a new layer of pavement.


39 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:50:08 PM by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")

Just in case you've forgotten freeper Rome2000's schtick, CPUSA is the Communist Party of the United States.

quote:

To: P-Marlowe

The CPUSA has been allowed to run wild since Reagan.

Final solution time.



53 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:54:07 PM by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)

quote:

To: tcrlaf

Please, the libs on the Daily Kos need smelling salts to wake up from their delusional scenario. If anything more white Democrats are gonna cross party lines and vote for Trump.


67 posted on 9/22/2016, 8:00:56 PM by dowcaet (.)

Wordfilter alert. This is the third time that freep has invoked spooky scary skeletons social justice warriors tonight.

quote:

To: tcrlaf

The commie white SJW scum kids are in full force tonight. Wow. These people were clearly bused down to come.


74 posted on 9/22/2016, 8:03:03 PM by GuavaCheesePuff

quote:

To: dowcaet

Yeah, all Trump has to say is this is Hillary’s love. Goes back to her support of Ayres and Dorn bombing and killing Cops and her support of the “rules for radicals”.


93 posted on 9/22/2016, 8:15:52 PM by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)

quote:

To: funfan

They really look like stupid animals

That would be because most of them ARE stupid animals.

As rabid dogs are shot without compunction, so should feral dindus be shot without compunction.


111 posted on 9/22/2016, 8:45:07 PM by tomkat (America OR Hitlary .. AND is not a logical option)

Freepers: feral dindus should be shot without compunction

quote:

To: VRWCarea51

Look at all the fool low-class trash whites pulling their best “fist-pump” solidarity routine in there.

Disgusting stupid fools. Yet the very picture of the opposite of what the black trash hallucinate (whites always beating them down). Stupid whites join in.


113 posted on 9/22/2016, 8:47:19 PM by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)

quote:

To: tcrlaf

I know most of the areas under attack. I would characterize them as modestly affluent, latte liberal white areas. I think this mob is being vectored in to a Southern, white target area that is also soft, and already morally beaten.


138 posted on 9/22/2016, 9:26:16 PM by Psalm 144 (One party feigns virtue, the other flaunts its corruption. May God reward both as they deserve.)

quote:

To: PROCON

“The Mayor and the police are giving in to these thugs.”

It is a latte liberal city. Lots of carpetbaggers, and lots of southerners who have submitted to the Yankee narrative of their evil, and their terribly awful, horribly horrible ancestors and history. They are beaten already, and just want to be another Atlanta. NASCAR contributes to the surrender monkey default setting, cramming down “New South” for the sake of ticket sales.


143 posted on 9/22/2016, 9:35:24 PM by Psalm 144 (One party feigns virtue, the other flaunts its corruption. May God reward both as they deserve.)

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

McGlockenshire posted:

To: tcrlaf 

Bring out the cattle trucks, detain this mob and strip them of communications, roadblock the roads that the trucks use, process the arrested in the most remote area of the county with a razorwire fence with National Guard perimeters strictly enforced. Set up a tent city for their convenience (at least provide the tents and lest them figure out how to set them up! 

No more cushy jail amenities..., just emulate Sheriff Joe's complexes... 

29 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:45:06 PM by ExSES (the "bottom-line")

How much more Nazi can you sound? Like even on purpose.

Truly, paragons of Christian philosophy. On the whole NT/OT stuff, freep is deffo more into the OT because of a much more bloodthirsty God and a more militant message in places. I've never been able to get over freep's understanding of the religion they claim to follow and protect.

kartikeya
Mar 17, 2009


McGlockenshire posted:

quote:

To: Da Coyote

I think a more interesting course would be the “Typical Terrorist Profile” which would list all the terrorist activities committed since 2001 and include the methods of attack, the nationality of the terrorist, the religion of the terrorist, who their victims were, the method of torture or destruction utilized and the motive behind the attacks. THEN I’d like to prepare the report and give Ms. Liberal Low IQ Muslim a BIG CUP of STFU.


29 posted on 9/22/2016, 6:22:16 PM by jsanders2001

Sooooo...White Christian Males then?

NachtSieger
Apr 10, 2013


kartikeya posted:

Sooooo...White Christian Males then?

Nah, liberals oppressing good straight white christian men and women.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Fathis Munk posted:

How much more Nazi can you sound? Like even on purpose.

Truly, paragons of Christian philosophy. On the whole NT/OT stuff, freep is deffo more into the OT because of a much more bloodthirsty God and a more militant message in places. I've never been able to get over freep's understanding of the religion they claim to follow and protect.

We've been over this: like everything else, the word "Christian" is just a tribal identity to them. It does nothing but specify that you are on the "right" team just like how "Muslim" and "liberal" are put you on the "wrong" team. Being on the right team means you are good, so everything you do is good. Being on the wrong team means you are bad no matter what you do.

That's how they can justify contradicting everything they claim to believe in or demanding savage torture of someone for simply existing so easily. Especially when they say it about someone visibly not what a an old white person.

Erenthal
Jan 1, 2008

A relaxing walk in the woods
Grimey Drawer

McGlockenshire posted:

To: tcrlaf

I understand that the Constitution allows meetings and peaceful protests but when the peaceful protests become violent then all bets should be off. The police should then open up with machine guns until ALL protesters are dead - including the ones who hide and those who run should be run down and machine gunned.


33 posted on 9/22/2016, 7:47:20 PM by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Note to all foreigners: Please.....GET OUT and STAY OUT!)

The party of life, folks!

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Geostomp posted:

We've been over this: like everything else, the word "Christian" is just a tribal identity to them. It does nothing but specify that you are on the "right" team just like how "Muslim" and "liberal" are put you on the "wrong" team. Being on the right team means you are good, so everything you do is good. Being on the wrong team means you are bad no matter what you do.

That's how they can justify contradicting everything they claim to believe in or demanding savage torture of someone for simply existing so easily. Especially when they say it about someone visibly not what a an old white person.

I know but it still makes me mad how they appropriate and misuse terms.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

MeLKoR posted:



"Why would you want to give a portion of what you have to anyone" I asked the man that treated all my poor family for free.

I bet he asked himself that same question many times over the years.

This cannot be real. If this is real, freep has finally broken my brain. It's soooooo close, and then :psypop:

This kind kind man gave my family free medical treatment when we were poor, such a noble Christian soul. Then I found out he cares about helping poor people more than being filthy rich, what a loving idiot!


I feel like Jesus must have had a parable about someone exactly like this freeper.

E: Found it, he's this guy

Matthew 18:21-35 posted:

[T]he Kingdom of Heaven is like a certain king, who wanted to reconcile accounts with his servants. When he had begun to reconcile, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But because he couldn't pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, with his wife, his children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down and knelt before him, saying, 'Lord, have patience with me, and I will repay you all!' The lord of that servant, being moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
"But that servant went out, and found one of his fellow servants, who owed him one hundred denarii, and he grabbed him, and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!'
"So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will repay you!' He would not, but went and cast him into prison, until he should pay back that which was due. So when his fellow servants saw what was done, they were exceedingly sorry, and came and told to their lord all that was done. Then his lord called him in, and said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt, because you begged me. Shouldn't you also have had mercy on your fellow servant, even as I had mercy on you?' His lord was angry, and delivered him to the tormentors, until he should pay all that was due to him.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Sep 23, 2016

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
That is some peak Freeper poo poo there, literally being one of 'those who do nothing' and questioning why someone who helped you would give to someone like you without actually acknowledging this.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

VitalSigns posted:

This cannot be real. If this is real, freep has finally broken my brain. It's soooooo close, and then :psypop:

This kind kind man gave my family free medical treatment when we were poor, such a noble Christian soul. Then I found out he cares about helping poor people more than being filthy rich, what a loving idiot!


I feel like Jesus must have had a parable about someone exactly like this freeper.

E: Found it, he's this guy

That guy was a dumb liberal Jew though, not a Christian. I still can't believe his example of "dumb Jews voting against their own interests" is "my mother's friend Ruthy was married to a dentist. He treated all of us for free when my pop got sick. When I grew up I realised he was a moron because we couldn't pay him.".

Are we ever going to beat this post for sheer dumbfounded blindness? I feel like we see endless awfulness but this kind of mind blowing "wait what?"-ness feels special.

jojoinnit fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Sep 23, 2016

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Even "heterosexual gays" didn't baffle me this much. I don't think this can be exceeded.

Like heterosexual gays sounds insane but if you put yourself in the mind of a freeper you can be like "well if God made sex for procreation only, then gay sex was how people would get around that back in the day, now with birth control and abortion straight people are imitating gays' ability to have the sex without the babies" so okay I see where they're going with that. They're a weirdo fundy who defines gay as "no-baby sex" hence straight people using birth control are heterosexual gays.

This guy though, is breaking my brains.

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?

VitalSigns posted:

This cannot be real. If this is real, freep has finally broken my brain. It's soooooo close, and then :psypop:

This kind kind man gave my family free medical treatment when we were poor, such a noble Christian soul. Then I found out he cares about helping poor people more than being filthy rich, what a loving idiot!

Isn't there a news show clip of some fox news right wing blowhard who said something along the lines of "I was unemployed and on the dole and the government didn't give me any help!"

They just can't see it!

VV thanks for finding the clip. Unthanks for reminding me that it was that actor guy that I like :( VV

KayTee fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Sep 23, 2016

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

KayTee posted:

Isn't there a news show clip of some fox news right wing blowhard who said something along the lines of "I was unemployed and on the dole and the government didn't give me any help!"

They just can't see it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwpBLzxe4U

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

VitalSigns posted:

Even "heterosexual gays" didn't baffle me this much. I don't think this can be exceeded.

Like heterosexual gays sounds insane but if you put yourself in the mind of a freeper you can be like "well if God made sex for procreation only, then gay sex was how people would get around that back in the day, now with birth control and abortion straight people are imitating gays' ability to have the sex without the babies" so okay I see where they're going with that. They're a weirdo fundy who defines gay as "no-baby sex" hence straight people using birth control are heterosexual gays.

This guy though, is breaking my brains.

Every attempt I come up with to lay out the premises that lead to the opinion in question make me feel really loving filthy so I'm just going to say "he's an awful, evil poo poo". Lack of compassion at that level is like bordering on psychopathy.

Uncle Ulty
Dec 12, 2006

Represent.
While it's not Freep, this Twitter exchange embodies Freep so perfectly that I couldn't help but laugh.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Somebody link that egregious shitbag Tulsa.

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Hello Meow
Nov 9, 2009
There was never rioting before the black man invented rioting by becoming president.

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