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Tias
May 25, 2008

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docbeard posted:

According to my girlfriend, I'm an ammonite, so, checks out.

An ammonite sounds like some kind of 40K gun-monk, please confirm this is the case

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May 25, 2008

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Alvarez IV posted:

A cousin of mine has been discerning for a couple of years now, and is on the verge of taking monastic vows. I don't want to say which order. The family is proud and glad for him because it's the first and only thing he's ever done that they could take pride in. When I privately confronted him regarding his motivations for the change in lifestyle (if you've ever seen "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia," he's always come off as a slightly more grounded in reality version of those characters and that ethos), he freely admitted that he has no religious vocation at all and is only going into the monastery because "It's free room and board and I get to go to sleep each night imagining all of you respecting me while I think about women and hood poo poo." He also claims that he's already sold the monks on the narrative that his family and friends are against him stepping out of the secular world, and that if I tell anyone else the truth, they'll think that I'm lying. I can't speak for the monks but all our relatives would absolutely take his side over mine on the matter.

Please pray for the good judgment of religiouses in knowing who is false, and I guess also for my cousin to grow some semblance of a conscience. Mostly the first one because my cousin's conscience is like a rock so big that God can't lift it.

I know this isn't the encouragement you want, but trust me, things are going to shake out better for him. If he's a fraud, the monks won't gently caress around setting him straight, or they'll just throw him out again. Either way, he'll be closer to hitting the bottom, so he'll get the motivation needed to grow as a person.

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May 25, 2008

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So I got around to listen to the podcast, and it's a very great answer, thanks!

We went over tibetan buddhism today, and visited a theravada temple - where we also learned about how this sort of buddhism integrated a lot of practices from bön, a shamanist and animist faith already present, and the lama there also explained that a lot of buddhist currents integrate parts of the local faiths and cultures they meet. So, at least initially, buddhism is syncretic, but is honest and cool about it, which I really like.

E: Oh, you go into this as well. Great stuff, thanks!

Tias fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Oct 5, 2017

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May 25, 2008

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The Phlegmatist posted:

Alright I finally listened to this. It's good.

Although realistically I think Tias asked about the role of God in Buddhism and you talked about the role of gods in Buddhism? Anyway the Vietnamese demons already possessed me.

Naw, I did want to know what was up with the gods in Buddhism. I mean, the religion is experience/enlightenment based, rather than shown to you by a diety, so why have dieties in the first place?

E: Also, I appreciate the pronounciation! It's not so much "Tee-arse" as "Ti-uhs.", but much better than the "Tee-rear end" people usually attempt :)

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May 25, 2008

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Holy gently caress chernobyl, there's a world of difference between "my church does not agree with your 'lifestyle' and reality, which is that your church has murdered millions of people through cultural propaganda, organized harassment and withholding health care.

I guess it's cool that you have a time machine and got here from the thirties, but try to keep up.

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May 25, 2008

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Slimy Hog posted:

Can we go back to talking about funny hats?

Or posting pictures of monks and animals?

I have to believe gopnik birb is orthodox:



Pellisworth posted:

We have elders and sometimes kids say prayers in Lakota during worship. The four cardinal directions each have a color associated with them (red yellow white and black) and a ton of spiritual significance. Honestly singing that song seems really close to paganism to me since each direction is associated with different spiritual beings and parts of Lakota cosmology. Unless Catholics are cool with praying to the thunder spirits in the west, or their ancestor star-people to the South?

Well, hegel tried to convert me by saying pagan gods could be saints, so I guess you could do the same with thunder spirits and the star people. The skyfather/great spirit - mother earth duality seems pretty clearly heretical, though.

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HEY GAIL posted:

go get baptized and become Orthodox tias

Go get naked and do mushrooms in the wood with me, then we'll talk

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May 25, 2008

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Christianity Thread II: Y'all need St. Good Puppers

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May 25, 2008

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Now Im imagining a 30 years war porn movie called bad dads army, stop making it weird

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HEY GAIL posted:

tilly was volcel. no porn there.

If I was a sperging catholic gunelord nicknamed the monk in armor and no woman would touch me with a 10 ft flaming pike, I too would claim I created that situation on purpose ;)

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Goats own, I want a herd I can love to bits, then eat the bits.

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Yeah, I had bugfood back in the spring, and on one side of the plate I had grasshoppers in fried dough and the other I had a pile of mealworms fried as is. I mean, the worms weren't bad per se, but there was just something revolting about eating maggot-looking things in mediocre cayenne rub.

If we want people eating this stuff, put it in dough, it tasted great.

Goobish posted:

I'm glad I'm not the only person with a goal of goat stewardship. Someday. Someday I'll be with goats.

Yo, if you want to live in protestant-communist paradise a sorta ok place sometimes, come raise Danish goats with me and friends!

Tias fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Oct 20, 2017

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So hallow's eve is coming up, do you liturgigoons do anything cool for that?

We're setting up the harvest blót, appeasing the hungry dead who have an easier time popping in at this time so they don't plague the year to come :black101:

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Ceciltron posted:

The dead are dead, you are merely summoning demons :gonk:

Chill fam, I've talked to and helped dead people pretty often, distinguishing between those and an honest-to-badness demons isn't really that hard.

It's an interesting story actually, because harvest time traditionally and in all lands are believed to be when the veil between worlds is thinner than usual, there are a great deal of heathen rituals associated with not getting bad spirits in your grain.

Usually, at least here in Denmark, said ritual revolves around taking the last bale of wheat, placing it in a clearing, and asking the bad spirits to take it, and once they're in there, getting rid of it.


Bel_Canto posted:

it used to be traditional to hold a vigil for all saints on october 31st; people would read from the lives of the saints, pray compline and matins, and then go visit the local graveyard to decorate the graves of their loved ones. they might also make a point of visiting and venerating local relics or local places of particular significance to a saint.

the really good poo poo comes in the following two days: hallowmas gives us the liturgy of all saints and, in the anglophone world, some absolutely baller hymnody. i'm pretty sure any anglophone church that doesn't celebrate hallowmas with Vaughan Williams's "For All the Saints" is doing it wrong.

then of course comes all souls' day, the day of prayer for the dead. it's traditional to hold a requiem mass on that day, and if you can find a really traditional one with black vestments, it owns pretty hard. gimme that good Dies Irae poo poo and a homily about the dread of the final judgment and the need for fasting and repentance and i'll be happy as a clam.

Now that's what I'm talking about :haw:

I had forgotten about For All the Saints, going to get it on now. Thanks!

Tias fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Oct 21, 2017

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Ceciltron posted:

The dead go to heaven, purgatory or hell and that is that. The rest is demons and the devil. I'm gonna pray you guys are kept safe from your own folly.

Without even knowing what it is we do, that's a bit rash, wouldn't you say?

There is more to heaven and hell than you or I ever dreamt of, Goonratio. I have a long training, and I'm responsible with what I do.

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The Phlegmatist posted:

I'll try to be nice; please stop shoving everything into your own spiritual milieu. For Christians, what you are doing is indeed dangerous and dumb.

Yes, that'd make sense if I had indeed SAID WHAT I ACTUALLY DID. Are you really such shut-ins that a common pagan group prayer for the peace of the dead can be interpreted as summoning demons?

It's been around for thousands of years before christianity, if it was as dangerous as you lot would have it to be, the world would have ended ten times already.

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