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Bel_Canto posted:Maybe, but given that we say the words "begotten, not made" during the Credo every Sunday, I'd be willing to bet that the numbers would be lower. i don't know, man, religious education isn't exactly strong in this country. i'm pretty sure atheists know more about catholicism than catholics on average (according to one study whose methodology i never investigated because i don't really care) then again that's probably sour grapes talking, since most parishes would rather have community volunteers teaching catechesis than paying people with, you know, theology degrees. god bless undergraduates focusing on religious education, maybe you'll get one of the few jobs managing the dang programs but i doubt you'll get paid to teach a class in most places
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Did not know Kirby was a Catholic I'm the girl listening to Mozart on public transit
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HEY GAL posted:the latest composer that is cool, after him modern music all sucks Nihon no ongaku wa ichiban desu.
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Smoking Crow posted:You are assigned a zone based on your continent and you can choose whether or not to ship outside of the zone Enter the santa zone
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Just got back from seeing what was quite possibly one of the best films this year, and quite certainly one of the most important. Birth of a Nation, which if you don't know is about the slave rebellion of Nat Turner, features some very important themes pertinent to this thread. It explores the importance of religion in the lives of slaves, both as a means for white people to compel slaves to obey their masters and as a call to liberation from the shackles of bondage. If you have read James Hal Cone, or anything about slave religion, I would highly recommend you see this movie. If you haven't, I recommend you see the movie and then do those readings.
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Mo Tzu posted:Just got back from seeing what was quite possibly one of the best films this year, and quite certainly one of the most important. Birth of a Nation, which if you don't know is about the slave rebellion of Nat Turner, features some very important themes pertinent to this thread. It explores the importance of religion in the lives of slaves, both as a means for white people to compel slaves to obey their masters and as a call to liberation from the shackles of bondage. If you have read James Hal Cone, or anything about slave religion, I would highly recommend you see this movie. If you haven't, I recommend you see the movie and then do those readings. welp just found out that not only is the director and one of the contributors rapists (one had his conviction overturned and the other wasn't convicted, but uh witnesses say she was intoxicated and unconscious and she killed herself so i'm inclined to believe her testimony) but there's a graphic, fictional rape scene which has the main actor (said rapist) avenging his wife's rape as though that was a main theme of nat turner's rebellion and holy gently caress does that make me completely rethink what i was saying about this film we need films that talk about black resistance and slave rebellion but holy poo poo we did not need this one. keep an eye out if that toussaint louverture movie ever gets made but avoid this one. i wish i hadn't paid to see it
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Lutha Mahtin posted:dammit mo. i'm really sorry. i am completely truthful in that the most anger i have ever felt in my life is toward men who assault women. in a detached egalitarian way perhaps you could count my opinions toward some kind of "oh yes, sexism bad" feel-good TV special. but the reality is that there are at least a few of us out here who are absolutely livid that there is a clown of a boy running for president who is normalizing really grotesque and disgusting narratives about gender relations. I have no answers here but know that, at least in spirit, most everyone here is behind you. There is a lot of hosed up poo poo in the world but we can and will overcome it. i cannot help but think you did not read my posts correctly, but maybe you're really sorry i got excited about a movie and then found out it was made by a rapist who wrote in a fictional rape scene so he could "avenge" rape
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no akuma, 0/5 would not watch again
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System Metternich posted:I don't remember if this was explained the last time this video came up, but what is happening here? Is there a strand of Evangelicalism where the ministers are throwing Holy Spirit bombs at the audience? Why is the one guy hitting people with his jacket? What is going on?
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The Phlegmatist posted:How many novenas must I pray before I get access to the secret database of Protestants hidden in the Vatican? John Paul II certainly thought so
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HEY GAL posted:they were established in the sixteenth century. you have no more right to change them on your own than john paul 2 had Writing new prayers is good Pray the gay mysteries of the rosary. You'd be surprised how many aren't huge stretches
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HEY GAL posted:i no longer pray the rosary Pray the gay Jesus prayer
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HEY GAL posted:the jesus prayer is for everyone, no matter what your orientation is "Gay Jesus, have mercy on me, a gay sinner"
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well i mean i guess he can rap but he sure can't write great rhymes. good beats, though. they cover up his own deficiencies (like making reference to drug dealing in what looks like white suburbia; like, really dude? i get that it's a common theme in rap music but like can you make it believable at least) course i wonder what the point is with white people making christian rap when rap is already super religious at times (and not just at award season either). kinda like why i don't get why white people do nerdcore when hip hop is nerdy as poo poo already
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HEY GAL posted:is that not the entire point of the sudden enlightenment school i don't know but i do know "believing things because they're in scripture" is a preeeetty big thing for shin buddhists i mean our entire belief system is based on the primal vow of the amida buddha, that all who call upon his name with a faithful heart will be reborn in his pure land and become buddhas.
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pidan posted:The ko'ans generally aren't supposed to teach you about morality, they just shock people into sudden enlightenment (actually there's different interpretations about what they're for, but they're not life advice from God). Heck in Taiwan you have people who seek to bring about the pure land on earth, which still is a principle guided by the primal vow. So like, yeah it is important for morality. Amida said everyone, not the monks, not the men, not the rich, not the powerful, but everyone. Kinda has moral implications.
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pidan posted:OK, I'll believe you that axiomatic faith in texts and founder figures is important to some Buddhists. I just haven't personally met any. well this is kind of condescending anyway have you considered that maybe the way relying on tradition, texts, and founders in buddhism looks differently than it does in christianity, so that rather than not seeing any you are in fact looking in the wrong place cause we can't exactly prove that siddhartha gaotama either escaped from the cycle of rebirth into nothingness or, from a mahayanna perspective, could move between all realms of reality, read minds, and recall all of his previous lives. or fly, really. how do we know those are things buddhas can do? texts. how do we know siddhartha achieved nirvana? texts. how do we know if we're meditating right? texts. how do we know it's impossible to practice in this lifetime? texts. i think you're underestimating the importance in scriptures in how we should live our lives as buddhists. i mean, five vows? monastic rules? etc etc?
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okay even when i was catholic i knew there was no logical explanation for a trinitarian god so you're gonna have to expound on why that doesn't seem like a leap to say that there's one god but also three but not REALLY three but not NOT really three etc etc walking the white line between different heresies also it's not really a logical leap since jesus in tradition was conceived by the power of the holy spirit, died, and came back on the third day. and then ascended to heaven is important also i think. basically the whole jesus tradition is very explicit about jesus being god (or, well, important in the case of some heretical thinkers)
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If you can't see the importance of Jesus railing against empire and think it's irrelevant for us today the only thing I can tell you is read musa dube
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HEY GAL posted:poo poo! augustine I can't blame you, I used to do the same thing
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Ceciltron posted:I helped run the mixer/sound for a small fundraising thing tonight that was being held at a Unitarian Universalist """"church"""". I don't know which part I disagree with more, Unitarianism or Universalism, but everything about the hall, which resembled a converted aircraft hangar, made me upset on a personal level. I guess I'm intolerant. Or a bigot. Maybe both? I went to the graduate theological union for my master's degree, and they had a Unitarian Universalist seminary as part of their union. So, I took a few classes at their seminary. They were doing pretty good, progressive theology, if a bit hippie dippie at times. If it weren't for the class on interreligious perspectives on LGBT issues I wouldn't have gotten published, I'll tell you that for free. And then who would bookforum.com have linked to as part of their omnivore blog series? Someone else, probably. Though there was some kinda controversy at the UU seminary I never understood where someone released e-mails they received about their president search, and so the seminary withheld the degrees of two students who, from what I understood, they had only circumstantial evidence that they were involved. Like those were e-mails sent in confidence to not the general student population or something? I never understood caring that much about how a school selected who was in charge. My senior year undergrad and my last two years seminary the deans of each institution retired, and I could give a rat's rear end who got the job. Not like I was going to be there. Though the really confusing thing was finding out there was some kinda UU reconciliation process which involves a reconciliation officer or something. I know because the students who weren't allowed to graduate complained that the seminary hadn't followed it
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of course they don't have a deep commitment to christian dogma, they're not christian
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The Phlegmatist posted:You could probably say the same about modern-day liberal Quakers. Forgetting all about their Christian roots led some younger Quakers to lead a sort of counter-revolution within the denomination trying to get them to start being doctrinal Christians again. no like unitarian universalists don't call themselves christian. like sometimes they identify with aspects of christian theology and stuff, but the same can be said about buddhism, judaism, hinduism, etc. i've known a few UUs who focused on meditation and stuff, and others who converted to judaism and i think were rabbis? i was never particularly clear on that, but then i wasn't a huge fan of that guy anyway (he was a professor of one of the most hippie dippie class i ever took, which was on transgender theology and therefore a huge disappointment at the time)
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actually now that i think about it both of the terrible, hippie dippie light on actual theology theology classes i took were taught by trans dudes funny how that works out huh
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StashAugustine posted:Was actually kinda thinking that I mean he's not gonna get canonized without a miracle for reasons that both confuse and irritate me
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P-Mack posted:Who is the patron saint of "everything's going great right now, let's keep it up"? Buddy Christ
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My sociology of religion professor who was doing research on atheism in America last time I was in his class described it as people are less likely to profess a single religious ideology, but that doesn't mean they're atheists or otherwise non religious. And this was the same guy who said atheists identify as not having a religion and that must be respected, so it's not necessarily like he has a dog in that race.
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shame on an IGA posted:I'm in the deep south and want to show explicit dismembership from the community Eat a bible in front of people and I guarantee you the community will ignore you
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The Phlegmatist posted:That reminds me. Who are some good 20th century Catholic theologians to read? I've read some of Karl Rahner and Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI's works. Who else is there of note? ALOYSIUS PIERIS i am probably the only person who would say that also ignacio ellacuria
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Hans Urs Van Balthasar is pretty rad. i say this as someone who wanted to go into theology after reading van balthasar no he is not thank you for taking the time to read this message
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you know what you right i forgot about how much poo poo he talked about augustine in his footnotes, balthasar is cool though drat dawg maybe don't quote half a chapter of dostoyevsky in the middle of your book that poo poo is bad formatting at the LEAST basically i blame balthasar for my bad habit of overquoting everything
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the only thing my knowledge of theology got me on a first date was an accusation that i was a nazi so good on you lutha mahtin and which dostoyevsky character this is important
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JavaScript was Christianity......!? if i bothered ot look up the kanji i don't know i could probably read the rest of it but eh
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look man i'm just a bitch learning japanese trying to read that japanese tweet that was mostly kana unfortunately i don't recognize that verb form so i can't actually read it even if i did know those kanji lol i've been studying for two months four hours a day five days a week with a tutor and i can't read a tweet that sucks
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pidan posted:My Japanese is bad but this is easy: Isn't だた the past tense short form of nouns? If it was present it'd be だ. This is why JLPT 5 is worthless
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