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Mo Tzu posted:Welcoming, but in a New England way not a southern way e: Furthermore, Southern Nice, like Midwestern Nice, operates on multiple levels. If you just go by the smiles and sweet words, you are missing a lot, and in some cases all, of the conversation. Just see how surprised many people were when it was explained that "bless your heart" can be "Oh, you're so sweet" or "Go to hell" depending on context. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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There's a Regina Spektor song called "Laughing With" that has a verse I really love: But God can be funny At a cocktail party when listening to a good God-themed joke, or When the crazies say He hates us And they get so red in the head you think they’re ‘bout to choke God can be funny, When told he’ll give you money if you just pray the right way And when presented like a genie who does magic like Houdini Or grants wishes like Jiminy Cricket and Santa Claus God can be so hilarious
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JcDent posted:Some of the more nationalist minded/metalheaded or whatever folks sometimes rumble about forced Christianization of Lithuania, even though it brought literacy and stuff to Lithuanian (first book in Lithuanian is a Catechism), If you want to do less-known Christian music, the eerie, dissonant music of Renaissance prince, composer, and murderer Carlo Gesualdo is astonishing. Check out the Hilliard Ensemble recording of Tenebrae, the service for Good Friday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0HksZpmuiY
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Cythereal posted:I personally find it comforting that my personal truth about what I believe may not measure up to who God really is and what He wants. I think I'd be disappointed if God was something human beings could readily understand, and I find it comforting that there are questions I don't know the answers to - and even questions I don't want to know the answers to.  . (ducks, runs)
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Paramemetic posted:Man pure land really is the most Catholic of Buddhisms. I thought it was Tibetan Buddhism because we're all about bells and music and fabulous robes* but this kind of "welp I'm definitely poo poo but maybe if I feel guilty enough someone will be merciful" perspective is Catholic as gently caress. Excellent hats, and therefore always relevant to this thread.
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Sep 21, 2016 16:43
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Can I suggest an amplification to the OP? You don't have to be a Christian. You do have to be polite.
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Sep 21, 2016 23:47
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HEY GAL posted:that's the "be a cool guy don't be an unchool guy" clause I'd be happier if it were a bit more specific, given the number of SA threads whose definition of "cool" might not be the same as this subcommunity's.
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I like Pellisworth's list a lot. I do think an explicit "Don't talk about
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Cythereal posted:Evangelicals don't wear religious hats. Checkmate, liturgical.
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Deteriorata posted:Well, you gotta be careful because rebaptizing a validly baptized believer will make them catch fire and explode, like they're sodium. Galaxy Note 7 Christianity.
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Sep 22, 2016 18:57
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Excellent post. Thank you.
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Cythereal posted:Churches are also big social events down in the American South where I live. Good luck trying to find a table at any restaurant after 11AM, as all the churchgoers flood out to breakfast/lunch/brunch with the family.
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Cythereal posted:Yup. In my experience, the Wednesday night meetings are usually aimed at youth programs and also invent something for the kids' parents to do.
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Sep 23, 2016 16:03
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stereobreadsticks posted:It depends on the individual traditions but yeah, a lot of them are basically just treated as extra saints. Even things like dressing up your statue of Santa Muerte really aren't that different from the traditions of dressing up your statues of Mary, which is also a really common thing in Mexico.
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Sep 23, 2016 16:09
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stereobreadsticks posted:Also, you should totally get awesome religion dolls, why not?
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American churches also have kitchens because it makes it easier to host a wedding or funeral (although nowadays the reception and wake are usually held elsewhere). Wow, now I'm realizing how much it would weird me out if a modern (post-1900) church *didn't* have a kitchen, and a big one. When a local church closed out this year, they sold a lot of institutional-quality kitchen equipment.
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The Phlegmatist posted:Many peasant revolts in the medieval period had a distinctive eschatological character, the one in 1381 most notably. Facing overwhelming odds, peasants still rebelled against their masters because they thought they had God on their side and that they were ushering in the Millenial Kingdom. I just got a major sad. Waaaah.
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Ceciltron posted:I'm a bad Catholic. I say I'm a bad Catholic because I don't go to church every sunday (the choir takes a break during the summer -I wish they didn't) and don't pray the rosary every day like I promised my grandfather I would. I believe, though. I have faith, insofar as I am reasonably certain God is quite real and the saints are very important to our lives. I try to live my life according to the rules of the Church, as best I can at least -sometimes you forget not to eat fish on Fridays. Lent is vegetarian and completely sober from Ash Wednesday until Easter Morning. "A bad Catholic" is God's label to attach, not yours; and He's famously willing to forgive you when you confess and are repentant. On a personal note, if staying sober during Lent -- as opposed to giving up alcohol -- is a goal and a sacrifice, you're probably drinking more than is healthy for you.
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One last thing -- I'm a non-Catholic, but I'm pretty sure that a priest can release you from private vows, so that you can find a way to honor your grandfather's memory without feeling obligated to pray the Rosary specifically.
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(outsider's point of view, be aware) There's been a thing called the Southern Baptist resurgence that radically changed the church from what you may remember from childhood. Women teachers have been fired from the seminaries because women should never instruct men. In 1998 the Baptist Faith and Message was amended (Wikipedia) "by adding a complementarian statement about male-priority gender roles in marriage, including an adverbial modifier to the verb "submit": a wife is to "submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband", followed by a lengthy description of a husband's duty to "love his wife unconditionally."" There have been public statements against contraception. Basically, the church has gone hard-right both in politics and in Bible interpretation.
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CountFosco posted:All of this talk on Aquinus' alleged corpulence made me curious, and I discovered a passage where Chesterton compares him to Count Fosco, were that character turned suddenly to saintliness!
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Ceciltron posted:So its more like a community center then? There are Sunday services, as well as community outreach. I had a friend who was doing Unitarian training for running teen education, and it was intensive and very well-thought-out, especially the sexual unit. e: System Metternich posted:It'll take me about 20-25 minutes or so when alone, and maybe half an hour when in a group. I'd say that in my area the repetitive aspect is more important/prominent than the meditation though, so your mileage may vary. Around here the rosary will often be used simply to fill the time in a pious manner, like before Mass (where the rosary will simply end whenever the service begins) or during pilgrimages. In rural Catholic areas it was common well into the 20th century to describe units of time by how many prayers of a specific sort you could say in it, like "boil it for the length of a rosary" or "it'll take you about three Lord's Prayers". A handwritten late 19th-century cookbook my grandma has somewhere still uses this as units of time That is SO COOL. It was very common, when the entire Catholic service was in Latin, for attenders to spend most of their time praying the Rosary to unite their prayers with what was going on up front. e: Let's be as polite to the UUs as we are to all the other beliefs listed in this thread. It may not be our chalice of tea, but "okay, that's weird, but I'll listen and learn" is the unspoken ethos of this thread. We all look pretty weird to outsiders. The best UU jokes are the ones they tell on themselves. Two I heard from a friend: How do you tell if a Unitarian is mad at you? By the burning question mark on your lawn. How do you recognize a Unitarian missionary? They knock on people's doors for no apparent reason. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Oct 23, 2016 |
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The Phlegmatist posted:Surprisingly you get a lot of Quakers (the liberal branch at least) doing the same; in fact some of them are pretty vitriolic towards Christians.
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System Metternich posted:I just wanted to direct your attention to this work of art I saw recently in one of my parish's churches: That does it, I'm converting. Great piece of religious art there.
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Mr Enderby posted:And yet to feel pity for him seems incredibly disrespectful to the people he hurt so badly. Particularly as he was enormously privileged, and the two people he killed were migrant sex workers, a type of person who have often been treated as somehow less worthy of dignity and compassion. That's not the same as saying "Okay, he was justified"; it's saying "God has reasons to be furious at all of us, and if I get mercy, so does he." And yeah, I have sure not perfected it. I keep promising not to hate anybody in the current American political campaigns, and I keep doing it anyway. Not hating isn't a one-time struggle that you win, it's a lifelong battle, at least for me.
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Man Whore posted:Has he even sought repentance or forgiveness? My own take is that *I* don't have to forgive [insert serial killer]; that's up to God and the people s/he directly wronged. Forgiveness is not mine to give or deny. Christ just said I shouldn't judge their sins, and that I have to love them. Thus my rationale is that I can leave the forgiveness up to God, while focusing on the task that is my own duty: to love. Which, again, is hard and a daily struggle and I mostly suck at.
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The Phlegmatist posted:This, of course, could all change if people get tired of Facebook and want to come back to participating in worship or spirituality as a face-to-face community. When we do have another religious revival in the west, I imagine that will be the reason for it. When I was growing up in the '60s and '70s (before child kidnapping became a national worry), milkboxes had "Take your family to church" printed on the side of the box, with a sketch of a churchbound family, and that wasn't in an evangelical area.
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HEY GAL posted:well i prayed to god for things to go well with this English guy i am seeing and now we agreed that we'll get married to get me out of the US so i am engaged now Hillary is wearing purple and black, so maybe she's into liturgical colors? e: She just quoted Galatians in her peroration: "And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we shall reap, if we do not give up." Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Bel_Canto posted:Wouldn't have to look far, either. The American right's distrust for Jews runs very, very deep.
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Longsuffering totally is, and I am in despair today. I was more thinking of "The Democrats would have won if X", which is not a religious topic. But I'll abide by the consensus of the thread.
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I spent yesterday evening tucked up in bed with my husband and daughter, each refreshing our devices, in near-total silence. Today I feel empty.
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HEY GAL posted:does that article fail to take into account the entire rest of german popular culture Is there a lot of poop in German popular culture? I mean poop jokes, not actual poop, which I assume the quantity of per person is probably pretty universal except in desert climates.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:the entire material world works on monkey's paw principles, dehumanize yourself and face to gnosticism 
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"as me semide" is "as meseemed", or "as it seemed to me".
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Could I ask your prayers, for tam-nonlinear? She committed suicide yesterday in despair over the upcoming loss of her health care. (The details are from Elizabeth Bear -- matociquala -- Twitter.) http://tam-nonlinear.tumblr.com/
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Bel_Canto posted:please pray for the soul of Leonard Cohen, one of the great religious songwriters of our age. may his memory be a blessing What the gently caress, 2016? Imma be down in the catacombs till 2018. Send Mass cards and gin.
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I find arguing on the Internet with people who (mostly) argue in decent and well-founded ways immensely comforting.
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Matriorb? (ducks, runs)
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:KataMary DaMercy.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:i think it's possible to have a biblical understanding of sexual morality and see homosexuality as sinful while also being a kind and loving person towards people who identify as homosexuals and treating them with full dignity and respect like you would any other person because the whole idea of christianity, it seems to me, is that none of us are righteous and we all need Christ and therefore have no place to judge. "I think homosexuality is a sin, but I respect LGBTQ people" -- does that translate into "I don't want my kids to know that sometimes kids have two mothers", or "it's too early to tell kids about that", or "I don't care what you say, you aren't really a woman"? Then yeah, it's bigotry. It doesn't matter one bit that you're "a kind and loving person", any more than it matters if you're "not a racist". The question is, are you doing cruel and unloving things? Are you standing by while other people do them? Quoting Ms. Marvel, "Good is not a thing you are. It's a thing you do."
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