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Oh so he has amnesia for a couple episodes. I hope they take it back to the good times season one was.
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Sep 20, 2017 23:55
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Didn't we just do an amnesia episode like two episodes ago?
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Sep 21, 2017 02:12
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With this much memory loss, Flash has to have CTE  Frankly I'm not surprised with some of the fast stops and starts he's gone through over the years.
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Sep 21, 2017 04:34
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I'm just hoping they aren't setting up s Buffy season 6 type scenario where the team thinks they're saving Barry from SpeedTheBadPlace, but he really was in SpeedTheGoodPlace
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Sep 21, 2017 04:55
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WE HAVE TO BRING I think I hate this season already.
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Sep 21, 2017 11:20
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On the whole, Flash is still better than Heroes, right? 
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Sep 21, 2017 14:21
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I go back and watch the first season every so often, thinking "okay, it can't have really been good, the show must suck, right?" It's still good. They did such a good job with that season. What the hell happened?
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Sep 21, 2017 14:32
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They spread themselves too thin.
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Sep 21, 2017 14:35
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FactsAreUseless posted:I go back and watch the first season every so often, thinking "okay, it can't have really been good, the show must suck, right?" It's still good. They did such a good job with that season. What the hell happened? Lots of issues. For instance, I believe they wanted it to be an anthology style of show which would have different characters each season, which was never going to happen.
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Sep 21, 2017 14:42
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Agreed with Senerio, but also I think keeping things at a smaller scale also helped out a lot with the writing. There were no world-ending speedster threats, or overuse of time travel, you only had half the main cast at STAR Labs consistently so it felt more tight-knit. No one constantly kept important secrets from one another, promising never to do it, and then doing it again five minutes later. And also having a well written villain, with complexity and a real connection to the cast that made the payoff of his reveal actually good, definitely helped. If nothing else I'm excited for season 4 because The Thinker will present a new challenge.
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Sep 21, 2017 14:44
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lotus circle posted:If nothing else I'm excited for season 4 because The Thinker will present a new challenge. I give him half a dozen episodes before Barry gets his memories back and reveals that he encountered something new and mysterious in the Speed Force and he has to get faster to beat it.
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Sep 21, 2017 14:45
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Yeah I rewatched Season 1 a few months ago, and it's still really good. I still really like a lot of the characters (Joe, sometimes Iris, Wally, Cisco, Wells). I just find the direction/writing for some of them to be frustrating (Barry, Iris, Caitlin).
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Sep 21, 2017 14:50
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No the big bad this season is Bel Biv Devoe
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Sep 21, 2017 14:50
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The title for episode six is When Harry Met Harry. I am all in for that.
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Sep 21, 2017 15:21
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FactsAreUseless posted:I go back and watch the first season every so often, thinking "okay, it can't have really been good, the show must suck, right?" It's still good. They did such a good job with that season. What the hell happened? Well for one thing, they hyped up that ultimate confrontation between Peter and Sylar and then it was behind a closed goddamned door.
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Rhyno posted:Well for one thing, they hyped up that ultimate confrontation between Peter and Sylar and then it was behind a closed goddamned door.
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Sep 21, 2017 20:39
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Rhyno posted:Well for one thing, they hyped up that ultimate confrontation between Peter and Sylar and then it was behind a closed goddamned door. "Wow did you hear that epic battle using incredible super powers on the other side of that door?"
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Sep 21, 2017 20:43
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Wheat Loaf posted:I give him half a dozen episodes before Barry gets his memories back and reveals that he encountered something new and mysterious in the Speed Force and he has to get faster to beat it. No, he'll be keeping it secret from those that can help with it and will need to re-earn their trust.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I don't know what this means. The big fight at the end of Heroes Season 1 happened behind a closed door. There were flashing lights coming out the bottom so it was probably pretty epic
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Sep 21, 2017 20:53
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An Indian guy named Mohinder held the door shut, but it was quaking from the epic struggle.
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Sep 21, 2017 21:05
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It's on the level of unseen the epic cities from that Voyager episode.
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Sep 21, 2017 21:12
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Just do a 4 show cross over the entire season.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I give him half a dozen episodes before Barry gets his memories back and reveals that he encountered something new and mysterious in the Speed Force and he has to get faster to beat it. It won't even be that complicated. Barry will have "amnesia" for 4/5ths of the season but the big reveal is that Barry was lying to them and had his memories all along but didn't tell anyone because he didn't wanted to save them from that pain... Of.... Uhh Barry not having his memories... Uhhh... Berlanti... Umm SPEED FORCE!
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Sep 21, 2017 21:50
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Guy Goodbody posted:The big fight at the end of Heroes Season 1 happened behind a closed door. There were flashing lights coming out the bottom so it was probably pretty epic No, that was in the middle of the season where Hiro goes to the future and Sylar has disguised himself as Nathan and become president. The final fight at the end of season one was Ali Larter hitting Sylar with a parking meter followed by Peter punching him a couple of times before he started to turn into a nuclear bomb, then Hiro teleported in and stabbed him.
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Sep 21, 2017 21:52
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Wheat Loaf posted:No, that was in the middle of the season where Hiro goes to the future and Sylar has disguised himself as Nathan and become president. The final fight at the end of season one was Ali Larter hitting Sylar with a parking meter followed by Peter punching him a couple of times before he started to turn into a nuclear bomb, then Hiro teleported in and stabbed him. I thought it was Peter heroically grabbing Sylar and flying up really high so they blew up in the air instead of on the ground? I honestly haven't watched it since it originally aired.
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Aleph Null posted:I thought it was Peter heroically grabbing Sylar and flying up really high so they blew up in the air instead of on the ground? I honestly haven't watched it since it originally aired. That was Nathan flying Peter out of range. Nathan's arc on that show was loving nuts.
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Rhyno posted:That was Nathan flying Peter out of range. Nathan's arc on that show was loving nuts. Remember when he's shot (by an evil time travelling version of Peter from the future?) and on life support and they think he's going to die, then Malcolm McDowell's character (who'd been killed pretty definitively in the last season) show up to heal him, and then it turns out he was hallucinating Malcolm McDowell, so he decides that God must have healed him, but then you never learn who actually made him better?
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Sep 21, 2017 23:18
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Wheat Loaf posted:Remember when he's shot (by an evil time travelling version of Peter from the future?) and on life support and they think he's going to die, then Malcolm McDowell's character (who'd been killed pretty definitively in the last season) show up to heal him, and then it turns out he was hallucinating Malcolm McDowell, so he decides that God must have healed him, but then you never learn who actually made him better? I didn't want to remember that.
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Remember domesticated pancake making Sylar
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Remember Nathan Sylar
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Remember when Peter dropped into a random woman's life, got her brother killed, then whisked her off to the Bad Future, abandoned her there, and then erased her from existence and no one cared?
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Rhyno posted:I didn't want to remember that. How about the time one episode ended with Claire in the hospital getting every single disease at once because she lost her healing powers and her immune system completely failed and the police arriving to question her mother when the doctors got suspicious, then the very next episode starts with Claire's powers coming back and they just go home? (These were the episodes where the magic eclipse removes everybody's powers, Robert Forster dramatically orders Mohinder to get them back or he'll kill him, then the eclipse ends and they all get their powers back anyway.)
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nine-gear crow posted:Remember when Peter dropped into a random woman's life, got her brother killed, then whisked her off to the Bad Future, abandoned her there, and then erased her from existence and no one cared? That's like the only thing I still remember from Heroes besides Nissans, a suicidal cheerleader, a fight behind a door, and the Fly. That poo poo was cold as gently caress.
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I stopped watching after the first season, is it true that in the later seasons amnesia became the writers' go-to tool? Like, between them Peter and Sylar had at least half a dozen amnesia stories?
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Sep 22, 2017 01:41
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It's all kind of a blur but yes there were a lot of those used. That show is one of the most crazy whiplash of quality dips between seasons I have ever experienced.
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Sep 22, 2017 02:12
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Heroes was a show on NBC. I for one am excited about this new season of The Flash on the CW.
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I wish they would be ballsy enough to just run with Wally as The Flash for a few episodes before bringing Barry back, but I'm still looking forward to this season.
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bentacos posted:I wish they would be ballsy enough to just run with Wally as The Flash for a few episodes before bringing Barry back, but I'm still looking forward to this season. I would love it if they opened with Wally doing the Fastest Man Alive monologue. 
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I don't like Wally so I'd rather he just lose his powers and go back to underground street racing off screen again.
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