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Once upon a time, some goons in the TG Industry thread thought we should have our own awards which would surely be widely respected and coveted. Please disregard the rest of this OP and proceed to this post instead. inklesspen posted:I've prepared a draft of the rules for our award, the Groggies: I expect revisions to these rules will occur before the nominations open. Obviously it would be foolish to run an award without a popular mandate. remusclaw posted:In the best game category, there are two prizes, best game and best licensed game. Is giving an award for best licensed game, essentially giving licensed games two chances for a prize rather than one, while an original game only has the one category it can win in? Should there be a best original game category? Aren't these categories at least 50% likely to overlap, or are we not considering licensed games in the best game category? This is a good question and I would like to see more discussion about this point. Is it worthwhile to explicitly recognize games based on licensed properties? inklesspen fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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Here's an idea: You don't nominate or vote for Best Original Game or Best Licensed Game; you just vote for Best Game. Once the votes are tallied, the winner will also be the winner of whichever of the other two categories it fits, and the top runner-up that fits the other category is the winner of that category. For example, if the Best Game results came back like:
in this scenario, Breakfast Cult would win Best Game and Best Original Game, while Adventures in Middle Earth would win Best Licensed Game. If AiME came out on top, it would win Best Game and Best Licensed Game, while BC would win just Best Original Game. Thoughts?
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Sep 25, 2016 03:27
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Impermanent posted:I'd like to see this list expanded to include the other side of traditional games, board games. I have already stated what is required for this to happen. Think of it as a stretch goal, but instead of pledging money, you just have to come up with a coherent set of categories for board games.
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Sep 25, 2016 03:39
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Gau posted:I don't think you're going to need an independent verification code or anything. Just have the voter list their forums name in the form. Make a thread for registration and then you can just check to make sure they posted in it. Unfortunately it turns out that sometimes people tell lies on the internet. For example, someone could fill out the form claiming to be Gau, while not actually being Gau. This would be very annoying for me to resolve. Gau posted:There should be a committee or something to head this up. There is.
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GrandpaPants posted:I would like some board and card game representation as well. As far as categories, off the top of my head, I can think of: This seems like a reasonable set of categories. Can you think of any situation under which these categories would require a judgement call on the part of the people running the awards?
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Sep 25, 2016 06:47
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Leperflesh posted:and leave it to the appropriate judges This has been the sticking point thus far; plenty of folks have said board/card games should be covered, but it took until GrandpaPants's post for anyone to suggest a set of categories and nobody has expressed interest in resolving board/card game categorization difficulties.
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Sep 25, 2016 09:19
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GrandpaPants posted:I'd be happy to be one of the panel of judges, but obviously my knowledge of board games isn't absolute. There are a few people in the bg thread who write good posts and also play a number of the new releases, so let's see if they bite. Mind, it's not that you're judging which game is best; it's that you may be called upon to judge "is this properly an expansion or not". Jimbozig posted:When will the awards run and what will the cutoff dates for games' releases be? The Hugo Awards are for works released in the "calendar" year prior to the year the awards are held; this is pretty okay because nominations close in March. My thought is that you want things released in roughly 15 months prior to 3 months prior. So, if nominations were opened at the start of October, it would be for games released between 2015 July 1 and 2016 June 30th. inklesspen fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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Sep 25, 2016 15:59
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The committee (myself and two others) are nearly done with the next revision of the procedures document.
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Sep 25, 2016 20:59
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It's not a judge's award! It's modeled on the Hugo Awards (with the fixes they applied this year to prevent rabid puppies from pulling shenanigans).
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Sep 25, 2016 22:03
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Yeah, the consensus seems to be to go for the safe-but-boring one, Critical Hits.
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This is version 0.0.2 of the specification document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15K0p56iFaNVVHLXnVZAtHTQ5gQbzNobciKWSimnTxSc/edit?usp=sharing To answer Leperflesh's muckraking question, the Critical Hits awards cabal consists of myself, unzealous, FewtureMD, MollyMetroid, and sorcerer emeritus WinsonPaine. If all goes well, we should be able to open nominations in October.
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Sep 26, 2016 03:21
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Yeah I don't know why I could have thought Leperflesh is being snarky. I was snarky in response. Anyway, look, here's the thing. Just because me and a few other folks are putting together a proposal for the awards doesn't mean it's the only way these things can work. I'll be honest and say I'm the primary person writing the spec and making proposals here, but the other cabal members have been making their opinions known as well. We're not even doing it secretly; it's just being coordinated in IRC chat instead of on a thread. If I'm doing awards wrong, step up and show how they ought to be run. But Something Awful design-by-forum-thread things have a pretty good track record of never doing anything worthwhile, which is why I'm doing these things the way I am.
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Winson_Paine posted:I think the main things at this point, unless I am mistaken, like the two major obstacles are: I'm working on the first thing here. The second thing is already in the doc I linked, but I'll summarize it here: quote:RPGs The RPGs division also has some things like "Best Licensed Game" "Best Free Game" and "Best Budget Game", etc, which are based on filtering the Best Game nominees to ones that meet these criteria. Please see the document for a fuller explanation of my proposal. If you have suggestions for changing these categories, now's the best time to bring them up.
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People I respect are telling me I should invite Leperflesh to join the committee, that he is good at organizing things. But I just can't do that. I can't work with the guy whose first response was "Let me be the first to heap abuse upon you", even if he thinks it was satire. So instead I will step down. I hope the procedures document I already wrote will be of value to anyone who tries to organize these awards. I believe I have a good plan for how to do the "one poster, one vote", which I shall elaborate upon if people are interested in hearing it, and I'd still be willing to write the web interface for it if it's wanted. inklesspen fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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