This thread is rated A for All Spoilers Allowed. This means for Mankind Divided, too, since I'd have to be a hypocrite to not want to hear about a game I haven't played. I'd appreciate you guys keeping things focused on Human Revolution, however.
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I would like to suggest a few minutes on what the Pangu story is about. The devs somehow forget what it's about and given who he was and that was awkward to listen to, despite the floof being a huge on the nose structure between Earth and the Heavens.
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Sep 26, 2016 15:17
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Suppose I'll get the obvious suggestions out of the way and say Inception and Ghost in the Shell (probably just the OVA, but they did release compilation movies of the first and second season of the TV show that are of okay quality, mostly what happens when you compress a 26 episode season into 2 hours, it also has a new voice cast). One thing that is explored later on in this game and expounded upon in Mankind Divided is that Megan is a self-interested rear end in a top hat, she's just very good at hiding it. She had no qualms about using Adam for her own advancement and works for the bad guys with nary a second thought. Kurieg fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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Sep 26, 2016 15:19
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Bobbin, you better review me some Koyaanisqatsi if you know what's good for you.
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Sep 26, 2016 15:54
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No real recommendations as far as stuff to cover in lectures, but I'm looking forward to another great LP Bobbin.
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Sep 26, 2016 16:01
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Frogfingers posted:Bobbin, you better review me some Koyaanisqatsi if you know what's good for you. Seconded! Considering the subject matter, oddly fitting!
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Sep 26, 2016 16:05
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You'd better save Malik! Also The Diamond Age is my recommendation though I don't know if that counts.
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Sep 26, 2016 16:16
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Bit disappointed you're not doing a no-kill run, but then again I could have recommended one when I saw what was happening in the last thread. Always curious about how to do the opening segment without killing, but it makes sense RP-wise to not bother. Any particular reason why you're doing New Game +? Are there story changes, or do you just start with (apparently) some of the upgrades? I really like Faridah by the way, although I'm not sure if there's one reason exactly or just a general "I like her". And as to recommendations, I absolutely loved the novel Synners by Pat Cadigan, as well as her story Mindplayers. I imagine I'll love the rest of her stuff too, but it's been in my backlog for a while.
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Sep 26, 2016 16:27
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Kurieg posted:Suppose I'll get the obvious suggestions out of the way and say Inception and Ghost in the Shell (probably just the OVA, but they did release compilation movies of the first and second season of the TV show that are of okay quality, mostly what happens when you compress a 26 episode season into 2 hours, it also has a new voice cast). I'd like to think that even between his work and making the videos Bobbin would have enough time to watch the whole GitS series, even if it only emerges in later videos. That being said, a Bobbin Threadbare lecture series would always be welcome, regardless of content (though I did get somewhat triggered when he referred to the Imperium as the Empire  ).
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Sep 26, 2016 16:31
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Super excited for this LP. I only played this when it first came out, so I'm looking forward to seeing the changes in the Directors Cut version. Also I love the style of the outfits and decor. It's ...not practical at all, but way more interesting than sleek futuristic walls and jumpsuits. Looking forward to your review of Hackers.
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Sep 26, 2016 16:39
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Serperoth posted:Bit disappointed you're not doing a no-kill run, but then again I could have recommended one when I saw what was happening in the last thread. Always curious about how to do the opening segment without killing, but it makes sense RP-wise to not bother. The way you do the opening in a no-kill run is you stay crouched at all times, you duck behind different tables as the goons mill around, and you run for it as soon as you're close enough to the exit door. Same as any other stealth run, really. I'll explain what New Game + does at the start of the next video, so you'll understand then (assuming no one bothers explaining it before then). Synners is already on my list. Grapplejack posted:You'd better save Malik! I'm doing Snow Crash and I've got enough ideas that I don't need to double-book authors.
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Sep 26, 2016 16:40
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Forgot to ask- will you be uploading videos at this time from now on? I ask because your LA Noire videos were usually uploaded in what are the wee hours in my part of the world, and so I usually had to wait until I got back from work to watch them. Right now though, it's kind of late, but they're hours I'm used to keeping (the video ended when I would've gone to bed more or less anyway).
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Sep 26, 2016 16:45
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:The way you do the opening in a no-kill run is you stay crouched at all times, you duck behind different tables as the goons mill around, and you run for it as soon as you're close enough to the exit door. Same as any other stealth run, really. Oh I'd have imagined there'd be a route out of sight to avoid them, or something. That works too, patience is a virtue. Only ever played the base game once, so that will be interesting. Bobbin Threadbare posted:Synners is already on my list. I'll make sure not to miss that, it's always seemed like I was the only one who'd heard of that book. 
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Sep 26, 2016 16:45
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Serperoth posted:I really like Faridah by the way, although I'm not sure if there's one reason exactly or just a general "I like her". Not sure if it is within the theme here but I'd like to suggest The City & The City by Miéville. It's an interesting take on dystopia, although (huge book spoiler) technically not SF. It doesn't really deal with technology, but there are some themes relevant to HR, particularly with regards to opinion forming, making and forcing, rather like the Picus and whatshisname the psychologist bits in the game. e: And hey, it's also about conspiracies and willful ignorance. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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Sep 26, 2016 16:50
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Here's a link to a Ghost Run of the Prologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94TuvveHexI Human Revolution was my entry point for the franchise, so I still look back at it very fondly. The Director's Cut thankfully fixes most of my niggling issues with the game (Like a lot of people, I was screwed during the bosses on my no kill run, and I'm sure we'll all have funny stories about those when we reach them), and it's nice to have the DLC integrated into the game... if only so my first aug every playthrough wasn't the drat inventory aug so I had room for stuff until I could sell the guns. That said, I am disappointed to hear you're skipping Invisible War (One of these days, someone will give Invisible War the LP it deserves). I feel that game gets a bad rap when in truth I think it's really good. Besides, Deus Ex The Fall exists, so trying to tell me it's the worst game in the series is just laughable. Anyway, on to the video. Still absolutely adore the intro sequence as a whole (I especially love that they got back Bob Page's VA), even if I feel the Half Life Hike (My nickname for that segment when Jensen and Megan are walking to the elevator) is becoming a tad Baby's First Game. But my jaw still drops at that credit sequence. Nice mix of Bond style coolness and the slowly growing sickening horror at what's happening to Adam. One nice touch about Jensen- his beard is cut shorter in the prologue. Compare it to when he first appears after the augmentation, and he grows it out in the six month intern.
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Sep 26, 2016 17:04
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Out of curiosity bobbin, do you have "glue to cover" on toggled or hold button
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Sep 26, 2016 17:20
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CommissarMega posted:Forgot to ask- will you be uploading videos at this time from now on? I ask because your LA Noire videos were usually uploaded in what are the wee hours in my part of the world, and so I usually had to wait until I got back from work to watch them. Right now though, it's kind of late, but they're hours I'm used to keeping (the video ended when I would've gone to bed more or less anyway). My usual update time is 11 am in my time zone, and unfortunately I don't really wake up consistently early enough to make it 9 am regularly. I was just excited to get things started today. double nine posted:Out of curiosity bobbin, do you have "glue to cover" on toggled or hold button Hold button. Makes it easy to get to iron sights and jumping faster. (Edited for not knowing what words mean) Bobbin Threadbare fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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Sep 26, 2016 17:23
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:
You specifically nixed shadowrun and you're definitely going to do Blade Runner so... Robocop maybe?
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Sep 26, 2016 17:42
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Grapplejack posted:You specifically nixed shadowrun and you're definitely going to do Blade Runner so... Robocop maybe? If we're going to go with dystopian sci fi, how about the Judge Dredd series/movies?
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Sep 26, 2016 17:53
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For a cyberpunk recommendation, I would suggest Hardwired by Walter John Williams. It was written a couple of years after Neuromancer and deals with classic cyberpunk themes, ie human/machine interface, shady corporations etc. A little bit more action oriented than Neuromancer (the film Damnation Alley was an obvious influence) but it is still a classic of the genre and still holds up pretty well today.
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Sep 26, 2016 17:55
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Grapplejack posted:You specifically nixed shadowrun and you're definitely going to do Blade Runner so... Robocop maybe? Robocop is such an obvious influence that I'm using it for my episode naming scheme. Three of the videos are going to be named after the three Prime Directives. IBlameRoadSuess posted:If we're going to go with dystopian sci fi, how about the Judge Dredd series/movies? I'm a bit iffy on Judge Dredd since it's post-apocalyptic and not quite dystopian. It might make a late appearance, but I wouldn't count on it.
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Sep 26, 2016 18:07
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Last one: 12 monkeys?
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Sep 26, 2016 18:29
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Man this reminds me I still need to replay the game with the Directors cut version. Been meaning to do that for... a couple of years now.  I actually reread the Neuromancer trilogy not too long ago and the first book is still as good as I can remember it. The others not so much I think and the ending for the trilogy just felt kind of  and a bit of a cop out even if it was foreshadowed in the first book somewhat.Still need to get reread the Bridge trilogy and Idoru at some point because after that point it felt like Gibson lost his spark somewhat and his writing became a lot more formalized. Pattern Recognition I can barely remember as anything special and I bought Spook Country but could never actually get myself to read it and now I'm pretty sure I just have it stored away somewhere else. Also I'm somewhat with you on Shadowrun being Neuromancer + Magic but I would almost add that it takes the concept and it's themes to 11 because while the Bunraku dolls in SR are a clear influence for what Rose Kolodny went through it's also that whole concept made nastier and darker. Which is a thing SR does to almost its detriment at times I'd say.
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Sep 26, 2016 18:37
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None of the LPs of this game on the forums thus far have focused too much on stealth, is that something you might do in this one Bobbin?
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Sep 26, 2016 18:39
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Grapplejack posted:Last one: 12 monkeys? Time travel, biological weapons, and an apocalypse. It's a good movie, but it doesn't have much in common with HR beyond the genre label. JT Jag posted:None of the LPs of this game on the forums thus far have focused too much on stealth, is that something you might do in this one Bobbin? I reserve the right to modify the terms of engagement as the situation warrants. In other words, I plan to go with stealth and assault in different situations in order to show off as much of the game as possible. But just for reference, you're going to see me take the Thief approach in the first mission.
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Sep 26, 2016 18:48
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Oh, yes, fantastic! This is definitely a game I want to see you tackle, Bobbin. Really looking forward to this.
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Sep 26, 2016 18:57
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Oh hell yeah, I loved your playthrough of DX1, and I love the absolute poo poo out of Human Revolution. It'll be interesting to see you go through it if you're not going full stealth, because despite getting Platinum on both the regular and director's cut version, and in Mankind Divided, I haven't killed a person in either game that wasn't mandatory or didn't have a trophy associated with it. Not to say there weren't a ton of horribly maimed individuals, because Jensen's melee is brutal.
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Sep 26, 2016 19:08
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:I reserve the right to modify the terms of engagement as the situation warrants. In other words, I plan to go with stealth and assault in different situations in order to show off as much of the game as possible. But just for reference, you're going to see me take the Thief approach in the first mission.
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Sep 26, 2016 19:19
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My basic MO after the game's halfway point is try to sneak as much as I can, but if someone finds me then it's not like I'm not going to use the revolver with armor-piercing explosive rounds, or the plasma rifle for that matter. Panchea was a bloodbath and I just added to it  .
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Sep 26, 2016 19:45
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I stealth everything and got the Pacifist achievement on my first run of Mankind Divided... albeit with a lot of save-scumming, because holy drat the AI is arbitrary at times in both HR and MD
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Sep 26, 2016 19:51
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Just noticed this referencing Philip Riley Mead as governor of Florida during HuRev. He's referenced as President during the events of the first Deus Ex. There was even a model made up for him, for a White House level that never made it into the game.
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Sep 26, 2016 19:59
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Speaking of Neuromancer, if you haven't read it, I definitely suggest the audiobook version, I think it's Arthur Addison doing the narration. It's abridged, unfortunately, but it's an amazing rendition, and super well done. It's kind of hard to find, but here's the opening part at least. Definitely worth tracking down if you can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbAN5_AgG80
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Sep 26, 2016 20:19
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Bobbin, a suggestion then: Max Headroom. The Movie, not the TV series (as it'll be easier to parse).
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Sep 26, 2016 20:24
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I've always taken the stealth focused route through this game (with a brief combat interlude because Malik). I need to find time at some point to do a proper heavy weapons assault run.
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Sep 26, 2016 20:52
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njsykora posted:I've always taken the stealth focused route through this game (with a brief combat interlude because Malik). I need to find time at some point to do a proper heavy weapons assault run. I recall having to basically hoard PEPS throughout the entire playthrough to get Malik saved in a non-lethal run. Not fun
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Sep 26, 2016 20:55
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Oh hell yeah, I loved your playthrough of DX1, and I love the absolute poo poo out of Human Revolution. It'll be interesting to see you go through it if you're not going full stealth, because despite getting Platinum on both the regular and director's cut version, and in Mankind Divided, I haven't killed a person in either game that wasn't mandatory or didn't have a trophy associated with it. That was something I was really disappointed with in Mankind Divided, that Jensen's takedowns felt so... weak compared to HR.
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Sep 26, 2016 21:16
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In regards to the microtransactions of Mankind Divided, if Jim Sterling is to be believed, it was something literally added in in the last two weeks of development--the Devs had to stop polishing the game and add in microtransactions. As for suggestions, ah, Snatcher could work.
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Sep 26, 2016 21:17
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GoneRampant posted:I especially love that they got back Bob Page's VA. I just can't take Bob Page seriously anymore, it just goes back to electronic old men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxi7JRJrod4
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Sep 26, 2016 21:44
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I just wanted to get on the ground floor to say: There is only one Deus Ex game. But, in spite of that, I will be watching this if I can stave off the fps-induced motion sickness. Bobbin Threadbare posted:I'm doing Snow Crash and I've got enough ideas that I don't need to double-book authors. Looking forward to hear your opinions on this one. I hated basically every single page of it.
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