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| MNF |
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| The Texans |
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| Whatever's about to happen to the Bills. |
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| Print the Shirts |
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If the ownership situation is that bad the Saints should probably keep Payton and Brees, hope it's resolved in 2 years and ride out the storm while at least watching a good offense. Shoot your GM if he tries to sign anyone to a contract for over a couple of million and let the salary purge happen naturally so that when Brees is about dead you can start anew with an un-hosed cap.
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Sep 27, 2016 14:50
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FizFashizzle posted:If they don't keep at least making efforts to help Brees break Peyton's various records than he'll take his jimmy johns and go home. Considering how their FA signings have gone, that's no issue. I just think they need to purge their dead money, actually draft people, and focus on signing cheap stopgaps on defense so they can maybe move up to being the 25th ranked defense and maybe a few cheap vet offensive pieces so Brees can break some records. I think the GM needs to be strangled more then anyone else, because man he hosed that team.
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Sep 27, 2016 15:43
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Wentz is good until he isn't. The optimist is thrilled with what he's doing, the pessimist just prints out a picture of RG3 and taps it over and over again anytime you say something nice about Wentz.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:25
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indigi posted:
Yeah, I'm mostly going by Wentz's injury in the preseason and reputation for running into vicious hits. He's looked real good so far, but when I hear things like Kevin Clark basically cantonizing him now I just squint at him disapprovingly.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:52
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No Butt Stuff posted:My boss is a Steelers fan. How much shittalking is too much Comparing what Wentz did to their defense to say, what Jerry Sandusky did to all those little boys is probably a bridge too far.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:55
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NippleFloss posted:I mean, the GM found money for a bunch of FA defensive signings to try and shore up the lovely defense to make another run, they just hired a Rob Ryan to use them so it was all wasted. I guess I just don't really understand how the cap situation has kept the Saints from competing. The offense is still good, the defense is garbage despite a bunch of money being dumped into it. What would they be doing if they had cap space if they had it that would help? Well, they've had problems in the draft, so they'd still be a bit talent poor on defense, but basically they wouldn't have $18m in dead money in 2018 already due to restructuring Brees over and over again, and probably have a couple of mid-tier caliber defensive players where the replacement and sub-replacement players on defense are.
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Sep 27, 2016 17:02
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:I'm just saying no one really talks about the fact that his entire career took place on destroyed knees that were made even worse by that eras medicine's poor understanding of how knees even work. The story of his knee surgeries are quite frankly horrifying Plus, he was plenty good in the AFL before the merger, and there's plenty of players that wouldn't be worthy now who got in because they played back in the day where you smoked during the game and worked construction during the offseason.
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Sep 27, 2016 17:20
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Oh wow, I was going to make a joke about the Falcons getting off to a hot start again this year, but the next 3 weeks they play the panthers, then @Broncos and @Seahawks. Gonna guess those offensive stats won't be so pretty soon enough.
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Sep 27, 2016 17:26
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Drew Bledsoe was a pretty good 2nd tier Quarterback and I love him forever. I just wish Bill Parcells hadn't intentionally thrown the Superbowl for his Jets masters.
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Sep 27, 2016 17:44
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Shath Hole posted:Before the season, I would have feared this three game stretch...seeing the way the Panthers and Seahawks have struggled, I'm not nearly as concerned. Granted, they will put up a fight much more than the Saints did, but it looks like this offense could be legit very good and can challenge just about any defenses that aren't top tier elite like the Broncos. Oh my god you guys. I just realized we're going to get to watch the Falcons pass rush vs the Seahawks offensive line for an entire game. Dwight Freeney: O/U 3 sacks?
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Sep 27, 2016 18:18
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Shath Hole posted:Yes sir. It will be like watching a fight at the special olympics. That play where Trufant blew up Brees last night, I was utterly shocked until I saw the jersey number.
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Sep 27, 2016 18:20
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Week 3 DYAR which spends a whole lot of time on Fitzpatrick's 6 pick game: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2016/week-3-quick-reads and links to a Vice article with gifs of all six: https://sports.vice.com/en_us/highlight/six-picks-none-the-richer-ryan-fitzpatricks-sunday-in-gifs The Carson Palmer entry has a pretty interesting bit: quote:One of the streakiest games you'll ever see. The bad: on Arizona's first six drives, Palmer started 3-of-13 for 17 yards with no first downs and two sacks. The good: that sixth drive was extended because of a Buffalo penalty on a third-down sack, and from that point to the end of the Cardinals' tenth drive, he went 16-of-20 for 159 yards and 12 first downs, plus a 5-yard DPI for another first down, with one sack. The ugly: from there till the end, Palmer went 7-of-17 for 111 yards and five first downs, but also four interceptions, two sacks, and one fumble.
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Sep 27, 2016 18:55
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sean10mm posted:Surprised Dak rated that highly, he looked good but I wasn't thinking THIS IS EPIC HOLY poo poo. It wasn't and will fall a lot once defensive adjustments go in because the Bears defense was completely passive and giving up everything short at all times. The average drive in the first half was basically Elliot runs for 5-9 yards, then they either run again or throw whatever pass they want to convert it and rinse and repeat until you're in the redzone.
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Sep 27, 2016 19:30
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Spiros posted:W--bu--wha---no I'm sorry for your loss. And the thirteen to come.
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Sep 27, 2016 22:25
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oof, that's rough.
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Sep 28, 2016 02:30
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JJ Watt placed on IR.
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Sep 28, 2016 02:46
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Players of the week: AFC: O: QB Trevor Siemian - 4 TD's against the Bengals D: CB Marcus Peters - Two ints in Ryan Fitzpatrick's very very bad day. ST: P Ryan Allen - 4 Punts inside the Houston 10, 0 return yards NFC: O: QB Carson Wentz - Took a big steaming poo poo on the Steelers D: DE Everson Griffen - Ate Cam Newton's soul. Hit him a bunch, sacked him twice ST: K Dustin Hopkins - gently caress if I know
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Sep 28, 2016 17:00
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Ehud posted:Rex Ryan owns He really does. I think he's proven he's not a very good head coach, but I kind of want him as a head coach with two great coordinators who do all the work and he's just there to give interviews and be fun. Like, can we make Jim Schwartz the real head coach while Rex gets to be the front man?
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Sep 28, 2016 18:24
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MacheteZombie posted:Does anyone know where I can find weekly offense team stats? I don't think they do weekly team stats, but you can for weekly player stats : http://www.nfl.com/stats/weeklyleaders?week=3&season=2016
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Sep 29, 2016 17:06
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Players of the Month for September: AFC: O: LeGarrette Blount - 75 carries, 295 yards, 4 TD's, and one cornerback hurdled this season. D: Von Miller - 5 sacks, 3 against Andrew Luck ST: Justin Tucker - 9 for 9 on FG's NFC: O: Matt Ryan - 7 TD's to 1 int, 71% completion percentage while torching the Saints and Raiders secondaries *cough* D: Fletcher Cox - 3 sacks, 2 against Roethlisberger ST: Dustin Hopkins - 11 for 11 on FG's. Rookie O: Carson Wentz - HoF D: Deion Jones - LB for the Falcons
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Sep 29, 2016 17:33
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WHOOPS posted:Based on the criteria for the AFC Defensive Player of the Month, Everson Griffen was screwed Oh the NFL doesn't release any criteria or notice. You'd think if you were doing this, you'd have a highlight package ready to go and have some talking heads go Wow, this guy! for a minute, but instead this is the entirety of what they release:  and leave it to PFT or local beatwriters to add in "oh yeah, Von Miller really pushed this guy's poo poo in this month" Kalli fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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Sep 29, 2016 18:08
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WHOOPS posted:
Seriously, how hard would it be to roll up on the NBA and poach away some of their fan engagement people?
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Sep 29, 2016 18:44
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Seems kind of obvious that cable is hemorrhaging subscribers and once you decide to cut cable, there's just a natural number of people who never bother to put up an antenna and then just wander away or are happy with reddit streams. Not sure if they're counted in viewership or even what they cost, but the cheapest online options are ESPN at $20 a month on Sling or NFLN + ESPN for like $30 on Playstation Vue, so if you're cutting cable and just want football, those aren't great prices either.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:48
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ice cold horchata posted:maybe there are more young people than old people and maybe young people like "fun" so maybe you should stop being the no fun league I can't imagine that resulting in anything but baseball's culture and no one under like 50 likes the MLB anymore.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:49
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In other news, Drew Bledsoe has a winemaker buddy of his named Josh McDaniels. It's like one of those Kennedy - Lincoln secretary coincidences.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:53
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:Speaking of, how's Manziel's sobriety going? Like the tide
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Sep 30, 2016 14:28
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fsif posted:I've been talking a lot of poo poo about Patriots fans this week and sometimes I feel a bit bad, because most of the regular Patriots posters here are the best. But like, what am I supposed to do when I see this on my Twitter feed?  At the end of the video, Brady invites people to visit Omaze.com/Boston to enter, then adds: “I can’t wait to meet you and tell you which one of these guys I actually like better.”
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Sep 30, 2016 15:33
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Word of Muth is on the Buccaneers this week: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2016/word-muth-tampa-twosomequote:One of the big reasons I wanted to cover Tampa Bay this year was to get a good look at their two second-year starters. One thing I've discovered writing this column for the past several years is that second-year guys are generally way more interesting to watch than rookies. Pretty much all rookie offensive linemen are below-average starters. Even the "good" ones who make Pro Bowls are overrated just because every writer and announcer knows who they are (usually they're first-round picks), and they actually are just good at some stuff (usually the stuff that requires a lot of athleticism) and bad at most everything else (knowing how much help to give, passing off stunts).
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Sep 30, 2016 16:19
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fsif posted:I'm anxiety barfing right now. Apparently he's been ruled out for Sunday.
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Sep 30, 2016 17:20
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Intruder posted:QB1: 67/107, 62.6%, 723 yards, 4 TD, 4 INT, 6.8 Y/A I know who one of them is just because of why you'd post it. But is the other either Eli Manning or Carson Palmer?
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Sep 30, 2016 18:07
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Grittybeard posted:QB3: 63/108, 58.3%, 809 yards, 5TD, 5 INT, 7.5 Y/A A bunch of nerd chat thinks that the piss poor state of a lot of offensive lines is resulting in this. And also Ryan Fitzpatrick,.
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Sep 30, 2016 18:13
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Huh, you know, usually NFL contract TRADE ideas have no prayer of working due to cap space and accelerated dead money and the age of the players involved. Joe Thomas is in year 5 of a 7 year deal, has zero future dead money, and is only being paid $10m for each of the next two years. Joe Thomas is on his age 31 year... there's a pretty drat good argument trading for him is worth a first round pick.
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Sep 30, 2016 20:51
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Blaine Gabbert isn't the worst at something: http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Check-on-checkdowns-Where-49ers-Gabbert-ranks-9516815.php?cmpid=twitter-desktop % of passes on 3rd down that result in a 1st down: Chopping off the parts no one cares about, the best QB's are at the top of course, Philip Rivers, Jimmy G, Stafford, Osweiler.... but as we head to the bottom we get: T21. Alex Smith, Chiefs: 60.0 (9-15) T21. Carson Wentz, Eagles: 60.0 (9-15) 23. Case Keenum, Rams: 57.2 (8-14) 24. Ryan Tannehill, Dolphins: 55.0 (11-20) 25. Tyrod Taylor, Bills: 53.8 (7-13) 26. Drew Brees, Saints: 52.9 (9-17) 27. Blaine Gabbert, 49ers: 47.1 (8-17) 28. Andy Dalton, Bengals: 45.8 (11-24) 29. Blake Bortles, Jaguars: 44.4 (8-18) 30. Sam Bradford, Vikings: 42.9 (6-14)
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Sep 30, 2016 21:47
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Intruder posted:(nods quietly to self) Can't kick a FG unless you wildly sail a pass on every 3rd down in the red zone.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:01
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Joe Thomas is a great dude and his dedication to the Browns is certaintly... incredible. That said, one has to presume that with the failed RG3 experiment, the nothings they have behind him and the utter despair that is the rest of their roster, that they will be drafting a quarterback next year. So in that sense, it makes sense to keep JT around, because, if he's happy with losing, having your rookie QB be able to stand in a nice pocket makes development a hell of a lot easier, just ask the Cowboys or Broncos this year. All I'm saying is that if they wanted to trade him, a first round pick actually sounds like something they could get. Kalli fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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Sep 30, 2016 22:04
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I mostly agree if they are going to go hard after a real franchise QB. But the thing is what is more valuable to a team attempting to rebuild: I agree they should stockpile picks, but at the same time, if Joe Thomas is really the mythological story we've been told who is happy in Cleveland and just wants to build a winner, then trading him could actually be significantly damaging to the locker room culture there, and that's gotta be a fragile loving place as is. Maybe he can be what Bruce Armstrong was to a young Drew Bledsoe for a few years. E: Holy crap, nevermind that Bruce Armstrong comparison, Bruce played until 2000? Kalli fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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Sep 30, 2016 22:09
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Tom Brady, Cam Newton among those heavily tied to human fighting ring.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:20
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WHOOPS posted:You mean football? Well that too I guess. Cam, Tom, Bob Kraft all bought a minority stake in the UFC along with Sylvester Stallone, Ben Affleck, Mark Wahlberg, Conan O’Brien, Jimmy Kimmel, Maria Sharapova, Serena Williams and Venus Williams.
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Forever_Peace posted:Nevermind apparently we're doing this instead. This guy can play, so someone should pick him up. He was just the odd man out with the Patriots having AJ Derby look pretty good as a ST guy as well as in the preseason.
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