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Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

goethe.cx posted:

What is with people and not naming the tv series

quote:

It involved a woman choosing to sleep with a man who was crippled. So the argument was that it perpetuates the idea that men are owed sex. Obviously that was not the context it was shown in, which she understood. But it happens so often she felt it was a misogynistic trope. Not exactly wrong, but obviously there are other ways to look at it if you take the series on it’s own.

any ideas?

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Ahhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

MasBrillante posted:

high probability of being raped every time we interact with men.

*extremely upset that a guy doesn't want me in his home*

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Pinecone Sample posted:

AITA for how I handled this coworker insulting me?

If OP suffers consequences she should sue the poo poo out of that company.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
If you bring someone a drink and they act wary because they didn't witness it's creation, the only proper response is to pick up the glass, knock the whole drink down in a single swig/chug, pop the glass back on the counter, then ask if they'd like one now.

If they refuse throw em out... because they're lame as hell!!!!

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Pick posted:

Ahhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo

Congrats on perpetuating a misogynistic trope

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.
Honestly mum in the kitten drowning story is the rear end in a top hat, if wife was too young to even remember the incident then she was far too young to be trusted with kittens unsupervised, or indeed to truly understand that it was possible to hurt them. Mum is just displacing her own guilt at letting the kittens be killed by a child incapable of knowing what she was doing by hating on the kid and never realising that's what she was doing.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

therobit posted:

The daughter is the only real victim here. While SIL didn't consent to being doxxed, she absolutely did consent to having her videos passed around and the negative social consequences that are affecting not only her, but this kid who is still in middle school. For practical reasons she shouldn't keep an online presence that is connected to her real name and family. She exposed her niece to this risk. The fact that people look down on adult film actors kind of sucks, but she's the adult here and should have taken steps to protect the rest of her family who are not involved in her career.

It doesn't look like her online presence was connected to her real name, though? It started because a kid looking up porn online recognized her and began telling everyone "Hey, this girl's hot aunt does porn! What a slut!"

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Pope Corky the IX posted:

So she should have left in the two minutes between turning down the drink and him kicking her out? Is that why she's the one at fault? Give me a loving break.

If she is legitimately concerned that there's a risk the host might rape her, yes? She's not at fault in that scenario - her being the bad guy here is that she implicitly accused her host (even if it was to her friend) and wanted to stick around his party after that. The weird suggestion seems to be to lie (a lot of comments about making up a fake excuse for not taking the drink) so she could stick around in a place where she was concerned about getting assaulted. Maybe the drink was the red flag, but turning down the one drink while staying in a potential predator's basement comes off as poor decision making at best, or being disingenuous about the concerns in the first place at worst.

In general, if someone does something that makes you feel unsafe, call them out for it and leave if they aren't apologetic for creating the situation. People that put you in danger just plain aren't worth being around, and it's unfortunate that women seem to have internalized that being at risk for assault is acceptable because of social reasons or whatever.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
You're weird as gently caress for continually finding reasons she was wrong for being apprehensive about a drink being thrust at her.

You're obviously a man.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If she is legitimately concerned that there's a risk the host might rape her, yes? She's not at fault in that scenario - her being the bad guy here is that she implicitly accused her host (even if it was to her friend) and wanted to stick around his party after that. The weird suggestion seems to be to lie (a lot of comments about making up a fake excuse for not taking the drink) so she could stick around in a place where she was concerned about getting assaulted. Maybe the drink was the red flag, but turning down the one drink while staying in a potential predator's basement comes off as poor decision making at best, or being disingenuous about the concerns in the first place at worst.

In general, if someone does something that makes you feel unsafe, call them out for it and leave if they aren't apologetic for creating the situation. People that put you in danger just plain aren't worth being around, and it's unfortunate that women seem to have internalized that being at risk for assault is acceptable because of social reasons or whatever.

this is some real beep boop poo poo regarding how humans behave in social situations

she's not at risk for assault if she doesn't take the drink, but the guy took her refusal of the drink as a mortal insult to his character

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I'm a different human than the one who made mistakes

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Pinecone Sample posted:

AITA for how I handled this coworker insulting me?

EDIT: HR want to see me about "creating a hostile work environment" so looks like someone reported either me or Jill or both

This could actually turn out ok for her if she keeps it together and can list the "jokes" that Jill was making along with the dates/times and witnesses.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

chitoryu12 posted:

It doesn't look like her online presence was connected to her real name, though? It started because a kid looking up porn online recognized her and began telling everyone "Hey, this girl's hot aunt does porn! What a slut!"

If she is a porn actress she shouldn't have a Facebook account out there with her real name and absolutely should not have that account connected to her niece, and if other kids saw that it was probably a public profile. It's pretty predictable that someone would recognize her at some point.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Chomp8645 posted:

If you bring someone a drink and they act wary because they didn't witness it's creation, the only proper response is to pick up the glass, knock the whole drink down in a single swig/chug, pop the glass back on the counter, then ask if they'd like one now.

If they refuse throw em out... because they're lame as hell!!!!

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If she is legitimately concerned that there's a risk the host might rape her, yes? She's not at fault in that scenario - her being the bad guy here is that she implicitly accused her host (even if it was to her friend) and wanted to stick around his party after that. The weird suggestion seems to be to lie (a lot of comments about making up a fake excuse for not taking the drink) so she could stick around in a place where she was concerned about getting assaulted. Maybe the drink was the red flag, but turning down the one drink while staying in a potential predator's basement comes off as poor decision making at best, or being disingenuous about the concerns in the first place at worst.

In general, if someone does something that makes you feel unsafe, call them out for it and leave if they aren't apologetic for creating the situation. People that put you in danger just plain aren't worth being around, and it's unfortunate that women seem to have internalized that being at risk for assault is acceptable because of social reasons or whatever.

She didn't want to make a bigger scene after he had already turned a quiet refusal into "You accuse me of being a rapist in my own home?!"

Besides, she's being cautious, not accusing the host of being a rapist. Those were his words and she only agreed with him once he forced it out of her in front of people.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Women are socialized to think that it isn’t a big deal to make a scene or stand up for themselves. If I were in her position I would have simply used logic and left my friends at the party

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

therobit posted:

If she is a porn actress she shouldn't have a Facebook account out there with her real name and absolutely should not have that account connected to her niece, and if other kids saw that it was probably a public profile. It's pretty predictable that someone would recognize her at some point.

So what, if you do porn you need to hide from society so nobody will ever know who you are?

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
Live under a bridge subsisting entirely on meth like Jennie Lee. There was a reddit thread about it the other day.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

AITA for telling my coworkers not to start rumours about me?

So last week I called in sick for a shift on Friday. The night before I was having a rough go, my mental state wasn’t the best, basically I was having a sad bitch kinda night and didn’t feel mentally, emotionally (or even physically) okay to go in for my shift. I called in, asked for the day off so I could come back to work the next day feeling refreshed. Everything seemed to be fine, my manager wasn’t upset, my shift was covered and blah blah blah.

Now two days ago while I was at work, one of my supervisors told me that someone told her I was out drinking Thursday night, hence the sick day Friday. I was upset because I didn’t think I should have to explain anything to anyone— it was covered, I needed the day off. She told me that she “wasn’t going to tell” me who said it.

There’s only a couple of young people who work there. Two of them are especially gossipy and it’s on ongoing joke that they do so. I asked one of the girls, I said: “Supervisor said someone told her I was downtown drinking thursday night. I don’t know if it was you or X or who it was, but I would appreciate it if no one said anything about me that isn’t true. I wouldn’t be upset if it was true, yada yada”. She said it wasn’t her, I was like okay, thank you. That was all.

NOW. I just went in to pick up my cheque. Supervisor comes up to me.

“Brokebadbitch, I heard you were going around asking people who said that about you. You can’t be doing that just because I told you what someone said. “

“Supervisor, if someone is talking about me I have every right to tell people I don’t appreciate it. I couldn’t tell them specifically because you wouldn’t say who it was”

“That’s because I was lying to see if you were actually drinking”

“So you lied to me and now you can’t handle the consequences of the lie”

and it went on like this with her thinking that I was petty for going around and asking, and of course I think she’s CRAZY (she’s a 40 year old woman, i’m 22) for starting a rumour ABOUT ME, TO ME.

Who is the rear end in a top hat here?

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

AITA for stranding my daughter because I was on drugs?

29M, ex-wife is 28F. We divorced when our daughter was 2 but she's 8 now. It was amicable, at least as amicable as divorces get. We have split custody, I'm on weekends as my ex-wife lives closer to her school.

I take some recreational drugs sometimes. Never when my daughter is home, in fact, never when I think there's even a possibility of her being home with me. My drug use is limited to psychedelics and marijuana, never opiates or anything that puts me or others in danger.

Last week Tuesday I took some 4-AcO-DMT, a psychedelic that metabolizes into psilocybin when ingested. Mushrooms, basically. It lasts anywhere 4-6hr with onset after 45min or so. I took it at 2PM.

At 3PM, when the effects are starting to take hold, I get a call from my ex-wife. She had an emergency at work and needed me to pick our daughter up from school. She needed me to pick her up, keep her until 8PM or so, then she'll come get her from my place. It's about a 20 minute drive there and back.

I told her "no", without much reasoning behind it other than I can't. For starters, it's irresponsible to use a vehicle at the cusp of my come up. And second, I don't want my daughter to see me like this, nor do I feel like I could handle the responsibility. Lastly, it's my ex-wife's responsibility to pick our daughter up. If I was sober, I would have, but I wasn't, and it wasn't my job to do it to begin with. I had to tell her no. She hung up on me.

I phoned her back, she skipped the call. I left a voicemail explaining I'm out of city right now and truly can't. I even Facebook messaged her this, got the read receipt, but no reply. It turns out my daughter waited at school for 3 hours before she came and got her. She didn't find alternative arrangements to pick her up. Everyone is mad at me: my ex-wife, my daughter, the school.

Was I the rear end in a top hat here? If I went to pick her up, I could have been killed in a MVA. My daughter could have been killed. And it would have been my fault, so I opted to not do that, obviously.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof
All porn stars should wear Lucha Libre masks in porn films to retain their anonymity in the real world.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If she is legitimately concerned that there's a risk the host might rape her, yes? She's not at fault in that scenario - her being the bad guy here is that she implicitly accused her host (even if it was to her friend) and wanted to stick around his party after that. The weird suggestion seems to be to lie (a lot of comments about making up a fake excuse for not taking the drink) so she could stick around in a place where she was concerned about getting assaulted. Maybe the drink was the red flag, but turning down the one drink while staying in a potential predator's basement comes off as poor decision making at best, or being disingenuous about the concerns in the first place at worst.

In general, if someone does something that makes you feel unsafe, call them out for it and leave if they aren't apologetic for creating the situation. People that put you in danger just plain aren't worth being around, and it's unfortunate that women seem to have internalized that being at risk for assault is acceptable because of social reasons or whatever.

she already implicitly accused him of being a car thief by locking her car when she parked it at her house. frankly I'm surprised he let her inside his house at all after such an insult.

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

ZZ for short


Pick posted:

It's like how pride parades have done jack poo poo in the last 20 years to make straight people think homosexuals aren't just a horny pain in the rear end. It's not fair but the rules were written by the power brokers.

Thank you, pick. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. I never realized that us gay people are making ourselves look bad with pride parade. All these years I’ve wondered, why has the gay rights movement been stalling? Why, after gay marriage has become legal, do we still face discrimination? Why are there still so many gay stereotypes in the media? Why do corporations adapt our language, put on a rainbow flag, and then change absolutely nothing else? Why has the trump administration been rolling back our rights, and why does the Vice President want to shock us straight? It’s because we’re all horny pains in the asses with our pride parades. It’s so simple. Maybe if we just learn to work within the power structure, we can finally overcome all this.

Thank you, pick. You are a saint.

Thank you so, so much.

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy
He was 100% a douchebag about it. Also, I misread and for some reason thought he made her a drink she'd already had at his house, not the drink she'd ordered at the bar. I would have reacted the same way she did. Paying attention to the drinks you made people and making another when you see their glass is empty is one thing. Memorizing every drink people had at a bar and immediately making them for them as soon as you get back to your place is weird.

Edit: kitten wife was like 5 or under when she brought those kittens to the pond. Mom is lucky she didn't drown herself. Mom ita

Araenna fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Aug 15, 2019

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
I especially like the line about jack poo poo happening with gay rights in the last 20 years.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If she is legitimately concerned that there's a risk the host might rape her, yes? She's not at fault in that scenario - her being the bad guy here is that she implicitly accused her host (even if it was to her friend) and wanted to stick around his party after that. The weird suggestion seems to be to lie (a lot of comments about making up a fake excuse for not taking the drink) so she could stick around in a place where she was concerned about getting assaulted. Maybe the drink was the red flag, but turning down the one drink while staying in a potential predator's basement comes off as poor decision making at best, or being disingenuous about the concerns in the first place at worst.

In general, if someone does something that makes you feel unsafe, call them out for it and leave if they aren't apologetic for creating the situation. People that put you in danger just plain aren't worth being around, and it's unfortunate that women seem to have internalized that being at risk for assault is acceptable because of social reasons or whatever.

bad post

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I've only dated women so yeah I'm allowed to talk about my POV on that one at least

Pride parades were an obstacle, Neil Patrick Harris being a bland stable attractive white man did more just by having good teeth.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

chitoryu12 posted:

So what, if you do porn you need to hide from society so nobody will ever know who you are?

Don't friend your middle school aged niece on Facebook so she isn't exposed to that risk?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
It's like telling a tattoo addict that yes actually they do affect your employment prospects

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

Pick posted:

I've only dated women so yeah I'm allowed to talk about my POV on that one at least

Pride parades were an obstacle, Neil Patrick Harris being a bland stable attractive white man did more just by having good teeth.

Doesn't make you less wrong

Edit^: no it isn't

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

ZZ for short


Pick posted:

I've only dated women so yeah I'm allowed to talk about my POV on that one at least

And I’m allowed to call you a loving jackass moron

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Maybe you guys would know some of how society feels if you ever talked to people outside your exact political and age demographics

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

therobit posted:

Don't friend your middle school aged niece on Facebook so she isn't exposed to that risk?
Oh god the shame!

She should get the girls to call the guy gross because he watches porn. Problem solved.

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

ZZ for short


Pick posted:

Maybe you guys would know some of how society feels if you ever talked to people outside your exact political and age demographics

You loving jackass moron

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

WIBTA for wearing green to this wedding?

My partner’s sister is getting married and he is a groomsman while I am just a guest. A few weeks ago, I asked my partner’s sister (P) and her fiancé (S) what colours to avoid wearing to the wedding, such as their theme colours and bridesmaid colours etc. They said they didn’t have theme colours, but the bridesmaids are in bronzey champagne and the groomsmen are in pale tan colour. Sweet. I went dress shopping, and found a beautiful emerald green dress. It was on sale but still a little pricey, but I fell in love with it, so I bought it! This past weekend, we were staying with P & S and P mentioned that she doesn’t want anyone wearing black at her wedding or want any hint of black at all. I was nodding along, until S said “yeah, and if anyone wears green, I’ll lose my sh*t”. When I asked why, it turns out that his suit is a particular shade of forest green that he’s getting custom-made, and he wants to be the only person wearing green, like how no one else wears white out of respect for the bride. Fair.

When I asked if other shades of green would be okay, he said that he would feel like his day was ruined if anyone wore any green of any shade at all. I can’t return my dress, and I’ve been panic-searching all week and I can’t find anything similar in a different colour, or anything that I like enough to drop $$ on it. It hasn’t been mentioned on any invitations or any announcements not to wear green, so surely there may be others? Would I be the rear end in a top hat for wearing this dress?

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

Pick posted:

Maybe you guys would know some of how society feels if you ever talked to people outside your exact political and age demographics

lol I'm poor disabled and very visibly trans gently caress off

Xombie
May 22, 2004

Soul Thrashing
Black Sorcery

chitoryu12 posted:

So what, if you do porn you need to hide from society so nobody will ever know who you are?

If you have a job as a public figure you inherently risk the family and friends in your private life being judged based on your actions as a public figure. Unless of course you take actions to make sure that your public life does not bleed into your private life. Surprisingly enough, if you don't take those actions and your family and friends receive consequences that they didn't ask for, they might just resent you for it.

The only person who isn't an rear end in a top hat in this situation is the 14 year old, who didn't get a chance to protect herself from the bullying since the possible consequences of posting a picture of her aunt were hidden from her.

Xombie fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Aug 15, 2019

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

AITA for reporting my son’s terrible school bus driver?

My son is 14 years old and severely autistic. The school that he goes to does not provide school busses just for special needs children, so he rides the same bus as the rest of the other kids in our neighborhood. The school year started two weeks ago and this is the first time he’s been riding the bus. In the years past, I drove him to and from school, but with my schedule this year, just dropping off and picking him up from the bus stop is much more convenient.

Two weeks ago, on the first day of school, I introduced myself to the bus driver and asked that he keep the bus as quiet as possible, since loud noises lead to my son getting upset or having meltdowns. He said he would “try his best”.

That afternoon, my son became agitated during the bus ride home and refused to get off the bus at his stop. I had to get on the bus and calm him down in order to get him off. The bus driver glared at me as we were getting off the bus, and I said “if you’re going to be mad at anybody, it should be yourself. I told you to keep the bus quiet.”

After that, every morning and afternoon the bus driver glares/frowns at me. In contrast, he greets all the other kids and their parents in a very cheerful and friendly way.

I called the school and told them about the bus driver being so rude, and they said they would “look into it.” After a couple more days, he hadn’t stopped with the dirty looks, so I called a few more times and they said that “nobody has ever had any problems with that bus driver and many people say that he’s the best one at the school” (Which I sincerely doubt).

I mentioned the issue to my neighbor, who has two children that ride the same bus as my son, and she said that I am completely unreasonable, that the bus driver is “the nicest guy you’ll ever meet“ and that her children say my son is “extremely disruptive” on the bus and that she thinks he shouldn’t be riding the bus. Obviously this made me angry, because my son has just as much of a right to ride the bus as her kids.

AITA?

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Pick posted:

I've only dated women so yeah I'm allowed to talk about my POV on that one at least

Pride parades were an obstacle, Neil Patrick Harris being a bland stable attractive white man did more just by having good teeth.

Your opinions on relationships have included stuff like "Everyone hits their partner once or twice, it's okay." Your POV is that of a crazy person who can't figure out why other people are different.

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