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computer parts posted:#4 is the root of the other two. Like there's no serious way you can justify #2 without saying at some point "well sure she says progressive things but I don't believe her". Some people make the association between policy and political ideology, #4 from the left comes from the suspicion that she's ideologically a closet conservative. Dead Cosmonaut fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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icantfindaname posted:Hillary has a much longer record of crap than Obama did (none), plus the far-left decided to make 2016 a rebellion on general principle and to lay the complete package of grievances they've had with neoliberalism over the past 35 years on her. As for why 2016 I don't think there's a simple answer, the causes of phenomena like that are a lot more complicated. And then as for the mass of squishy vaguely left-liberal moderates who form the bulk of the party her lack of charisma is a major factor, plus the double effect of Republicans attacking her and the left boycotting her, none of which really Obama had to deal with. I think the refusal of the left to cooperate has actually hurt enthusiasm for her in the base by a lot Obama frequently had attacks from the left. And The Daily Beast is a joke. A lot of Bernie's supporters are voting for her.
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I look forward to more sweet tears from The Daily Beast next time Corbyn wins agains one of their neoliberal darlings.
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Oct 4, 2016 13:48
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Mel Mudkiper posted:we can't all start the revolution whining from our bedrooms bro Karl Marx did
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computer parts posted:So why are you opposed to them supporting Sisi? After all, he's keeping those dreaded Islamic Fundamentalists out of power too. Hell, lots of those dictators fall under that same designation. I wouldn't toss the Muslim Brotherhood in the same lot with Al-Nusra or ISIS, unless I was trying really hard to be disingenuous.
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Obama didn't give two shits about Islamists in Egypt and did it to suck Israel's dick. Remember all of the vague threats coming from the other side of the Sinai when it happened?
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Oct 4, 2016 22:13
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computer parts posted:So why did you list Morsi as a dictator supported by the US? He satisfied regional US (Israeli) interests
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Oct 4, 2016 22:15
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Bip Roberts posted:hilldawg haters have a problem with every part of american politics/governance so it's all fair game There are plenty of things wrong with our political system. Big money in politics is a big one.
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