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Wilford Cutlery posted:Wasn't he the Bears DC with Trestman? Special Teams
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WHY ARE NFL RATINGS DOWN? THE LEAGUE’S GREED HAS FINALLY CAUGHT UP TO ITquote:No matter how big the NFL’s TV ratings and money haul were in recent years, it never seemed good enough for The Shield. Commissioner Roger Goodell openly stated in 2010 that his goal was to grow league revenue from $8.5 billion to $25 billion by the year 2027. That’s an average of almost $1 billion in additional revenue per year. As a result, the league and its owners have consistently squeezed every last dime out of its fans in the last decade at the expense of the game itself.
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Oct 10, 2016 23:37
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I agree with all of that except the SB 50 being the worst played SB was this person like not alive in 2005 for Steelers/Seahawks because gently caress. SB50 was fantastic, as long as you appreciate defense. Saying it was the worst game ever played is kind of an insult to all the defensive players.
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Oct 10, 2016 23:43
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Yeah it wasn't a great one but it was by no means terrible
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Oct 10, 2016 23:44
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actually it's because the blacks are disrespecting our national anthem
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I also don't think rookie salary caps are the worst thing in the world. Maybe there's a balance that needs to be struck, but I can definitely remember everyone saying how out of hand it was getting around the time when Sam Bradford was being signed for more money than Peyton Manning having never played a down in the NFL.
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Isn't there a sizable NFL following in Mexico making it the obvious choice for international expansion? I remember some south American country also has an inexplicable following to.
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Febreeze posted:was this person like not alive in 2005 for Steelers/Seahawks because gently caress. SB50 was fantastic, as long as you appreciate defense. Saying it was the worst game ever played is kind of an insult to all the defensive players. The Super Bowl was generally a terrible game all throughout the 80s and 90s other than a year here and there. The 49ers beat the Broncos by 45 points in 1990. Maybe this guy is under 26 or maybe he thinks one team being good makes a game well played, I'm not sure which. I'll take the bum fight every time, although like you said that was not what went on last year.
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Blarfk posted:I also don't think rookie salary caps are the worst thing in the world. Maybe there's a balance that needs to be struck, but I can definitely remember everyone saying how out of hand it was getting around the time when Sam Bradford was being signed for more money than Peyton Manning having never played a down in the NFL. I definitely was on the side of rookie wage scales when it came out for this reason. What did Stafford do to earn that paycheck? Bradford? Nothing really. And teams were essentially handicapping their salary cap for completely unproven rookies so you can't really build around the rookie using leftover money and if you ended up with a bust that was a huge amount of money wasted. I didn't expect this extreme youth favoritism to be a side effect though, I'll admit that.
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Oct 11, 2016 00:03
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Hasnt a coach blamed the general poo poo play around the league on the new practice restrictions? Cant get up to game speed if you cant play at that speed all week.
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Seems more likely that the further divergence of college and pro playing styles, combined with severely limited practice schedules would have way more of effect on the on-field product than the rookie wage scale, but what do I know?
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Oct 11, 2016 00:21
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Febreeze posted:I definitely was on the side of rookie wage scales when it came out for this reason. What did Stafford do to earn that paycheck? Bradford? Nothing really. And teams were essentially handicapping their salary cap for completely unproven rookies so you can't really build around the rookie using leftover money and if you ended up with a bust that was a huge amount of money wasted. I didn't expect this extreme youth favoritism to be a side effect though, I'll admit that. To be fair on the Stafford and Bradford front...what has any rookie done to earn the NFL paycheck? The draft is a crapshoot and every year "can't miss" prospects miss. How do you get around that though? Decrease rookie salaries even more? Farm systems?
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Oct 11, 2016 00:23
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i didnt read all of that did he mention the constant barrage of garbage primetime games cause holy poo poo i cant even remember the last good one.
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Grittybeard posted:Maybe this guy is under 26 That appears to be the case. https://twitter.com/jimmweber?lang=en 
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Oct 11, 2016 00:26
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The Bears/Colts Superbowl was pretty lovely too. The Bears might as well have been labeled "opponent".
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Oct 11, 2016 00:30
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It was lovely because the wrong AFC team was there
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Oct 11, 2016 00:32
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the bears would have been destroyed by every single afc playoff team that year, man what a bad team
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weird Asian candy posted:To be fair on the Stafford and Bradford front...what has any rookie done to earn the NFL paycheck? The draft is a crapshoot and every year "can't miss" prospects miss. The NFL has to pay their rookie players because they are being invested in. But just like a company wouldn't pay it's new hires the same wages as longtime veterans and managers, neither should the NFL, really. But Stafford and Such was basically like hiring a new guy and having him suddenly be the highest paid employee on the floor because he had a nice degree. Ghost Dog posted:i didnt read all of that did he mention the constant barrage of garbage primetime games cause holy poo poo i cant even remember the last good one. Bills/Jets was good fun, but everything else has sucked
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Febreeze posted:I definitely was on the side of rookie wage scales when it came out for this reason. What did Stafford do to earn that paycheck? Bradford? Nothing really. They've worked and honed their craft for 7-8 years at the highest level available to them, and possess a natural skill set that's extremely rare? Seriously, there's like 20 people in the world that can play the most important position at the highest level of maybe the most valuable sport in the world. Detroit wasn't bad because they drafted in the top five for like a decade straight; they were lovely because they hired rear end coaches, they couldn't draft for poo poo, and they let Matt Millen run them into the ground.  rookie wage scale was an absolute crock of poo poo that was NBA-esque in how much it was the owners begging the management to save them from themselves, hasn't even stopped owners from loving over draftees, and the players union hosed up by supporting it.
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yeah it was nonsense but draftees are not represented by the nflpa so its pretty natural they would get hosed.
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weird Asian candy posted:To be fair on the Stafford and Bradford front...what has any rookie done to earn the NFL paycheck? The draft is a crapshoot and every year "can't miss" prospects miss. I don't think you should have to "earn" a contract by playing in the league for years. Stafford and Bradford had talent and potential which has value. Perhaps those teams paid too much for that potential but that's a decision a team has to make on their own. The league shouldn't protect teams from themselves or mitigate risk. Getting rid of the rookie scale contracts wouldn't be a disaster. Teams have gotten much smarter over the years. We've seen the league adjust as to what they value running backs. I think you'd see them adjust to how they value draft picks as well. Teams would perhaps work out deals in advance and be more willing to part with picks if they weren't willing to take the risk. As for the draft being a crapshoot, I'd say that free agency isn't that much better. With injuries being so prevalent, your big free agent signing could blow out his knee in training camp and never be the same again. They may fail to adapt to your system. There have been some terrible free agency signings over the years.
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weird Asian candy posted:Special Teams Yeah this was it. I remember Bears fans shutting on him because he was a big drop off from Toub I had no idea about the stadium collapsing on him tho. Lol
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"As noted by The Ringer..." I'm very skeptical about the claim that the quality of the game being played corresponds to ratings. That may be true of the ratings for certain teams but I don't think there is an overall measurable difference between the present and the supposed halcyon era of "good games."
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Niwrad posted:I don't think you should have to "earn" a contract by playing in the league for years. Stafford and Bradford had talent and potential which has value. Perhaps those teams paid too much for that potential but that's a decision a team has to make on their own. The league shouldn't protect teams from themselves or mitigate risk. One thing I've always thought was bad about the rookie scale was how long some of the contracts were. Players shouldn't be playing for five years on their rookie contract. It should be three years at most. That's enough time to exhibit whether or not the player is a bust and is worth further (and greater) monetary investment.
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Brannock posted:One thing I've always thought was bad about the rookie scale was how long some of the contracts were. Players shouldn't be playing for five years on their rookie contract. It should be three years at most. That's enough time to exhibit whether or not the player is a bust and is worth further (and greater) monetary investment. Isn't the length of the contract based on what round your drafted in? 1st Round is: 4 Years with 5th Year Team option that is based on average contracts of the top 12 players at that position? The first 4 years are way below league average but good players usually get their pay days.
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i know what side we're on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBJUHfYuZ9I go ralders
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Jesus I just saw how many fins were injured and out of Tennessee. No wonder we got our asses beat holy god
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https://twitter.com/armandosalguero/status/785604030131077125 apparently his neck injury is career threatening
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Week 6 N/V: An Everlasting Battle on the Astroturf of Our Souls
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Amy Pole Her posted:Jesus I just saw how many fins were injured and out of Tennessee. Yeah. We were down seven starters.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Jesus I just saw how many fins were injured and out of Tennessee. Just couldn't handle the exotic smashmouth
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Kalli posted:I hadn't watched any of the Texans game, so thought the anti-Osweiler hysteria was getting a bit crazy considering it was the Vikings.
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Ehud posted:Yeah. We were down seven starters. Are you taking any solace in the fact that Lamar Miller isn't really tearing anything up in Houston?
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Are you taking any solace in the fact that Lamar Miller isn't really tearing anything up in Houston? joe philbin was....right?
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Bills upcoming schedule 49ers @Dolphins Patriots Patriots upcoming schedule Bengals @Steelers @Bills It's certainly possible that when the Patriots go to Buffalo that the Bills are in charge of the division.
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Ehud posted:Yeah. We were down seven starters. And some of them, I assume, are good players.
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Brain Curry posted:And some of them, I assume, are good players. Tunsil is good Albert is still decent Misi is average at best Jenkins sucks this year Howard is probably our best corner and he's a rookie Cameron blows Foster is good
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:It's certainly possible that when the Patriots go to Buffalo that the Bills are in charge of the division. Give Rex Ryan head coach for life if he sweeps the Patriots and wins the division, imo
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Ehud posted:Tunsil is good Foster's body is comprised of cotton candy and glass. Dude can go when the stars align, but his natural state is on IR.
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