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Taerkar posted:A catastrophic loss by the GOP will do a lot more to advance progressive ideas in this country than any number of votes for vanity parties. Why would the D team promote more progressive ideas if they know they have the left wing vote in the bag? The rich people who run the party would instead look to get more right-wing voters by putting in right-wing policy.
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stone cold posted:Maybe if this were the gilded age that would be a position to take. But you cannot convince me that the democrats and the republicans are equally bad, and that's been a dumb stance to take since about, oh, the enaction of the Southern Strategy. It's your duty to ensure the sucess of the Party.
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Oct 13, 2016 12:55
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I'm totally going to push the democratic party left by writing letters that get read and tossed by some staffer! Yeah! I did it!
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Oct 14, 2016 11:57
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vas0line posted:This is how it's been going lately. My friends and family are taking this stance. It's a shame that we've come to attacking each other's characters for not supporting the same candidate. The authoritarian tone of this thread is astounding. It's your DUTY to vote for Clinton and support her because WE NEED A HUGE WIN because then the Democrats will win forever and ever and then, after all that, they'll do leftist things. The Party cannot fail, it can only be failed. And saying that a critique of Hillary is misogynistic treads on the same lines that any criticism of Margaret Thatcher is misogynistic.
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Oct 17, 2016 12:08
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NewForumSoftware posted:Can I ask you a serious question? Why do you hate women? I mean, Candidate Obama vs President Obama were very different things, and there's no reason to believe Hillary's any different. I'm not voting for Trump unless somehow you consider not contributing to a Democratic victory lap voting for trump.
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Oct 18, 2016 10:34
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I read the excerpts from the goldman sachs speeches and they imply a pretty right wing economic policy.
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Oct 19, 2016 18:02
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Shillary basically told goldman sachs she wants to reduce regulations on wall street and thinks they should pay less taxes but instead we should have faith in vague campaign promises.
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Oct 25, 2016 16:24
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vintagepurple posted:As opposed to? That's a pretty no-win question, isn't it?
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Oct 25, 2016 19:16
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Note that shillary does not want glass steagal to return or for Taft-Hartley to be repealed.
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Oct 26, 2016 14:40
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Maybe Hillary will surprise me, but I doubt it. Dodd-Frank was weak stuff and will pretty much allow another crash to happen in the next eight years because it has not solved any of the fundamental problems. And if you want organized labor to be a thing in the US again you have to get rid of Taft-Hartley so that they can actually use a full range of tactics instead of the absolutely gimpy set they have now.
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Oct 27, 2016 12:32
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twodot posted:No. No one should vote for Gary Johnson. Actually encouraging Gary Johnson votes is good because he siphons off the trump electorate more than the Shillary electorate.
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Nov 4, 2016 13:17
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When is the Democratic party going to be purged of Pro-Wall Street elements? Only then will I vote for it.
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Nov 6, 2016 00:46
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:the most important things to my fragile triggered mind are the supreme court, the paris accords, public education, the economy and healthcare, and i'd rather not spend 4 years systematically dismantling all of these things like trump keeps explicitly saying he's going to do. All of these ol' shill will do only in terms that her wall street bankers find acceptable.
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Nov 6, 2016 03:33
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SSNeoman posted:No, whenever I hear this criticism for like Obama, it's always "the lobbyists are creating so much obstruction that the President has his hands tied!" Were you even there when there was campaign obama vs real obama? She was paid by Goldman Sachs, and then there's what she actually said to Goldman Sachs. She said she was brave not to go after them after 2008 and they applauded. This is not someone who is going to do anything they don't like.
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Nov 6, 2016 18:00
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Who What Now posted:What do you think voting third party does? You've never been to clear about that. Not sure what a Hillary vote does, either, with regard to lobbying and the effect of moneyed interests in public policy.
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Nov 7, 2016 01:11
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Condiv posted:i threw my vote to gloria la riva As did I.
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Nov 8, 2016 23:41
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Who What Now posted:The third parties are worse than Trump. Better the PSL than shillary.
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Nov 9, 2016 20:52
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I like how things suddenly became about people being able to fail a politician rather than the other way around.
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SSNeoman posted:The woman did everything right. She ran the campaign literally as well as it could possibly go. I cannot find a single flaw in the way she ran it besides The Pragmatic, supremely good Politician. She was perfect! 
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