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Febreeze posted:Giants offense would be a lot better if we had tackles worth a poo poo, pretty much all the problems stem from that Giants pass blocking is still stellar it's that the run blocking is dirty aids water. Giants have no run game to speak of both in the RBs and the blocking so there's zero clock control. Giants defense has been incredible for how much time they're stuck on the field each game.
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Febreeze posted:How can you watch the tackles we have and think we're good at pass blocking? I mean at one point against the Ravens Flowers basically let Suggs walk right into Manning so easily Suggs tore his bicep out of surprise. I don't think it's a coincidence that the 3 teams we've beaten have been the 3 teams with the inferior d-lines. Dallas can't rush the passer. Saints defense is terrible. Vikings and Skins have good to great D-lines, and so does the Packers, who we should have passed all over but Eli was forcing errant passes because he was instantly swarmed. Because they're top 5 rated in football outsiders and have had pretty good games up until the Packers game. They're also in the top half of the league in sacks, pressures, and hurries allowed. Like Eli gets hit a lot, but that's true of every QB in the league right now, and comparatively Eli gets hit much less. The run blocking really is the problem. Flowers is a completely lovely run blocker and is only a middling pass blocker and seems to be the sore thumb on an otherwise really good offensive line. The run game is so pathetic and we could have had Todd Gurley which stings like a mother fucker.
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Iodised QQ posted:Because Eli throws the ball into the dirt when he even faces a lick of pressure. FO's top notch offensive line pass blocking grading is based off of sacks/dropbacks. That's it. It's loving terrible. Yeah FO does sacks only but the point still stands that Eli is one of the least pressured and least hit QBs in the league: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&role=TM&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_QBHIT Sure he fires ducks to avoid pressure but every single QB in the league does that too. Jeeze guys just be happy that our pass blocking is actually good compared to the rest of the league. I don't think they were nearly as bad as you or Febreeze are describing in most of the games this year outside the Packers and Redskins game. And even the Redskins game was a complete fall apart team effort. The real problem really is that there's just no ground game to speak of and any problems on offense kinda stem from that.
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Febreeze posted:So this division has Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, and John Mara in it All three actively employ wife beaters and so even under public pressure. I mean the Maras are old school families but I didn't think they were that old school
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Shinjobi posted:Romo could very well be the best QB the Cowboys ever had, No.
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Oct 23, 2016 05:34
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The public perception in the NFL is ridiculous now. When the Redskins were 0-2 there was some intense doomsaying going on by media outlets and a lot of twitter reporters talking about how the entire locker room hates Cousins. Winning is everything but it seems like just a few years ago the public would at least wait til a team was 0-5 before freaking out.
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Things you look for in a QB prospect: 1. His arm strength. How far can he throw? 2. His accuracy. Can he place the ball anywhere on the field? 3. His precision. Can he place the ball in a specific spot when he throws there? 4. His girlfriend. Is she hot enough for a NFL QB? 5. His stance on the National Anthem. Does he capitalize National Anthem when he types it out? 6. His footwork. Is he able to consistently do proper step drops into a quick delivery? 7. His neckbeard. How thick and coarse is it? 8. His delivery. Is there a hitch in it or is it a smooth transition? 9. His support of Donald Trump. Is it true or just ironic? 10. His ability to read progressions. Does he favor one side of the field?
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Febreeze posted:I know the rest of the post has jokes but I can't tell if this was one, please elaborate the difference  Bottom right are your Tom Bradys and Peyton Mannings. Bottom left are your Marinos, Rivers, and Romos. Top right are your scattergun QBs like Cutler or Favre. Top left are your favorite insert busts here: ______
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Oct 30, 2016 04:10
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eli is high accuracy high precision you turd how dare you besmirch our gooberlord
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Oct 30, 2016 05:08
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Honestly I was disappointed that both teams didn't win. There needs to be a reverse-tie but only for NFC East teams which are clearly God's chosen teams
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MrLogan posted:NFCE combined record: 18-10-1. 0.638 winning %. holy gently caress this is the most offensive post in this thread of all places
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Nov 1, 2016 03:12
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The Jersey Turnpike takes you on a 4 hour scenic tour of every craphole industrial city in NJ so thats what pretty much everyone sees. Most of NJ is farmland and rolling hills of forest. Philadelphia and NYC both cause some pretty big urban sprawl in the Northeast and Southwest but for the most part living here is pretty great and convenient.
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Nov 4, 2016 06:33
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sounds like a lot of butt hurt non new jerseyian non giants fans here acting like we dont actually got the best pizza ever
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blue squares posted:gently caress you Doltos!!! Im going to leave the other thread open as a warning just in case you try acting up again
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Jota posted:His ball placement wasn't that great all game but he obviously improved from the first two possessions. Giants defense looked good but their run defense against speedy RBs got exposed. Giants offense once again is lost in a mire of trying to force the run when it isn't there and won't be there because our giant 6'6 behemoth LT can't run block worth a poo poo and the below league replacement RT predictably sucks. Just trade for Joe Thomas already!!!
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NattyBo posted:Having the entire division being above average to really good kinda owns. I actively root for a meteor to hit the stadium whenever the rest of the NFC East plays but then am pleasantly happy after they add another win to this glorious division
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the nfc east bitch
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Cash Monet posted:Would've bet on NFC North. Stupid Texas dragging down the NFC East.
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Nov 15, 2016 21:11
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Nodoze posted:Kirk Cousins is better than Eli Manning. There I said it 
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Nov 16, 2016 06:23
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axeil posted:The 2007 Pats didn't beat the Giants in the Super Bowl. The better team doesn't always win. You Eagles fans sure know how to push my buttons For real tho the 2007 Giants were better than the 2007 Pats and the only reason they didn't win week 17 too was cus of a bad game plan that they fixed right the gently caress up in time to bring back a championship trophy!!
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indigi posted:epic username/post combo I wish there was a way to see if the 2007 Giants were better than the 2007 Patriots. Perhaps if they played each other or something. I dunno.
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Grittybeard posted:Looks like they were 1-1 to me. So definitively not better at least. Like week 17 matters!!
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Nov 17, 2016 19:23
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I think Dak is quality. He pinpoints guys and makes deliberate throws. Good pocket awareness and the offense is built to suit him. He'll win games and lose games but at this point in his career he does what Romo is limited to doing and does it better. I really wonder how Eli is going to perform over the next few years because whatever Giants QB comes in has to compete with some pretty decent young guys in Wentz, Cousins, and Dak.
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My plan for the NFL season involves two bye weeks, two less weeks of preseason, and expanded season which goes into late February and has the Super Bowl in the first week of March, and removal of Thursday night games. Two bye weeks would enable more resting time and eliminate the unfairness of an early bye week, two less weeks of preseason would remove unnecessary games but would probably have to come with expanded rosters, the expanded season would add two weeks to the end thus making it an 18 game season and improving ticket sales for owners, plus giving the first week of March a known branding of Super Bowl week, and the removal of Thursday night games would solve short week problems.
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Wellington Mara and all of his genealogy are flawless
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Nov 19, 2016 06:11
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I'm really ashamed that a division as glorious as this has to house a team like the iggles
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Nov 21, 2016 02:26
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It's gonna be another tie
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Grittybeard posted:Honestly don't care, you're joking about riding the Cowboys coattails or you're serious about it. Either is painfully awful for any team in the NFL, but particularly for any NFC East team. lmao who cares I hate the rest of the NFC East but it's fun that the entire division is playing above .500 ball
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Nov 27, 2016 05:52
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Grittybeard posted:If there's one guy here who wears Giants blinders who has an unimaginable hatred in his heart for other NFC East teams I would have put money on you Daltos. It's like I don't even know you anymore. I have and will never be a Giants homer. I'm a Football Realist.
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blue squares posted:The giants went 3 and out against the Browns. Imagine how fun this thread will be if they lose us giants fans sure are gonna be steamed!!
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WHY ARE THERE SO MANY NFC EAST GAMES IN PRIMETIME HOW ABOUT AFC NORTH *ravens and steelers finish 17-14 after 4 quarters of lovely offensive play* OR NFC WEST *seahawks come back with 45 seconds left to beat the cardinals in a thrilling 7-3 victory* OR EVEN THE loving AFC SOUTH *titans and colts put up a combined 80 points and somehow make it boring*
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Grittybeard posted:You missed a hell of a game last night. That game sucked, Justin Houston and Von Miller got to feast on crappy offenses with lovely QBs that could barely get the ball past 30 yards without putting their entire body into it.
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Look all I'm saying is that the NFC East should get every primetime slot and that should be in a contract of some sort, preferably written and bound like the necronomicon
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I have a really bitter taste in my mouth that this division is no longer all above .500
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Nov 29, 2016 18:51
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If you live in the tri-state area you will hear nothing but Giants talk all day long every day. Maybe some Jets but mostly Giants. There are an absolute ton of Eagles and Cowboys fans up here too but rarely do you see Redskins.
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TheChirurgeon posted:yeah, p. much. They're a high-variance team generally, which is scary. I never understand why people apply historical runs to current present day situations. The only person left from 2007's run is Eli and JPP/Cruz from the other run. It's a completely different team with a completely different head coach and has zero bearing whatsoever in what happened in past years. They weren't even high-variance in 2007 or 2011 either, their starts were completely due to being the most injured team in football both those years.
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I think the Giant's defense is legit this year but the offense surprisingly isn't. The complete lack of run game will probably down them later on in the season and during bad weather games. ODB is just so drat good but they need another seam stretcher. Shepard is an underneath only guy right now and Cruz is a wheel route/sluggo runner sideline guy. That'll also hurt once they start running into teams with competent linebacker and nickel coverage. Either way I think the Cowboys are a better team right now and maybe the Redskins too once they can figure out why their defense is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
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TheChirurgeon posted:That's a fair assessment. I think the Giant's defense is alright, but not elite. I could be wrong, but I always expected the GIants' offseason spending to pay off more next year than this year. This weekend's game will be really telling in terms of how good the defense is. Yeah I looked up the Redskin's schedule and they faced the following in order of QBs: Roethlisberger (38 points), Dak (27), Eli (27), Kessler(?) (20), Flacco (10), Wentz (20), Stafford (20), Dalton(27), Bradford (20), Rodgers (24), Dak (31). They seem to play to their level of competence faced. Giants defense has gotten loads better since they can stop the run. Pass rush is there even if it's not getting sacks. Landon Collins might be DPOY too.
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In an alternate dimension people realize Romo was never a very good QB and the issue of having a good rookie QB starting over him would be a non-issue
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Week 17. Dallas is 14-1. Garrett trots out the starters for the first series. Dak gets a season ending injury. A spunky journeyman backup QB named Tony Romo takes over the reins of the franchise, inexplicably leading it to a Super Bowl
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