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Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Iron Prince posted:

I appreciate all your effort. I’ve probably mentioned it before but I went to a Christian elementary and high school and poo poo like Chick Tracts and Dave Roever really bring back some insanity I forgot about.

poo poo like the POWER TEAM:







Ripping phone books on stage..... FOR CHRIST

I had shared my experience with Power Team coming to my little country church, earlier in this thread.

Lowen SoDium posted:

The church I was a part of in the mid 90's had these guys as guest one Sunday evening. Our pastor even performed with them (he was a beefy thick guy, but not like a weight lifter or anything).

They did all kinds of strong man tricks like tear phone books in half break 2x4 boards by running through them. Stuff that looks impressive and is hard to do, but is more about knowing how to do rather than being awesomely strong.

Before or after each trick, they would ask God for the strength to do whatever impossible thing they were doing, or thank him for giving them the power.

The funny part about it is that our pastor would work tearing phone books in half in to about half of his sermons for about a month afterwards.

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Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

redreader posted:

I'll type up the other one later but about 27? Years ago these two American football players came to my high school in Cape Town and did a very over the top sermon in our Anglican high school's compulsory chapel service. They were both buff, probably bald white dudes. They had found a Bible in their hotel room after a drunk night out, and found god etc. At this point of the sermon they then produced steel bars, tried to bend them, couldn't, prayed to Jesus for strength, then miraculously could bend the steel bars. Anyone heard of these weird grifters? I'd never seen anything like that before, it was just like the most crazy American tv show or something, come to life.

This is a pretty common evangelical sermon/spectacle. The Power Team and the Next Generation Power Force have been kicking around for 35 something years and there are a bunch of offshoots and imitators.

Is it a grift? It's a Christian Magic Show more than anything else. If you show up to these events and think "oh, if I had Jesus power I would be physically strong" and converts or becomes born again or something the Power Team doesn't make money from that. What they make money from is churches hiring them to do their little show. They mostly work the Megachurch circuit and school things like yours, so they are grifting the religious organization if anything. I can't believe many people are showing up to church because they heard someone was going to rip up a phonebook.

Macasaurus
Oct 12, 2012

wait so what's the deal with these old ones being worth money?

also will i go to hell for stealing chick tracts from a christian school

Captain Quack
Feb 18, 2013

Macasaurus posted:

also will i go to hell for stealing chick tracts from a christian school

if you repent and accept Jesus as your lord and saviour, no.

Please check bellow: YES NO
Do you accept Jesus? [ ] [ ]

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

What if I repent, and accept that Jesus saved me from getting in trouble, and that gets me off the hook.
Does that mean I can check yes?

Captain Quack
Feb 18, 2013
if I were you, I would check as soon as possible, because if Chick tracts taught me something is that once you were offered salvation, you are just a couple panels away from your final demise.

Captain Quack fucked around with this message at 19:33 on May 3, 2020

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Accessible and logically-structured? That would be pretty much the opposite of Chick's theology, so I think the organic structure of the thread as it stands is actually a good thing.

Yeah, the more I think about it, you're right. I've been looking for an excuse to go through all of my tracts again (especially since I have access to a scanner at work now), but I just don't have the time right now.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Iron Prince posted:

I appreciate all your effort. I’ve probably mentioned it before but I went to a Christian elementary and high school and poo poo like Chick Tracts and Dave Roever really bring back some insanity I forgot about.

poo poo like the POWER TEAM:







Ripping phone books on stage..... FOR CHRIST

I (heart) Power Team!!

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Macasaurus posted:

wait so what's the deal with these old ones being worth money?

Collecting Chick tracts is great because you can buy about half of the 300+ titles for 17 cents each. From there, it's just a matter of how deep a person wants to get into the hobby. After that, the vast majority of tracts not currently in print can be found for approximately $3 - $30. A person could probably cobble together a complete set of the regular sized tracts (without rare promos) for $500 - $600.

For hardcore collectors like myself, there are countless variations of tracts: changes to cover and interior art, changes to the text & references, and changes to the copyright. These vary in price and desirability. There are also some very rare promotional and foreign tracts. Finally, most of the early, larger-sized tracts from the 1960's are very rare.

In short, most tracts sell can be found for under a dollar if you don't care when they were printed, but some are almost impossible to find, and sell for upwards of $1,000.



quote:

also will i go to hell for stealing chick tracts from a christian school

Yes.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

gosh that sounds like a fun and cool hobby, but I have a question.

If I buy the tracts now and guess at their value in the future based on unpredictable forces, such as demand for them, their rarity, things like that, it seems an awful lot like I'm GAMBLING on their value with MONEY (and possibly my eternal soul). Confirm/Deny if I'm cursing myself to hell for all eternity by even thinking about this act?

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Big Beef City posted:

gosh that sounds like a fun and cool hobby, but I have a question.

If I buy the tracts now and guess at their value in the future based on unpredictable forces, such as demand for them, their rarity, things like that, it seems an awful lot like I'm GAMBLING on their value with MONEY (and possibly my eternal soul). Confirm/Deny if I'm cursing myself to hell for all eternity by even thinking about this act?

You're going to Hell. Haw Haw Haw!!!

Xarthor
Nov 11, 2003

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Lipstick Apathy

Iron Prince posted:

I appreciate all your effort. I’ve probably mentioned it before but I went to a Christian elementary and high school and poo poo like Chick Tracts and Dave Roever really bring back some insanity I forgot about.

poo poo like the POWER TEAM:







Ripping phone books on stage..... FOR CHRIST

Dude, the Power Team came to my PUBLIC high school when I was a senior. They herded us all into the gym for an assembly and out come these spandex clad meat heads ripping phone books and bending lengths of rebar to 80s power metal riffs. Then randomly after one of their lovely tricks the music suddenly halts and the power guys all solumnly walk center stage and one of them says something like "You know, we're strong, but that's nothing as strong as the power of our lord and savior jesus christ..." And then proceeds to full on preach for 30 or 40 mins like it's a goddamn tent revival. No other tricks performed past those first 5-10 mins.

I looked around and nobody seemed shocked. Our school was very diverse (and I don't mean just white/black) we had sizable groups of muslims, sikhs, hindus, etc. I gotta think either the Power Team totally duped the school about what their true purpose/goal was, orrrr my (again, PUBLIC) school knew and didn't give a poo poo. I'm not sure which one is worse.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Xarthor posted:

Dude, the Power Team came to my PUBLIC high school when I was a senior. They herded us all into the gym for an assembly and out come these spandex clad meat heads ripping phone books and bending lengths of rebar to 80s power metal riffs. Then randomly after one of their lovely tricks the music suddenly halts and the power guys all solumnly walk center stage and one of them says something like "You know, we're strong, but that's nothing as strong as the power of our lord and savior jesus christ..." And then proceeds to full on preach for 30 or 40 mins like it's a goddamn tent revival. No other tricks performed past those first 5-10 mins.

I looked around and nobody seemed shocked. Our school was very diverse (and I don't mean just white/black) we had sizable groups of muslims, sikhs, hindus, etc. I gotta think either the Power Team totally duped the school about what their true purpose/goal was, orrrr my (again, PUBLIC) school knew and didn't give a poo poo. I'm not sure which one is worse.

LOL!!!

When and where was this (if you don't mind me asking)?

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Nov 11, 2003

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Gutter Phoenix posted:

LOL!!!

When and where was this (if you don't mind me asking)?

2003. One of the north suburbs of Dallas. I'll PM you the exact name.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Xarthor posted:

2003. One of the north suburbs of Dallas. I'll PM you the exact name.

NO DON'T! If you tell him that, he can reset your password!

My highschool had a visit from some ex-mafia guy who was a dead ringer for Joe Viterelli. He started off talking about how people think that Mafia is Italian for "The Family" but it really is Italian for "Daughter" (wikipedia says neither of those is true). He then went off on some some tangent about how you know that these guys were tough if they used the word for daughter to describe their tough guy organization.

After telling stories about all the horrible things he did and saw, but always stopping just short of ever actually admitting that he was a party to a crime, the story changes to how Jesus allowed him to get out of the mafia. He then went on about his changed life with Jesus for about 30 minutes.

This was a public school, but it was not very diverse at all. 98% of the class was white and christian. Even still, the whole event seemed really strange to me. I am not sure why the administration though we should see that.

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.

Dinosaur Gum
Ok so here's the rest of it. When I was in university in Cape Town, some American dude called 'brother jim' came to campus and just set up in the middle of the square or whatever and started talking poo poo. He had a guy with him who was 'the impartial judge', also called Brother Jim, who would always side with Jim when someone said "you're talking poo poo". Now in SA we mostly have Anglican (episcopal) christianity, or at least that's my experience. Brother Jim was some weird USA-only far-right "maaaaasturrrrbaydors go to hell" guy. Everyone who grew up in SA, if they're religious, know that God loves you and that's basically it. No damnation or judgment, nothing against gay people or women, nothing against muslims etc, is spoken in church. It's all positive mostly, from my experience at least. Once, Archbishop Desmond Tutu visited my church (I used to believe) and that was pretty cool.

So this guy comes to campus without telling any authorities, stands on a step above the plaza, gets a crowd and starts getting people to put up their hands if they're hoeeee-moeee-sexuals (going to hell), maaas-tur-baydors, (going to hell), atheists, communists, socialists, etc. He also had a story about how he was at an AC/DC (or something?) concert and he was smoking a joint and drinking beer and they played some song like highway to hell and then he found god. What is it with these people who have to have lived some 'bad life' to be able to become super-christians?

He said to one person, "I cannot believe that someone with mult-iy coloured hair can go to heaven". Someone said, wtf, and the entire crowd shouted at him, and his judge Brother Jim made the judgment "While it is unlikely, I suppose it is in fact possible that someone with mult-iy coloured hair can go to heaven". Eventually we called campus control/security who chucked him off campus. He probably should have gone to jail for hate speech, to come to think of it. We all thought it was an interesting show by a very crazy person, none of us had seen anything like that before. The weird bar-benders at school were tame by comparison. But yeah it was too much and he should probably have been chucked out sooner. I googled him a few years ago (and right now) and found this page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Jim

Apparently it was van halen according to this (I do now remember 'Vaaaaan Haylen'). Looks like he's a freedom of speech troll, but he probably shouldn't try his luck outside countries with the first amendment.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

redreader posted:

Ok so here's the rest of it. When I was in university in Cape Town, some American dude called 'brother jim' came to campus and just set up in the middle of the square or whatever and started talking poo poo. He had a guy with him who was 'the impartial judge', also called Brother Jim, who would always side with Jim when someone said "you're talking poo poo". Now in SA we mostly have Anglican (episcopal) christianity, or at least that's my experience. Brother Jim was some weird USA-only far-right "maaaaasturrrrbaydors go to hell" guy. Everyone who grew up in SA, if they're religious, know that God loves you and that's basically it. No damnation or judgment, nothing against gay people or women, nothing against muslims etc, is spoken in church. It's all positive mostly, from my experience at least. Once, Archbishop Desmond Tutu visited my church (I used to believe) and that was pretty cool.

So this guy comes to campus without telling any authorities, stands on a step above the plaza, gets a crowd and starts getting people to put up their hands if they're hoeeee-moeee-sexuals (going to hell), maaas-tur-baydors, (going to hell), atheists, communists, socialists, etc. He also had a story about how he was at an AC/DC (or something?) concert and he was smoking a joint and drinking beer and they played some song like highway to hell and then he found god. What is it with these people who have to have lived some 'bad life' to be able to become super-christians?

He said to one person, "I cannot believe that someone with mult-iy coloured hair can go to heaven". Someone said, wtf, and the entire crowd shouted at him, and his judge Brother Jim made the judgment "While it is unlikely, I suppose it is in fact possible that someone with mult-iy coloured hair can go to heaven". Eventually we called campus control/security who chucked him off campus. He probably should have gone to jail for hate speech, to come to think of it. We all thought it was an interesting show by a very crazy person, none of us had seen anything like that before. The weird bar-benders at school were tame by comparison. But yeah it was too much and he should probably have been chucked out sooner. I googled him a few years ago (and right now) and found this page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Jim

Apparently it was van halen according to this (I do now remember 'Vaaaaan Haylen'). Looks like he's a freedom of speech troll, but he probably shouldn't try his luck outside countries with the first amendment.

he's 100% right

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
My fiance just sent me this:

https://twitter.com/No_Context_JTC

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013


lol

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).


Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).






Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

I'm afraid I have bad news for Paul Neipp.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Christian anti-communism has always struck me as a profound case of either cognitive dissonance or a truly colossal ignorance about their own religion.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).








Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).




I flipped part of that 2nd page so it can be read more easily:

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

I can't read so I didn't find any

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

The latest episode of The Omnibus podcast is about Chick Tracts:
https://www.omnibusproject.com/261

Nothing new if you know a bit about the subject already, but enjoyable anyway.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Macasaurus
Oct 12, 2012

dear chick tracts, i never thought this would happen to me...

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
I'm still hoping that the SA forums can continue to exist, because this is the best place on the whole internet.

However, just to be safe, I am working on a website that will contain some of the same material posted in the book thread, magazine thread, and Chick tract thread. And a bunch of other stuff too:

https://weirdandwonderfulbooks.webstarts.site/

Obviously, this is a work in progress. Please be patient, as all of my computer skills are self-taught, so I don't really know what the gently caress I'm doing and only figure things out by trial and error. (Also, just as an FYI - I bought the domain "www.weirdandwonderfulbooks.com," but I'm not going to start paying for web hosting until I get most of the sub-pages put together, so that link on the main page doesn't go anywhere yet.)

Thanks to everyone for your support!

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
A new tract was released on friday, and I'm happy to say that it is really ratcheting up the culture war stuff, which is what makes Chick tracts so great! I was a bit worried about the future of Chick Publications after Jack's death, but David Daniels is definitely following Jack's crazy path. Hooray!

Tract #305 -- Snowflake? (2020)













https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=1179

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

Maurice Sendak’s estate should sue for copyright infringement.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Oh yes, that's the dose of 'unhinged' I needed today.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
Tag yourself I'm the adult kindergartener

That rear end in a top hat Jaden better not hog the good blocks during free time today

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I thought this thread may have been goldmined, but in the last couple months I found my first Chick Tracts, Soul Survivor (in the brochure bin at a gas pump) and Best Friends (under some fossils, at the local fossil park).

In nearly 40 years on earth, I've known people who've found them, but I've never seen one in the wild.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Iron Crowned posted:

I thought this thread may have been goldmined, but in the last couple months I found my first Chick Tracts, Soul Survivor (in the brochure bin at a gas pump) and Best Friends (under some fossils, at the local fossil park).

In nearly 40 years on earth, I've known people who've found them, but I've never seen one in the wild.

I saw one inside of a urinal at a home improvement store. It had been pissed on and I felt bad for the custodian that was going to have to grab a piss-tract out of a urinal.

Agrinja
Nov 30, 2013

Praise the Sun!

Total Clam
This dick head at the place I used to work used to hand out knockoff tracts.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Iron Crowned posted:

I thought this thread may have been goldmined, but in the last couple months I found my first Chick Tracts, Soul Survivor (in the brochure bin at a gas pump) and Best Friends (under some fossils, at the local fossil park).

In nearly 40 years on earth, I've known people who've found them, but I've never seen one in the wild.

Wow! I haven't seen one in the wild since I moved back to the Bay Area a decade ago, but I used to find them all the time in Oregon.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
ill still get one handed to me once in a blue room but im a grocer in the bible belt

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Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Pththya-lyi posted:

Tag yourself I'm the adult kindergartener

That rear end in a top hat Jaden better not hog the good blocks during free time today

I'm Jesus H. Christ being ritually sacrificed to big daddy Yahweh as payment for the sins of all mankind. Thanks a lot, Holy Ghost. Next time you're the one getting crucified!!

Gutter Phoenix fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Sep 3, 2020

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