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CascadeBeta posted:Mcmagic has been making the same tired points for months now. You're not going to convince him of poo poo. He just wants to come in here, retread the same ground and feel smug. He can feel smug all he wants but Bernie would have done worse than Hillary. Imagine replacing everything Hillary speaks from experience on with "I GOT A MILLION YOOTS OUT THERE."
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Nov 1, 2016 15:14
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Harrow posted:I think all of these arguments that "X would've crushed Trump" are maybe too optimistic about the people who are voting for Trump. What if it turns out that a lot of people actually like Trump and aren't just voting for him because Clinton is bad at selling herself as trustworthy? They polled for this and most Trump voters are, in fact, voting out of hatred for Hillary rather than love of Trump.
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Nov 1, 2016 15:25
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Like, to the transgender community of this thread, is there a precedent for some people within the transgender community still having very traditional ideas of gender roles and sexuality and being kind of lovely about them? Its genuinely surprising to me to see a trans person going around calling people "low testosterone beta cucks" and "50 year old bisexuals" because it seems to me like those would be insults and ideas a trans person would be pretty sensitive about. You can be a hosed up person regardless of whether you're trans or not, it isn't the trans part that's a problem. It's just strange because she's backing someone who sees her as somewhere between "abomination" and "child predator" but people vote themselves into a hole all the time. In her case, she's a transgender person with a hosed up view of the world rather than cis.
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Nov 1, 2016 17:07
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Antti posted:LV screens are probably really messy in this election. We'll find out next week. This is what bothers me the most about the whole thing - LV screens have been all over the drat place for months up to and including using statistically insignificant numbers for the 18-35 bracket for a couple polls. Does conventional LV methodology include "I voted early" as a likely voter?
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Nov 1, 2016 21:30
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A Winner is Jew posted:Full stop, you're a loving idiot. Accelerationism is just downmarket affluenza, white kids being so sheltered from the consequences of their actions that they believe economic crashes and layoffs are just abstract things that happen to other people.
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Nov 2, 2016 02:57
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TyrantWD posted:Again, I don't support Trump, and was backing Hillary from the start. Most of you guys are overlooking the fact that Trump isn't the problem. Trump voters are the problem. What is the solution when someone who is not so overly offensive comes along and gives those voters what they want? They'd vote against him.
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Nov 2, 2016 03:18
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Deadulus posted:So you would have to rely on polling early voters to figure out what is happening prior to Election Day? Yes, allowing for a massive coordinated prank where millions of early voters are coached to tell pollsters they voted for the other candidate in order to gently caress with people.
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Nov 2, 2016 05:52
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Harton posted:Man I am ready for this to be over. I had an alt-right dude at work tell me today that trump is gonna win Minnesota because of school children. I'd like to think that if Clinton were polling as bad as trump that I would be honest with myself and be worried, but this thread is a bit of an echo chamber. Everybody I know voting for trump thinks I'm insane when I bring up polling and are convinced trump is gonna win. They've been at "Eva Braun swing dancing on the piano" levels of delusional coping mechanism for months. Nobody's going to hire Kellyanne ever again because a good mouthpiece still acknowledges reality no matter how grim. Lewandowski is probably going to get done like Jon Snow by the anchor desk on election night except everyone laughs at Davos when he asks about resurrection. All of the second-stringers will fall out of the spotlight like idiot moths having just singed their wings into ash on the flame. Trump's brand is so hosed they're taking the loving name off hotels. Trump himself is going to spend the next several months going from courtroom to courtroom having to answer for raping a child and grifting everyone from young to old. Reince is probably going to be found in a pool of his own vomit, mostly composed of Bailey's and Cheerios. If the GOP has anyone left with two sober goddamn neurons in their poo poo-filled skull they'd work on purging every last tea partier, every last freedom caucuser, and every last trump train passenger from the party and then cauterize the holes with molten salt. But they won't. They don't give a drat what winning the general is even like anymore because the primary is the highest level of competition in a gerrymandered system. They dug their own loving grave, knelt down, and executed themselves in the middle of the sticks with no assistance whatsoever. They told themselves stories about the rabbits for so long they didn't realize they were goddamn Lennie all along. It's for the best.
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Nov 2, 2016 06:32
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Nov 2, 2016 14:31
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Mr Hootington posted:Posting in bss, dadchat, and USPol. What is up with you? Shitpostin' all day everyday.
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Nov 2, 2016 14:51
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Covok posted:Does this account for Time-Zone fuckery? Do you mean the part where it says all times Eastern above the clocks? Or the curious case of Arizona who just ignores daylight savings because every hitler needs his autobahn?
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Nov 2, 2016 18:26
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TARGET REMAINS I REPEAT: TARGET REMAINS
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Nov 2, 2016 18:40
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Non Serviam posted:I don't want a sociopath as president. Sorry that affects you so much. You may not be aware but "sociopath" and its less explosive cousin "psychopath" tend to be characteristics which get associated with being a politician. They aren't ever formal diagnoses, of course, but people like to blithely fling the terms at politicians because they believe said pols don't seem to speak to their particular feelings on things, ergo those pols must not have much or any conscience, since anyone with a conscience would certainly see things their way. The reality of it is simply that those particular feelings aren't significant inputs to broader issues at hand and when you're elevated to being responsible for executing the government's foreign policy at the pleasure of the president then sometimes your choices are all poo poo no matter what you do because there's two and a half centuries of inertia behind the situation you're dealing with. Basically what I'm saying is that people who call any political candidate a sociopath or psychopath are shouting armchair diagnoses into the ether out of selfish frustration with the gap between reality and idealism, or are just trying to get a rise out of people.
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Nov 2, 2016 20:26
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Agrajag posted:i refuse to show empathy for those that show none to others and think being a racist sexist rear end in a top hat is a virtue This, there's no excuse for backing the guy even if he was a saint to women and not a racist and you're basing it on policies alone. 1) Trump is a real estate developer who benefits from things like "pro business" tax handouts, adverse usage of eminent domain, and international labor arbitrage. Arguing that poor rural economically disenfranchised whites are voting for him as a reaction to how economic globalization and free trade gutted their communities is accepting, then, that they are too stupid to recognize that the guy whose name was associated with buildings, casinos staffed by immigrants, and faux-luxury clothing/accessories/knick-knacks has an interest in promoting a free trade system which makes those faux-luxury products cheaper to produce, those buildings more profitable, and those casinos more likely to draw immigrant labor for wage-depressing salaries. 2) If they're somehow instead supposed to be aware of the root causes of their pain and simply voting for the guy because he says he'll take actions detrimental to practically all aspects of his business operations, then they're cognizant of his headline plan for mass deportations and a Berlin-style border wall and at best consider it fair collateral damage. 3) If they believe free trade agreements depress wages and promote offshore labor, then it would follow that they're aware that those agreements mean lower costs of production for retail goods manufactured elsewhere. Knowing that, they accept that an increase in retail prices is acceptable collateral damage for bringing manufacturing back onshore, and would presumably accept an increase in the minimum wage but they do not, as Trump has publicly opposed a MW hike and has opined that maybe it should be lower. Basically, all that policy poo poo makes no sense unless your motivation lies in getting rid of non-white people, building a wall, and then adopting religious discrimination as government directive.
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Nov 2, 2016 23:12
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Wait, so the big investigative story is just outing the name of the rape victim who wanted to stay anonymous? quote:A woman who has alleged Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump raped her when she was a child canceled a Los Angeles news conference Wednesday at which she had planned to reveal her identity. Basically, she cancelled the presser.
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Nov 3, 2016 04:17
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GalacticAcid posted:Lmao this is the best meltdown of the election season. lol you aren't watching the game right now then because lmao the windy city is probably headed for supercriticality.
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last time the cubs won a world series women couldn't vote. e: The model T entered the market that year and mother's day was celebrated for the first time. Also the first fatal plane crash in the US. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Nov 3, 2016 06:08
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Mixodorian posted:http://www.snopes.com/boycott36-clinton-sanders-late-term-abortion/ You're really mangling the gently caress out of this, let me quote it again here for context: quote:However, Clinton stressed that she objects to the recent efforts in Congress to pass a federal law banning abortions after 20 weeks with no exceptions. "Under Roe v. Wade, it is appropriate to say in these circumstances" that abortion rights may be restricted, she said -- "so long as there's an exception for the life and health of the mother." The standard set in Roe isn't so much a set number of weeks but instead a blend of trimesters and the more nebulous term of "Fetal Viability" including viability only conferred through artificial means (e.g. NICU with breathing assistance due to lovely baby lungs) which means that there may be an argument for a 20-week cutoff (if by cutoff you include week 20 as non-viable) but that's going to be a highly dubious argument since the earliest-known births are still 21 weeks and change. 24 weeks is more of a definite mark but even then it's pretty much a coin flip and I'd personally rather see something closer to 28 or 30 if viability is truly the factor for anti-choice crusaders. Not only would 20 weeks fall afoul of the Roe standard, but it'd fall afoul of legislation Clinton herself cosponsored as a Senator which explicitly prohibits government interference with a woman's right to choose quote:(A) to bear a child; and to clarify the meaning of "Viability" for the purposes of that legislation, quote:(3) VIABILITY.—The term “viability” means that stage of pregnancy when, in the best medical judgment of the attending physician based on the particular medical facts of the case before the physician, there is a reasonable likelihood of the sustained survival of the fetus outside of the woman. That said, there has never been a viable fetus born in the 20th week. They all died shortly after leaving the womb, because even at 21 weeks not only are the lungs not fully developed, other stuff like the digestive tract and circulatory system are iffy as hell. You're still looking at developmental issues continuing through childhood with a 21 week fetus. Now, if you're looking to jump trains and get on the economic access one, Clinton has for years opposed the hyde amendment/supported overturning it, so abortions could get covered under Medicaid. Yes, the economic access aspect (usually with added points about women of color being hardest hit by economic disenfranchisement) of choice is a consistent part of her platform. I mean, anyone who reads up on this kind of thing in places that aren't snopes is going to be at least somewhat aware of the facts - unless they are putting an effort into being pointedly wrong for cryptic reasons.
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Nov 3, 2016 08:59
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Mixodorian posted:We killed Mohammed Mosaddegh getting the ball rolling for Iran to become an Islamic state, Iran becomes an Islamic state, still manages to be less cartoonishly evil than Israel and Saudi Arabia who we play along with. Iran is also the most educated country in the Middle East. Why is my desire for the United States to support Iran on their road of rehabilitation, which has started with electing Rouhani, funny??? (I know the choices were skewed to Khamenei's liking to start, but Iranians going for the moderate option is still a great sign) Because believing Iran needs "rehabilitation" through what amounts to a regime change isn't support even if you're waving a electoral figleaf around. There's a huge gulf of difference between supporting Iran and simply believing they have a right to diplomatic engagement rather than invasion/airstrikes. In simpler words, your support of Iran is "They're assholes but that doesn't mean we should bomb them until they love us since it's obvious the Iranian public is perfectly capable of pushing their government in a moderate direction from the ballot box," which is about as unique as having a goddamn nose and doesn't earn you any kudos. What's next? A bold stance on how women are people too? Going out on a limb in opposition to child soldiers?
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Nov 3, 2016 09:23
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Mixodorian posted:What the gently caress is your problem? You're putting words in my mouth. I want Iran to moderate and be the adult in the room in the Middle East. My in laws are refugees from the 1979 revolution. They have the size and their population is educated enough. You're getting bent out of shape because I called you out for trying to out-woke people itt with a pedestrian-as-gently caress stance on Iran? Oh man, hot enlightened foreign policy views coming through, USPol poster Mixdorian thinks the largest, most educated nation in the middle east has a responsibility to promote peace and stability throughout the region despite their glaring flaws like hanging political prisoners from cranes. That's not support, that's loving pragmatism. Also don't do the "My
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cant cook creole bream posted:Context? Probably David "a cartoonish racist who looks every bit the part" Duke continually pissing and moaning about getting poo poo on.
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Nov 3, 2016 10:36
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WeAreTheRomans posted:I honestly don't remember this many fragile little bitches in 2012, which shaped up to be a much closer election than what we got here They couldn't vote in 2012.
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Nov 3, 2016 10:47
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Trump seems not to be having a great time He's also a bit of an rear end in a top hat about everything.
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Nov 3, 2016 10:52
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ReV VAdAUL posted:I doubt it will have any effect. None of the impacts of it will be felt within the next few days, most people simply don't care about British constitutional issues. Heck if anything it might strengthen Trumps' hand in saying the elites want to deny the will of (white) people the world over so they have to stop Clinton appointing any Supreme Court Justices. He said people can call him "Mr. BREXIT" which appears to mean "Mr. Unconstitutional" and that isn't too far from reality.
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Nov 3, 2016 11:36
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meristem posted:Honestly, it did astonish me how highly she was valued when studies had been done on the various right-wing phenomena for years (while she seemed to me as if acting as if she was discovering something new). I mean, as in, less her own attitude, more those of the others around. Plain weird. It was written in fairly accessible language and spoken from what's presumably first hand experience. Sure the DSM will tell you what a narcissist is, but PJ described it as a psychological dependency on attention/adulation complete with drug tolerances and seeking behavior and all that poo poo. A lot of the "wow this is groundbreaking" probably stemmed from people being able to grasp a psychological disorder masquerading as a political movement due to how PJ was describing it. Geostomp posted:Since that British islands did not fall into the sea the week after Brexit, all the angry white people here saw was their nationist dream. Their currency value did, though.
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Nov 3, 2016 11:43
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Ah correction: The High Court has ruled Parliament has to have a vote on invoking article 50. The government is now appealing to the (British) Supreme Court. I'm imagining the Tory leadershits need some kind of deniability on this since a parliament vote would almost certainly go against them and then their idiot voter base would blame them for not building the wall/stopping the boats/entombing the island in a modern mausoleum to their lord and savior Oswald Moseley.
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Nov 3, 2016 11:55
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cant cook creole bream posted:Wasn't she mostly below 2 percent? Yeah, but only certified organic 2%. She prefers raw milk but it's hard to keep stocked on the trail.
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freckle posted:FDR was a drat good president. Roosevelt founded the fuckin' March of Dimes.
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I would like to think that there's going to be a brutal oppo dump today so that it gets a full day of play, followed by Friday analysis which boosts weekend turnout going into the election. That's a pipe dream and it ain't happening but lol if it did.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Is this seriously the second year in a row that right wingers have had a collective aneurism over a goddamn Starbucks cup? Yes.
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Nov 3, 2016 13:24
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:If you can imagine the perception that Starbucks is some liberal enclave where all the liberals/hipsters go to sip lattes and be smug, then you understand why right wingers constantly melt down over it Instead it's a slop trough for disgusting hogs howling out of the suburbs in pearl white escalades bought with maxed HELOCs liened against far more house than can ever be afforded on the salaries of a dental tech and an AVP level hack shackled to middle management in B2B sales.
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edrith posted:https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/792795095862870017  Having someone who is willing to straight up say "No, being gay isn't a goddamn disease to be cured, you loving barbarians" is going to be much better than "Well I certainly feel the pain of these inbred hicks and understand the whole christian persecution complex, but the federal government needs to be fair" but I'm dying to hear how this translates into Hillary saying gay kids won't get obamacare coverage anymore.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:01
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Agrajag posted:gently caress first/second year poli sci idiots. lol nobody does that
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mcmagic posted:OK but it doesn't prove that they wouldn't be turning out more if he was the nominee. if they turned out for him well enough in the primary he probably could have won the nomination.
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Nov 3, 2016 14:30
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Agrajag posted:No, because Bernie "magical handwaving". Because Bernie spent 16 years as a representative for a state with about 700,000 people, and has been a senator for that state ever since whereas Hillary was only running anti-discrimination sting ops against illegally segregated schools in Arkansas before becoming first lady or AR for eight years, FLOTUS for eight years (where she drat near steered healthcare reform into law from what was largely a loving ceremonial role), Senator from NY for the next eight, Secretary of State for four years after that, honestly there isn't any comparison Bernie is a much stronger candidate.
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SavageBastard posted:
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Covok posted:Why is Florida such poo poo? Old people go there to die and get so bored waiting for death that they decide to pass the time by ruining the lives of others. Young people go there to flounder and get sucked into the service industry meat grinder. Everyone else goes there to watch it all happen. It's the back corner of an alien zoo where nothing's really meant to be there as a permanent exhibit but there's a constant churn of things that get stuck back there despite allegedly intending to pass through en route to their destination. It's a state full of transients where nobody gets to feel a sense of community despite being crammed together.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Zizek I know you are a radical philosopher and all but comb your loving hair you're gonna be on tv They should put him and Richard Stallman on a stage and start an argument over the meaning of free software.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:So basically, nuclear's problem is insufficient good lobbyists. Relative to the proliferation of coal/oil/gas lobbyists? Yeah.
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