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open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

G-Spot Run posted:

You can be corrupt as you like so long as you ram home the legislation before you get caught!

Does this imply you could get yourself elected illegally, then just change the law to make it legal?

I mean I realise this would take more than one senator to pull off, but theoretically.

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open24hours posted:

Does this imply you could get yourself elected illegally, then just change the law to make it legal?

I mean I realise this would take more than one senator to pull off, but theoretically.

Its the constitution, it would require a referendum.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:11

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

open24hours posted:

Does this imply you could get yourself elected illegally, then just change the law to make it legal?

I mean I realise this would take more than one senator to pull off, but theoretically.

You can change the law to make anything legal. That's why it's the law.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:19

tithin: Nov 14, 2003; [Grandmaster Tactician]

Wouldn't the relevant minor parties just nominate someone else?

Ultimately they won the Senate seat right?

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:24

tithin: Nov 14, 2003; [Grandmaster Tactician]

https://twitter.com/primroseriordan/status/793683398774497280

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:27

G-Spot Run: Jun 28, 2005

Apparently it's potentially a bit more complicated than just moving down the list because of the ATL changes and groups being a minimum of 2 people to count as a group. Antony Green's blog has a great what-if analysis that looks at a few options and precedents

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:29

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

tithin posted:

Wouldn't the relevant minor parties just nominate someone else?

Ultimately they won the Senate seat right?

Depends on whether they were legally elected in the first place. Given the high court is apparently going to be sitting as the Court of Disputed Returns, there's a good chance the initial election was invalid and thus his party don't get to choose a replacement.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:30

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

also lol at brandis claiming he was unaware of the ineligibility until just now, given everyone in this thread was questioning why he was allowed on the ballot at the time.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:32

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Amusingly enough it appears that the high courts ruling against Day's challenge to senate voting reform is what is going to allow Family First to keep Day's seat, as it asserted that a vote can validly be for a ticket rather than an individual, thus votes which simply list 1 for family first are interpreted as being 1 Day 2 Other Scumfuck, rather than being declared invalid.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:36

thatbastardken: Apr 23, 2010; A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

Solemn Sloth posted:

also lol at brandis claiming he was unaware of the ineligibility until just now, given everyone in this thread was questioning why he was allowed on the ballot at the time.

brandis is actually thick as two short planks, based on my experience of meeting him.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:40

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

"Boy am I sharp on the constitution (the real law of Australia) so this is right up my veggie patch,"

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:41

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

First Dog:

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:48

asio: Nov 29, 2008; "Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood

http://www.elissa.info/2016/11/business-women-warn-investors-about-proposed-mens-only-co-working-space/

Business Women Warn Investors About Proposed Men’s Only Co-Working Space

A new Brisbane women’s group, WGFNB (Women Going Forward Not Backward) has just been formed (by myself Elissa Jenkins and a fellow social entrepreneur Emma-Kate Rose) in response to yesterday’s announcement of a men’s only, Brisbane-based co-working space called Nomadic Thinkers. No I will not hyperlink to them.

Like the new Facebook page now.

Apparently backed by six investors, the co-working space has been created by supporters of the men’s rights MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) community who believe the modern man needs to “preserve and protect his own sovereignty above all else.”

WGFNB group members and social entrepreneurs, Elissa Jenkins and Emma-Kate Rose, say they started the group and gave it a spoof name as a way to warn financial investors, social investors and business partners that this is not the way to start up a business in the 21st Century.

“At first we thought it was a men’s rights satire piece until we realised it was a real group of young men in Brisbane who are somehow blaming women for the bad behaviour of men,” said Emma-Kate Rose.

“We are calling for a boycott of all the businesses that are borne out of Nomadic Thinker’s co-working space,” she said.

“This is the antithesis of the culture of gender inclusion that both men and women have been promoting and legislating in the workplace for decades.

“This is really old thinking coming from young men,” she said.

Emma-Kate said the group was talking about men losing their identity because they (in Nomadic Thinkers words) used to go to war together whereas “girls” do “rights of passage” better in that we have “tea parties and stuff.”

“Really, how many women these days host tea parties?” asked Emma-Kate.

Currently, in Australia 3 in 4 startups are formed by men, and people are working hard to rectify this gender inequality in business. In response to this problem a women’s co-working space recently launched in Perth to encourage more women in starting up their business ideas.

The Nomadic Thinkers website says their men’s only co-working space and gym will create social impact by developing men’s health and fitness, men’s financial independence and men’s emotional intelligence.

WGFNB member Elissa Jenkins said this social impact statement makes a mockery of the social justice aspects of social impact promoted by the social enterprise movement and the broader business community.

“True social impact is based on ensuring a foundation of human dignity and opportunity, which is most pressing for underserved populations and those lacking essential resources or services, such as girls and women.

“The MGTOW philosophy, while it’s kind of fun to laugh at, is totally backwards and we’re warning potential investors and business partners not to be fooled by this bizarre new exploit,” she said.

Elissa called out Nomadic Thinker’s claims that they’re creating social impact, questioning the lack of an inclusive workplace.

“It normalises behaviours that further divide people rather than seeking mutual understanding.

“If men are so worried about not being able to work around women then they need to get some professional help for their emotional distress, rather than assert misguided ideas that are last century and damaging to future generations,” said Elissa.

“Their backward thinking blog and social media posts would be funny if they weren’t so harmful,” she said.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 07:58

Kafka Syrup: Apr 29, 2009

asio posted:

http://www.elissa.info/2016/11/business-women-warn-investors-about-proposed-mens-only-co-working-space/

Business Women Warn Investors About Proposed Men’s Only Co-Working Space

A new Brisbane women’s group, WGFNB (Women Going Forward Not Backward) has just been formed (by myself Elissa Jenkins and a fellow social entrepreneur Emma-Kate Rose) in response to yesterday’s announcement of a men’s only, Brisbane-based co-working space called Nomadic Thinkers. No I will not hyperlink to them.

Like the new Facebook page now.

Apparently backed by six investors, the co-working space has been created by supporters of the men’s rights MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) community who believe the modern man needs to “preserve and protect his own sovereignty above all else.”

WGFNB group members and social entrepreneurs, Elissa Jenkins and Emma-Kate Rose, say they started the group and gave it a spoof name as a way to warn financial investors, social investors and business partners that this is not the way to start up a business in the 21st Century.

“At first we thought it was a men’s rights satire piece until we realised it was a real group of young men in Brisbane who are somehow blaming women for the bad behaviour of men,” said Emma-Kate Rose.

“We are calling for a boycott of all the businesses that are borne out of Nomadic Thinker’s co-working space,” she said.

“This is the antithesis of the culture of gender inclusion that both men and women have been promoting and legislating in the workplace for decades.

“This is really old thinking coming from young men,” she said.

Emma-Kate said the group was talking about men losing their identity because they (in Nomadic Thinkers words) used to go to war together whereas “girls” do “rights of passage” better in that we have “tea parties and stuff.”

“Really, how many women these days host tea parties?” asked Emma-Kate.

Currently, in Australia 3 in 4 startups are formed by men, and people are working hard to rectify this gender inequality in business. In response to this problem a women’s co-working space recently launched in Perth to encourage more women in starting up their business ideas.

The Nomadic Thinkers website says their men’s only co-working space and gym will create social impact by developing men’s health and fitness, men’s financial independence and men’s emotional intelligence.

WGFNB member Elissa Jenkins said this social impact statement makes a mockery of the social justice aspects of social impact promoted by the social enterprise movement and the broader business community.

“True social impact is based on ensuring a foundation of human dignity and opportunity, which is most pressing for underserved populations and those lacking essential resources or services, such as girls and women.

“The MGTOW philosophy, while it’s kind of fun to laugh at, is totally backwards and we’re warning potential investors and business partners not to be fooled by this bizarre new exploit,” she said.

Elissa called out Nomadic Thinker’s claims that they’re creating social impact, questioning the lack of an inclusive workplace.

“It normalises behaviours that further divide people rather than seeking mutual understanding.

“If men are so worried about not being able to work around women then they need to get some professional help for their emotional distress, rather than assert misguided ideas that are last century and damaging to future generations,” said Elissa.

“Their backward thinking blog and social media posts would be funny if they weren’t so harmful,” she said.

A local social impact consultant was saying that one of the guys is apparently a Management Consultant at a place called "Mercer Advisory Services" specialising in the NFP and social impact sector. That's a little worrying, since he pretty evidently doesn't really understand social impact.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 08:08

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Solemn Sloth posted:

"Boy am I sharp on the constitution (the real law of Australia) so this is right up my veggie patch,"

gently caress you, I came here to post that as well.

One Nation, ladies and gentlemen. Right up in their own veggie patch.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 08:10

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Pickled Tink posted:

First Dog:

You know normally I ignore First Dog but that about sums it up

# ? Nov 2, 2016 09:04

BBJoey: Oct 31, 2012

folks it is with a heavy heart I must inform you all that van is at it again

BBJoey fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Nov 2, 2016

# ? Nov 2, 2016 09:06

Comstar: Apr 20, 2007; Are you happy now?

If Abott gets back in as a Minister, Turnball will be waving a document around declaring that giving up Czechoslovakia was his final territorial demand.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 09:39

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

If the budgie smuggler gets a minister portfolio Turnbull will rock up to parliament wearing a giant sock puppet costume as a onsie with a paper mache replica of Abbott's arm visibly inserted into his anus.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 09:46

Frogfingers: Oct 10, 2012

Does he get to be Minister for Women again or what?

The only fitting portfolio I can think of him for would include wearing colourful hats and juggling.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 10:01

PaletteSwappedNinja: Jun 3, 2008; One Nation, Under God.

He wants to be minister for indigenous affairs, believe it or not.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 10:07

Frogfingers: Oct 10, 2012

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

He wants to be minister for indigenous affairs, believe it or not.

He is a Rhodes scholar after all, why am I surprised he wants to be a conquistador?

# ? Nov 2, 2016 10:16

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Abbott really likes to think he cares about indigenous issues.

BBJoey posted:

folks it is with a heavy heart I must inform you all that van is at it again

It wasn't her worst effort, to be fair.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 11:04

Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

Cartoon posted:

Also Abbott is after the Indigenous Affairs portfolio. Truly a gift that continues to keep giving.

And for the same reason he took the position as Minister for Women when he was PM, I bet.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 12:39

Toys For Ass Bum: Feb 1, 2015

Remember when Abbott dug his heels in over allowing abortion drug RU-486 to be used here?
http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2005/s1507408.htm

lol and now it's on the PBS. gently caress you Abbott :frog:

# ? Nov 2, 2016 13:01

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Why is Mark Latham such a massive fuckwit?

# ? Nov 2, 2016 13:24

Pile Of Garbage: May 28, 2007

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Why is everyone such a massive fuckwit?

# ? Nov 2, 2016 13:26

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Why is everyone such a massive fuckwit?

Aussie Aussie Aussie

Oy Oy Oy

# ? Nov 2, 2016 13:56

PaletteSwappedNinja: Jun 3, 2008; One Nation, Under God.

Latham stands alone due to his ceaseless and completely inexplicable vendetta against Rosie Batty.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 14:02

tithin: Nov 14, 2003; [Grandmaster Tactician]

Anz announced a fall in profits of 18%

It begins

# ? Nov 2, 2016 23:25

Wrestlepig: Feb 25, 2011; my mum says im cool; Toilet Rascal

gently caress I was just organising a badass heist, no what do I do?

# ? Nov 2, 2016 23:44

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

rumble in the bunghole posted:

gently caress I was just organising a badass heist, no what do I do?

settle for 4 billion instead of 5 billion?

# ? Nov 2, 2016 23:48

Wrestlepig: Feb 25, 2011; my mum says im cool; Toilet Rascal

I'd be running on a loss then, it's a very expensive heist.

# ? Nov 2, 2016 23:57

Frogfingers: Oct 10, 2012

rumble in the bunghole posted:

I'd be running on a loss then, it's a very expensive heist.

If you're already part of ANZ its called embezzlement.

# ? Nov 3, 2016 00:20

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

tithin posted:

Anz announced a fall in profits of 18%

It begins

Now I have read the book to "The Big Short" so I should be starting to buy bonds in insurance for Australian mortgages right?

# ? Nov 3, 2016 00:35

Webcormac McCarthy: Nov 26, 2007

How George Brandis Stacked An Independent Tribunal With Liberal Mates

# ? Nov 3, 2016 01:21

Gridlocked: Aug 2, 2014; MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

tithin posted:

Anz announced a fall in profits of 18%

It begins

Didn't they announce something like that earlier this year too?

# ? Nov 3, 2016 01:24

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
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"كان هناك وقت الآن."
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Webcormac McCarthy posted:

How George Brandis Stacked An Independent Tribunal With Liberal Mates

Jesus christ. He has to resign after that, surely? That's loving blatant.

Of course not though.

# ? Nov 3, 2016 01:25

Webcormac McCarthy: Nov 26, 2007

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Jesus christ. He has to resign after that, surely? That's loving blatant.

Of course not though.

That article should come with a disclaimer, it's so :emo:

inducing.

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DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Webcormac McCarthy posted:

How George Brandis Stacked An Independent Tribunal With Liberal Mates

If that fat leaner gently caress had to work day's work he wouldn't know what to do.

Misuse of public monies is all the current LNP is good for. Oh and racism, xenophobia and religious themed bigotry.
Quick edit sorry - forgot sexism, regression and stirring up malicious hatred.

# ? Nov 3, 2016 07:05

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