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StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Can we as a nation just take a mulligan on this election

Like just all admit we hosed up the primaries and pick some new candidates and start over

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Decebal
Jan 6, 2010
Just an example I found on google. How can this be defended ? Nobody talks about it and no accountability is required. Move the borders until you win ! Sounds great !

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
way easier and much more common to just put people on busses

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless


reallivedinosaur posted:

way easier and much more common to just put people on busses

you dunno what you're talking about

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit

Decebal posted:

Just an example I found on google. How can this be defended ? Nobody talks about it and no accountability is required. Move the borders until you win ! Sounds great !



lol I like how the north and south sections of Illinois congressional district 4 are connected by a stretch of highway on the west side.

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
the left is fine with redistricting when it comes to "muh integrated schools" or whatever

easier to bus people in and not require ID to vote if you just want to commit fraud

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

reallivedinosaur posted:

easier to bus people in and not require ID to vote if you just want to commit fraud

you're just being willfully dense now lol

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Moridin920 posted:

you're just being willfully dense now lol

Obtuse, as it were

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



reallivedinosaur posted:

you put people on buses and drive them to the district you need their votes in, rather than go to the hassle of redrawing the electoral map and hoping everyone goes along with you

... methinks mayhap more appropriate a moniker: realdumbdinosaur

dookifex_maximus
Aug 10, 2016

by zen death robot

The Landstander posted:

Obama was good at glossing over the splits in the Democratic Party between (for lack of better terms) leftists and liberals.

in political science they say liberals and neoliberals, the term leftists encompasses liberals and the hardline tankies who are very not liberal

dookifex_maximus has issued a correction as of 23:34 on Nov 3, 2016

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord
op this is a bad idea

and I'm saying this as a socialist who voted for bernie in the primaries and then hillary for early voting

what you're proposing will help trump, who is dumb and bad and also a fuckin retardo

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
So I'm reading up on the electoral college and I'm curious, is there any chance / any historical occasion where the electors met in December and said "lol nope" and voted in opposition to their party?

Like let's say Trump wins, December's meeting comes along and a bunch of his electors defect, voting for Hillary, or a floor lamp, or something else?

... okay I'll just do some further reading and apparently "kinda but some states have laws":

quote:

Are there restrictions on who the Electors can vote for?

There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires Electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in their states. Some states, however, require Electors to cast their votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two categories—Electors bound by state law and those bound by pledges to political parties.

The U.S. Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that Electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the parties' nominees. Some state laws provide that so-called "faithless Electors" may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under the Constitution. No Elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to vote as pledged.

Today, it is rare for Electors to disregard the popular vote by casting their electoral vote for someone other than their party's candidate. Electors generally hold a leadership position in their party or were chosen to recognize years of loyal service to the party. Throughout our history as a nation, more than 99 percent of Electors have voted as pledged.

from here

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

That Robot posted:

op this is a bad idea

and I'm saying this as a socialist who voted for bernie in the primaries and then hillary for early voting

what you're proposing will help trump, who is dumb and bad and also a fuckin retardo

This is a terrible way of viewing things and largely why we have two candidates no one likes in the first place.

interwhat
Jul 23, 2005

it's kickin in dude

That Robot posted:

op this is a bad idea

and I'm saying this as a socialist who voted for bernie in the primaries and then hillary for early voting

what you're proposing will help trump, who is dumb and bad and also a fuckin retardo

I know, I was wrong, dumb and confused

interwhat
Jul 23, 2005

it's kickin in dude

ArbitraryC posted:

This is a terrible way of viewing things and largely why we have two candidates no one likes in the first place.

We literally have no options here. The terrifying part is, it really isn't clear that Hillary will make a better president

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

interwhat posted:

We literally have no options here. The terrifying part is, it really isn't clear that Hillary will make a better president

Obamacare becoming more expensive and Hillary never being able to get a higher minimum wage passed through a Republican congress means we all suffer

Sethex
Jun 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

That Robot posted:

op this is a bad idea

and I'm saying this as a socialist who voted for bernie in the primaries and then hillary for early voting

what you're proposing will help trump, who is dumb and bad and also a fuckin retardo


https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/794232437337247744

Your view isn't shared by people smarter than you.

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

Sethex posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/794232437337247744

Your view isn't shared by people smarter than you.

I refuse to watch any video of that fat slob sylvester the cat sounding guy

poorlifedecision
Feb 13, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

my bat mitzvah ROCKED posted:

I refuse to watch any video of that fat slob sylvester the cat sounding guy

You seem like a smart chap, advise me on who to vote for pls.

Sethex
Jun 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Kuato posted:

I don't get why people were so into Bernie. He was OK, but it seems obvious the dearth of people running for the nomination inflated his appeal to most. I compare him to Mike Gravel all the time because I'm assuming if the 08 field were as weak as 16 Gravel would've been more competitive.

My FB wall reads like baby's first election with the kind of people who support him.

You sound dead on the inside.

Bernie ownz lol

poorlifedecision
Feb 13, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

Sethex posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/794232437337247744

Your view isn't shared by people smarter than you.

Well if the reigning bum fight champion says to vote for Trump then I'll follow.

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

poorlifedecision posted:

You seem like a smart chap, advise me on who to vote for pls.

Stay home and don't vote it doesnt matter :)

poorlifedecision
Feb 13, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
Done! Thanks buddo.

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

Moridin920 posted:

you're just being willfully dense now lol

It is his personality to be willfully dense. It's part of his charm.

Kuato
Feb 25, 2005

"I CAN'T BELIEVE I ATE THE WHOLE THING"
Buglord

Ork of Fiction posted:

It is his personality to be willfully dense. It's part of his charm.

Dude has a lot of charm. Almost too much IMO.

Sethex
Jun 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The gendered phrase 'bernie bros' speaks to the greater emphasis on identity politics that the American left prefers over any values for egalitarianism or class struggle.

interwhat
Jul 23, 2005

it's kickin in dude
Here's my biggest problems with the candidates: Hillary has flip flopped on nearly all the issues in favor of who tosses the most cash her way, so what's to keep her from buying into another loving war. Trump has the vocabulary of a fifth grader, and has yet to complete one single sentence, something I think should be a minimum requirement for gaining keys to the nukes.

If this is all America could loving come up with, then I mean god drat

interwhat
Jul 23, 2005

it's kickin in dude
Russia knows what's up. They even made us a new present to take care of Texas

Pity Party Animal
Jul 23, 2006
How is Bernie formed?
How is Bernie formed? How president get elacted?


They need to do way inprison Hillary> who steal from our Bernies. becuse my Bernie cant fright back?
It was on the reddit this mrach a Hillary in nv who had steal her election. they are taking the nasty woman back to new york too lady to prison my pary are with Bernie who lost his nomination; i am truely sorry for your lots.

dookifex_maximus
Aug 10, 2016

by zen death robot

Sethex posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/794232437337247744

Your view isn't shared by people smarter than you.

hey i made this same argument tons around here, thanks slavoj for restating it

BIG PUFFY NIPS
Mar 7, 2007

College Slice

interwhat posted:

Here's my biggest problems with the candidates: Hillary has flip flopped on nearly all the issues in favor of who tosses the most cash her way, so what's to keep her from buying into another loving war. Trump has the vocabulary of a fifth grader, and has yet to complete one single sentence, something I think should be a minimum requirement for gaining keys to the nukes.

If this is all America could loving come up with, then I mean god drat

are you serious she and obama are going to war with russia in syria right now over a gas pipeline my dude nato boots on the ground in poland it is already too late lmao

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
You can't stop with these, huh

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
poo poo. I'm smart enough to know I'm a lot dumber than Zizek I guess I'll have to vote trump this blows.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Pity Party Animal posted:

How is Bernie formed?
How is Bernie formed? How president get elacted?


They need to do way inprison Hillary> who steal from our Bernies. becuse my Bernie cant fright back?
It was on the reddit this mrach a Hillary in nv who had steal her election. they are taking the nasty woman back to new york too lady to prison my pary are with Bernie who lost his nomination; i am truely sorry for your lots.

MaxNV
Jan 3, 2011


Please write in: Ed Balls

Gamer With Dignity
May 15, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

reallivedinosaur posted:

the left is fine with redistricting when it comes to "muh integrated schools" or whatever

easier to bus people in and not require ID to vote if you just want to commit fraud

Way easier to commit voter suppression if you require ID.

scuba school sucks
Aug 30, 2012

The brilliance of my posting illuminates the forums like a jar of shining gold when all around is dark

Sethex posted:

Your view isn't shared by people smarter than you.

Dude can't even make his eyes point in the right direction and his movie reviews are pretentious horseshit. I wouldn't ask that guy where's the men's room at.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Lime Tonics
Nov 7, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Decebal posted:

Just an example I found on google. How can this be defended ? Nobody talks about it and no accountability is required. Move the borders until you win ! Sounds great !



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The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.




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