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Razzled posted:umm is Orc mines only 2 levels now? Yes, but it ought to be 3
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Nov 5, 2016 00:28
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1) DECj of Sif or Veh 2) TrMo trying to get casting online 3) New gods are Hep, Uka, and partially reformed Sif.
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Because they're molten Edit: how good is PArrow these days? Worth it in spider & shoals? Speleothing fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Nov 10, 2016 18:35
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Goddam Veh gave me LCS, Chain Lightning, and Shatter. I have 0 earth and 6 Air. Guess I gotta save up the $1800 for Annihilations if I want Firestorm
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Nov 10, 2016 21:15
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Depends on your god? Some can go full-ninja and steal 3 runes. Others might want to crosstrain into LBl or rely on Invo/Evo
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Nov 11, 2016 00:41
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Araganzar posted:I have been changing spells as I find amnesia. The removal of book amnesia means a late vehumet convert has big time issues if they have poor scroll luck. You can always trawl Pan or Abyss for easy xp by the time you're ready for Tomb or Hell
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Nov 11, 2016 01:19
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Removing RestAb is high on the list of dumb things.
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Nov 11, 2016 02:05
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someone awful. posted:It's cool, you guys. I'm Crawling for escapism myself, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah, it's either Crawl at work, or browse something with post-election news all over it. But anyway, I've got two questions: 1) On CBRO I've decided to play an automatic-skill-MiFi challenge. It's been a cakewalk, but now I have a potion of Exp at the bottom of Orc (got chased out of L:1 by a hydra) and I'm not sure what to dump it in. Somebody come look at my dude. Grandpa Oka hasn't given me poo poo this time. 2) On my cell phone I've got a DEFE of Veh and I need advice about what spells to take. LCS or OoD? Firestorm? I've had good luck with Summon Ice Beast paired with Freezing Cloud well into lategame when the Beasts otherwise would fall off, is that & Servitor reliable enough to get into summoning for? I'm lvl 22 and feeling a crunch on available spell levels, but have books of Power, Conjurations, and Annihilations available, and can buy a whole bunch of other ones.
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Trip report on relying entirely on Auto-Skilling as a MiFi: It works really really well, except that it doesn't put enough into Invo & Evo. Started juggling spells skills after my first 2 runes to try to get some support spells online. Would probably be possible to 3-rune a Berserker with only ever setting weapon skill to * instead of + but otherwise never touching skills (maybe making sure Evo gets enough love post-lair). Died in Vaults 5 to being swarmed while in sight of 2 Entropic Weavers. Should have popped tele as soon as the first one showed up. Also should have farmed up more XP in Depths before trying to face-tank the ambush. http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue//Speleothing/morgue-Speleothing-20161112-214601.txt edit: Also, check out all those uniques on Snake:4 Speleothing fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Nov 13, 2016 21:43
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rj54x posted:I actually disagree. I think getting shafted, and then having to desperately search for the quickest path to an upstair, is a fun and interesting thing. The Abyss exists in a weird gray area where if you're too weak it's a death sentence, too strong and it's boring. Getting banished at about XL 17-21 is the ideal zone of good encounters. Maybe if you're below a certain level, Altars to Lugonu should show up super frequently, and have wrath be reduced if you switch inside the Abyss. Shafts are good after about XL 6 and never stop being exciting.
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Nov 16, 2016 16:48
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I've never had trouble with Shoals??? It's really not that bad.
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Nov 16, 2016 21:08
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When I play a tab-melee character, after mindelay on my top-tier weapon (+1 or +2 drain buffer), I tend to just leave one or more of my defenses on turned on at all times, even while skilling spells or evo.
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Nov 17, 2016 02:56
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Mahkleb allies or Abyss scumming, probably. Edit: going super-stealthy would help too. Nightstalker Ds of Dith? Speleothing fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Nov 17, 2016 15:07
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I'm pretty sure they can show up in the abyss. It's just rarer because you teleport to new maps pretty often
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Nov 18, 2016 18:27
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How good are Mana Vipers in extended? I'm thinking of dropping PArrow now that it's outlived its usefulness.
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Nov 23, 2016 02:10
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I would have Firestorm, Shatter, and Glaciate. So damage output is good, if not very target-specific, maybe I should drop one of those three for OoD.
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Nov 23, 2016 02:36
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Floodkiller posted:It's possible, but you have to play console. I don't know if the app on the Google Play store has updated to the most recent version yet. I play Android console every day during my lunch break. It works even on a fairly small phone, but only has the latest stable version, not Trunk. I imagine it will update to 0.19 in the next couple weeks.
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Nov 24, 2016 15:34
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Nov 24, 2016 17:51
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Carcer posted:Whats a good brand for a triple sword? I've got an elec one but I'm thinking either flaming or freezing would be better. Freezing is technically a slightly better endgame brand than flaming. Because draconians and OoFs. Try to ninja the rune. Formicids can get abyssed.
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Nov 25, 2016 15:10
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Seems like bad luck. Elf has really good loot, and you honestly need the XP now that Lair, lair branches, and Orc have been cut back so much. No reason to skip it unless you're a stabber. Sorcerers and High Priests are definitely the most dangerous elves, though. Speleothing fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Nov 26, 2016 05:04
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Looks like a +8 Sacred Scourge to me
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Nov 28, 2016 15:17
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Darox posted:Honestly with any berserker you can just turn fighting/armour/dodging on and focus your weapon skill at the start then leave it like that for the entire game and do fine. You can clear the Lair branches with auto-skilling if you're a MiFi with a low-investment god or a MiBe. Skill allocation is pretty forgiving for them.
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Nov 29, 2016 14:53
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Yeah. You can occasionally swap in Evo or Throwing if you're using them a lot.
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Lost my lunchbreak DEFE of Veh today. 7 runes; relevant spell skills at 23+; 25 dodge, 19 fighting, and 19 evo; Firestorm, Glaciate, and Shatter at 2-4% depending on rings. Bunch of lvl6 spells. Crushed Zot, Tomb & Cerebov like little babies but got overconfident with a random PanLord one-on-one. My comments on exploring deep into postgame with a character that I was willing to risk: A) Bring back rMut. Even killing Necqoxecs in one hit, Cacodemons in two, and Orbs in three isn't fast enough to deal with their bullshit. And I had the Hat Of The Alchemist, afaik the only remaining source outside of race/god B) Make the Pan runes spawn faster. I went through about twenty levels, mostly completely cleared, before I found my only one C) BRING BACK BUFFS I kept dropping spell levels into different flavors of attack spells because there aren't many defensive spells left. Speleothing fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Carcer posted:Its a good survey and the perfect platform for pushing for CRAB RACE. Is that a new Sprint map?
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Sojenus posted:all i want for christmas is perfectly resistant rMut or removal of malmutate/addition of a playable crab race Fiddler species start with one hand missing in exchange for a unique Claws mutation. Very high armor aptitude. Also water-breathing. Also, in Crab Race you have to be sure to close the doors behind you so that the pursuing crabs don't catch up.
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LordSloth posted:. . . The guardian golem is really nice when it explodes, leaving behind lasting clouds of flame- . . . . . . I have not yet tried the * ability to cast without mp, since I found a ring of magic early . . . a) WHY is this effect not listed? I've been skipping guardian golem because it can't so much as throw a punch b) I have never gotten a rune with a mage without either a ring of magic or staff of power. It's such an essential piece of gear that I kind of think that MP should just be boosted
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I really wish Jivya would get revamped so we could have Jelly Knights as a starting class
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IronicDongz posted:no, it's a "these were actually annoying yet optimal for actual human beings playing the game" argument. No they weren't. They were valuable for lots of players, particularly melee types, who had time to cast a spell or two between seeing a dangerous enemy and engaging. They were also a good investment of spell levels for people who had lvl 8 & 9 attack spells online and needed to up their survivability quickly.
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Can I pause this argument for a moment to confirm the consensus that Ogres need a positive (+1 or better) M&F apt?
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Dec 14, 2016 17:40
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That's the point, that Ogres have xp problems which aren't solved by making it harder to kill things.
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Dec 14, 2016 18:18
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I think we call those lamps, phials, and sacks
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Dec 14, 2016 18:21
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Floodkiller posted:You also have the option to create your own branch, and if the only thing you care about is high elves, you probably just need to learn git to exclude any updates related to the removal of high elves. The species_data code is actually pretty modular and simple compared to what it used to be, and high elves don't have any special abilities that could be deleted, so it should be relatively easy to maintain. Not if we want our wins recorded online. Or want spectators. Or want to post our morgues for advice.
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Floodkiller posted:For the second point, streaming sites are available and you can always post a link in the thread or the Discord. For the third, the functionality to dump a morgue is already a function of the game, and you can proceed to paste bin it for advice. Requiring outside services for functions I used to have at my fingertips. And crawl has plenty enough lag without trying to stream. Now I guess I get to start a list of things that need to be fixed: * rMut * Malmutate * High level buffs * Ogre M&F apt * Pan runes take too long to spawn
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Leaving without the rune ought to not count as a loss. I mean, you were smart enough to recognize that you're not strong enough to win, right?Internet Kraken posted:He's played 2000+ HE games but only 16 Tengu games so maybe that's why he thinks they are really similar. 
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Was playing 0.19 on my phone today. OgHu, got a +2 GSC of Speed {rF+, rElec, rN+} on d:4 ish. Proceeded to smash absolutely everything, no fucks given. Until I died to hubris vs acid blobs.
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dpeg posted:I don't think Haste Other would be a good spell: it'd improve the power of your crew considerably. At the expense of coming relatively late, I guess? I could see the effect on a wand, but not on a spell. Thinking about ally buffs is interesting, but I find it hard to come up with ideas that don't fall flat outright. The reason for this, of course, is that spells demand much higher standards than consumables or god powers. In my opinion, you could drop it to level 5 and it would be fairly easy to cast in heavier armors, and there are a lot of gods that provide ally summons (also Hep buddies wouldn't need to have haste-self as a spell). It would also serve a beckoning-like function in getting chaff to stand between you and something really dangerous while you high-tailed it to the stairs. And wands of Haste can already be targeted, unless you're proposing one with a lot more charges to spend on your allies..
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dpeg posted:Re: wands of haste: There's been discussion about removing all of /haste, /heal wounds, /teleportation, and one can hope this will happen before 0.20. Better revamp Ru, then. I read the dev wiki occasionally, and really like the postgame-roulette for 11 total runes idea
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Those wands are kind of insane. It's easy to compensate on a finer grained basis with the consumable versions, do characters really need the force multiplier of what is effectively like, a random 15-stack of haste potions? Actually, yes. We do
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