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Parliament must vote on whether the UK can start the process of leaving the EU, the High Court has ruled. This means the government cannot trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty - beginning formal exit negotiations with the EU - on its own. Theresa May says the referendum - and existing ministerial powers - mean MPs do not need to vote, but campaigners called this unconstitutional. The government is appealing, with a further hearing expected next month. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37857785 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-fears-brexit-betrayal-9186699 Nigel Farage has warned fellow politicians that any attempt to block or delay Britain's exit from the European Union will be met with untold anger from the public. In a statement released after the historic High Court ruling on Article 50 the interim Ukip leader said he fears a Brexit "betrayal" is on the horizon. The judges ruled that the government doesn't have the power to trigger two-year exit process Article 50 without a vote by MPs. Farage campaigned vigorously for Brexit and declared the June 23 referendum Britain's "independence day" after the shock result was confirmed. Someday the British court ruling on Brexit may be studied as a milestone in parliamentary democracy. For now, though, it throws Britain’s fateful move to part ways with the European Union into considerable disarray. On Thursday, a three-judge panel of the High Court unanimously ruled that since Parliament voted in 1972 to join the predecessor of the E.U., the government cannot withdraw from the union without Parliament’s approval, even though 51.9 percent of voters backed a departure in a June 23 referendum. The case was brought by private citizens who argued that the government could not unilaterally strip away rights granted with membership in the bloc. Prime Minister Theresa May and her cabinet, aware that a majority of the members of Parliament had been against leaving, argued that the government did have authority, and she pledged last month to trigger the formal, irreversible two-year process for withdrawal by the end of March without a vote by Parliament. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/opinion/parliaments-power-over-brexit.html You brits can laugh at us for trying to elect a scammer for big business and a former TV host, but your politics is equally as hosed.
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Brexit is a mistake.
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Nov 4, 2016 02:53
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Oh man, now I want a pretzel, op
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Nov 4, 2016 02:54
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Quick Draw McGraw posted:Oh man, now I want a pretzel, op So go get a pretzel?
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Nov 4, 2016 02:54
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This brexit is making me thirsty
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This brexit is making me thirsty
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Lime Tonics posted:So go get a pretzel? I'm working on it Getting a big soft pretzel no salt
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Nov 4, 2016 02:58
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Quick Draw McGraw posted:I'm working on it No salt? ...the gently caress??!
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Nov 4, 2016 03:01
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they plan to just drag their heels for years with bureaucratic technicalities until everyone forgets they voted to leave
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Nov 4, 2016 03:02
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luv 2 date boys posted:No salt? ...the gently caress??! He did not rule out cheese, let's not be hasty.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:03
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Gamer With Dignity posted:Brexit is a mistake. Yea, but do you give people the autonomy to choose to make a mistake or do you go the authoritarian route and make them do the "right" thing? Like imo, it's better to gently caress up today and make people live with what they chose than to toss off democracy and let elites rule.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:04
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This brexit is making me thirsty
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Nov 4, 2016 03:04
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Zev posted:Yea, but do you give people the autonomy to choose to make a mistake or do you go the authoritarian route and make them do the "right" thing? Like imo, it's better to gently caress up today and make people live with what they chose than to toss off democracy and let elites rule. It's like who ever votes, doesn't matter, unless you are IN.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:05
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Rutibex posted:they plan to just going to drag their heels for years with bureaucratic technicalities until everyone forgets they voted to leave Labour are running scared of UKIP and would hate crime a Pole if they thought it'd get Mondeo man to vote for them so we're 100% for economic suicide even if it goes to parliament
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Nov 4, 2016 03:05
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Lime Tonics posted:He did not rule out cheese, let's not be hasty. Big yes on the cheese sauce. Gonna put a dash of tabasco in there too
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Nov 4, 2016 03:05
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this is a desperation move. the (((global elites))) are flipping their poo poo. they don't know what to think. their end is nigh. the union jack will fly free once again. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 4, 2016 03:06
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Berious posted:Labour are running scared of UKIP and would hate crime a Pole if they thought it'd get Mondeo man to vote for them so we're 100% for economic suicide even if it goes to parliament Most of these words are gibberish and im glad of it
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Nov 4, 2016 03:06
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If parliament is too heavy handed for the brits, perhaps they should adopt the United States system where two senators from a state with 500,000 people can hold the other 350,000 hostage because gays and freedom and what not
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Nov 4, 2016 03:07
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Zev posted:Yea, but do you give people the autonomy to choose to make a mistake or do you go the authoritarian route and make them do the "right" thing? Like imo, it's better to gently caress up today and make people live with what they chose than to toss off democracy and let elites rule. I actually don't know anything about Brexit haha
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Nov 4, 2016 03:06
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Lime Tonics posted:It's like who ever votes, doesn't matter, unless you are IN. I don't understand what you are getting at. Could you explain? I'm kinda dumb... sorry.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:08
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Zev posted:I don't understand what you are getting at. Could you explain? I'm kinda dumb... sorry. Your bribe isn't big enough "PREPARE TO DIE"! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc3IuoZ-zwM
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Nov 4, 2016 03:09
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Zev posted:Yea, but do you give people the autonomy to choose to make a mistake or do you go the authoritarian route and make them do the "right" thing? Like imo, it's better to gently caress up today and make people live with what they chose than to toss off democracy and let elites rule. The people elect representatives to lead them.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:09
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I thought a referendum was them saying that they don't know what to do and letting people vote to pick. I'm not as familiar with British politics as I should be.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:17
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Berious posted:Labour are running scared of UKIP and would hate crime a Pole if they thought it'd get Mondeo man to vote for them so we're 100% for economic suicide even if it goes to parliament ok good, i was worried i might not see to dissolution of the EU in my lifetime
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Nov 4, 2016 03:17
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Zev posted:I thought a referendum was them saying that they don't know what to do and letting people vote to pick. I'm not as familiar with British politics as I should be. They voted to leave and the government won't let them. So they want a re-vote, which is funny as gently caress.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:18
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Lime Tonics posted:They voted to leave and the government won't let them. So they want a re-vote, which is funny as gently caress. It's like if you say you don't care where we eat and let me decide, then you get grumpy when I pick the bar at Applebee's?
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Nov 4, 2016 03:20
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Re-rolls are now a thing.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:21
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its fine to have a revote. but if anyone doesnt like the new results there should of course be a third vote as well
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Nov 4, 2016 03:22
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I had read that people ironically voted to exit thinking that there vote would not matter. It's pretty funny that even when they win, they still don't matter. gently caress everything.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:23
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Rutibex posted:its fine to have a revote. but if anyone doesnt like the new results there should of course be a third vote as well Rock-paper-scissors it, just to be sure.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:23
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This brexit is making me thirsty
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Nov 4, 2016 03:42
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Raus! 
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Nov 4, 2016 03:47
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Zev posted:I thought a referendum was them saying that they don't know what to do and letting people vote to pick. I'm not as familiar with British politics as I should be. The decision still has to be ratified by Parliament, because of the principle of Parliamentary sovereignty - only Parliament can pass binding laws and overrule previous decisions made by Parliament (like, say, joining the EU). It will pass though, it's a non-story - just a boring technical matter of constitutional law that people are misunderstanding and sensationalising.
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Nov 4, 2016 03:51
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but what if the queen says no to Brexit? then what?!
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Nov 4, 2016 04:22
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Pretzels and salt go well together
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Nov 4, 2016 04:38
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This brexit is making me thirsty
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Nov 4, 2016 04:41
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british people are d bags
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Nov 4, 2016 05:04
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The best thing about brexit is how it totally destroyed the credibility of Brits criticizing other stupid countries. The second best is how iPhone prices shot way up due to the new exchange rate and they only have their idiot countrymen to blame.
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Nov 4, 2016 05:27
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they can't agree on how their government even works because none of it was formally codified
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:This brexit is making me thirsty
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