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Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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Codependent Poster posted:

If you all want to make fun of people pre-ordering things go check out the Nintendo Switch thread.

I preordered a switch. And Zelda. And Mass Effect. And South Park.

Why? Cuz I don't care about the reviews, I was going to get them either way but this way they show up at my door and I don't have to think about it any more. poo poo, I don't remember when ME and SP come out other than sometime in March.

You got a problem w/ that cuz I will just quote you sarcastically and then go troll some other posts afterwards.

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Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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BexGu posted:

Dude at least keep your pre-ordering to games that have a hard release date. South Park Fractured But Whole is most likely going to miss it 2017 Q1 release date estimate.

It got delayed again? That's funny.

Hmm...I'm seeing it as 3/31/17

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Jun 14, 2008

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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

That's not fair. Every aspect of writing the reaper plot in all of the games was lazy as gently caress. They weren't going to pull out of that death spiral.

Everyone throws around lovecraftian to describe the reapers, but what they're getting at is existential dread. That theme is best served with a force of nature villain, and that's what the reapers should have been, and it's what they were set up to be by their very backstory. Instead we got space child and reapers who even know Shepard's name and converse with the player like it's an important thing for them to do.

Compare that to something like the ring wraiths from lotr. They knew the name baggins but didn't give a flying gently caress about talking with Frodo or Bilbo. The one time they do meet, Frodo gets shanked because force of nature villains don't sit around asking for one lump of sugar in their tea over biscuits because, to them, the protagonist isn't a person to be reasoned with. A reaper talking to Shepard like sovereign or the rannoch reaper do is equivalent to you having a chat to tell a roach why you're going to kill it before you do. Threats are so mind bogglingly outside of what a reaper should be that it turns them into a caricature, and it really shows that the writers misunderstood the setting they were working with on a fundamental level at all stages of the writing for the reaper plot.

So, no, the laziest writing didn't happen at the end of me3; it happened at the end of me1.

Talking to Sovereign in ME1 was because you turned on a beacon and he responded thinking you were Saren. Then he basically told you that he was going to kill you and you couldn't understand why. So your point is invalid. I mean, I guess he could have totally ignored you but it's a game and they did a good job and came about as close to your ideal as they could.

The reapers were dread in the first game.

But you post is probably just a troll because there is no way that you could actually mean what you said and still be able to bathe and feed yourself.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Avalerion posted:

They mean sending the signal to come in the way they did in ME3. Like why didn't sovereign just call in the rest of the reapers full force the moment he found the citadel relay won't respond, but instead spends centuries trying to fix it? The first game implies they need the citadel relay to get here... but ME3 shows that actually no, it's just a two year trip for them to come in anyway.


The conduit let him bring a geth army to start blowing poo poo up and deal with citadel's security, if he just walked into the council chamber alone and began turning off the citadel's defenses someone presumably would have taken issue with that, spectre or no.

The problem w/ ME3 and ME2, as well, is that the writers didn't actually pay attention to ME1. So things don't make sense. gently caress, it would have sucked, but ME2 could have been:

Collectors take human colonies
They make a new reaper
The new human reaper attacks the citadel and succeeds this time
Game ends w/ reaper invasion

At least this sticks to the basic plot and makes sense.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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No one knows WTF the star child was because even the writers didn't know. They ran out of time and just threw the idea out there and said this is what we are doing.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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I like Aria but that is because I am an idiot who read the EU poo poo and understand who they meant the character to be.

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Jun 14, 2008

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My favorite thing about the MAKO is all the whiners who didn't understand that it was part of the game play and that it's fun to figure out how to get places.

Almost everything is easy to get to. Nothing that matters to the plot is difficult. People just have no patience.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Super No Vacancy posted:

maxing out your bro in like 1 playthrough so you can get samara in me2.

WTF?

You can't get Samara, assuming you mean a relationship. You don't have to do anything to get her, to gain her loyalty, to do anything really.

On top of that, you can max paragon or renegade in the first game.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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It's not like the MAKOs control scheme is something you have to guess at. You can just click start then go to controls and wow there it is.

Also, on the PC you can move and control the cannon independently. It's a welcome improvement.

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Jun 14, 2008

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I hope there is a Quarian and that you can kill them.

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Jun 14, 2008

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marshmallow creep posted:

Peebee...is a boy!? :monocle:

Peebee is Trump?

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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I want an Elcor and a Hanar Rosencrantz and Guildenstern duo.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Lord Cyrahzax posted:

Add a volus and we'll be golden.

I don't think you understand the concept of a rosencrantz & guildenstern.

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Jun 14, 2008

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marshmallow creep posted:

Someone has to play Hamlet.

That was already done with an all Elcor cast.

But the R&G trope doesn't have to involve anyone else.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Phrosphor posted:

What is everyone going to call the main character to avoid using their first name?

Will you Pathfinder to everyone, including your love interest? Or will they all call you Ryder?

My dude will be Ryder. My chick will be Rydim

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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I didn't craft a single thing in DAI. It was completely unnecessary.

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Jun 14, 2008

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If crafting is in MEA it will be worse than DA2.

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Jun 14, 2008

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I don't care about being able to change my characters face or craft anything. I'd rather all that time be put into the actual game. The thing that 100% of the people use and see. Catering to percentages just weakens the game in general. If the game is 100% complete and polished then sure, add some useless crap. But that never happens any more so all the crafting and customization is just time away from making the game better.

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Jun 14, 2008

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BrianWilly posted:

I like crafting because it's usually more customization options and customization options are good.

Would you rather have crafting or more time put into the actual game?

For instance, what if ME3 had as "robust" a crafting system as DAI. Would you keep the crafting or take all that time and effort and put it into the main game?

I know it's sort of apples and oranges because they are likely different teams, but it's still man hours being put into something that doesn't matter and the ME3 problem was the writing. Point stands, though.

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Jun 14, 2008

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That Eurythmics poo poo is so loving lame. It was dumb in the 80s. It's worse now.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

the last 10 min of 3.

Uh. Perhaps you need to replay the series again. ME3 is pretty bad from start to finish. It's a great game, other than the ending, on its own. But as a finale it is incredibly flawed over and over again.

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Jun 14, 2008

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SubponticatePoster posted:

I'm sorry, but if you are dissing the Eurythmics I'm going to have to ask you to step outside, sir.

I'm dissing the Asari (and Annie Lennox) for the stupid eye makeup.

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Jun 14, 2008

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I say just intercut some hardcore porn whenever there is a sex scene.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Oh boy. $5 to play MEA on my bone. For 10 hours. Then I have to wait for my PS4 copy to arrive on release day. Then I can play those 10 hours again. But now I will already know what is going on. And will have to wait 10 hours to get to new content.

Where do I sign up?

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Jun 14, 2008

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Anyone know why in ME1 the number of buttons you have to press to do a manual unlock on things varies? Even with maxed stuff, it's still all over the place.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Milky Moor posted:

Pretty sure it depends on the difficulty of the item in question. Don't they have different ratings and you need higher levels of Decryption or whatever to make the attempt?

Doesn't matter if it is easy/hard/advanced or whatever. It seems early on everythign is 3 clicks, but by level 50 everything is 5. Doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason. Or the programming is just broken.

Really think that once you have something maxed it should just open. But whatever. 9 year old game. When they do the remake, they should smooth that out.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Lycus posted:

Yeah, once you get past the early parts of the game, you should have enough omnigel to omnigel almost every lock. Don't sell stuff, there's nothing worth buying in that game.

Once you hit 50, XP doesn't matter. But buying the spectre gear is worth it. At 50 you can load everyone up. The problem is selling off mods. The good ones stop dropping once you hit the 40s. Well, some of them.

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Jun 14, 2008

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orcane posted:

How are you gonna hit 60 if XP doesn't matter? :smuggo:

I've hit 60. Took 2 full playthroughs and then hit 60 right after I got to the Citadel. It is doable to do in 2, but your 2nd playthrough you have to be drat near perfect.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Drifter posted:

I mean, there are really solid guns you can buy from vendors. I think there are many more better options than the Spectre gear, given the price.

Nope. There are a couple guns that are arguably better than spectre 7s. Nothing is better than the s10s in any category. And since $$$ is basically nothing at that point, there is no reason not to get 7 spectre guns so everyone has their main weapon ready to go.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Drifter posted:

You're talking about minuscule percent differences by that time and zero gameplay differentiation, however. It's not worth it. It's like, busy work to go buy another set of weapons.

Uh....the guy is right next to your squad lockers. You pick up a ton of poo poo as you go. It's literally walking to him, selling a bunch of poo poo and buying the weapons. I guess you could 100% ignore that stuff if you want. However, if you are playing on the higher difficulties it definitely makes a difference.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Bud K ninja sword posted:

or vanguard and ABC

We've been discussing ME1. The one where vanguards aren't particularly special.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Bud K ninja sword posted:

i just always treated it like the lovely part of the hero cycle where the hero actually kinda sucks.

Naw. You start as an adept and then when you die and go into the weird fever dream you can become anything you want.

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Jun 14, 2008

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Sentinel needs more love.

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Jun 14, 2008

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If you are plinking away from behind cover as a sentinel, you are doing it wrong.

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Melee vs space gunz. Clearly the writers have improved.

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Jun 14, 2008

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What is the max # you can score on a bang run?

1 - consort, romance
2 - Jack, romance...anyone else?
3 - I think it's more for girl shep, isn't it? LIke you can bang toothbrush girl. I think it's romance, reporter ho and maybe one other.

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marshmallow creep posted:

I think in 2 you can gently caress Jack, sleep with Liara as part of the DLC, and then do your regular romance, at least if you imported a save where you romanced Liara in ME1.

This makes sense. I know you can't do Liara if you romance someone else before the DLC.

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Jun 14, 2008

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marshmallow creep posted:

And then you could give Morinth a ring if you're that desperate for more.

Don't you have to romance her?

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The best thing about the Normandy in ME3 is

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