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logikv9 posted:oh yeah, boosted can post here if he wants. yuge if true
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Nov 8, 2016 06:13
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crazy cloud posted:Shenji nooooo
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Nov 8, 2016 14:05
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STAC Goat posted:Laura Ingraham just opened her segment by predicting a LSU national championship. Talking to some friends in PA, there were already lines at 715 am in places that are normally in and out.
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Nov 8, 2016 14:09
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Alter Ego posted:Clearly all those people are voting TRUMP 
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Nov 8, 2016 14:18
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Spotted, trump poll watcher in PA.
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Nov 8, 2016 14:20
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brand name canned soup posted:is it illegal to write-in a string of obscenities nope
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Nov 8, 2016 14:23
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FAUXTON posted:report that poo poo to the authorities or your local HFA/state Dems field office right god drat now. its second hand from a friend, so I can't do anything about it but she was pressuring people to vote trump
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Nov 8, 2016 14:26
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Oil of Paris posted:whats the little bag say? VOTER PROTECTING FRUM? For some reason the upload was super low quality, but "VOTER PROTECTION TEAM"
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Nov 8, 2016 14:33
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Oil of Paris posted:thx it made me feel like i was going blind lol we all are from the booze we've been guzzling for the last year
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Nov 8, 2016 14:53
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misty mountaintop posted:Lol did it get closed at 140880 pages on purpose. total coincidence
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Nov 8, 2016 15:06
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euphronius posted:Endless hotwkngs 
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Nov 8, 2016 15:10
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Turdfuzz posted:i fell asleep how are things going
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Nov 8, 2016 23:51
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ugh, my election party doesn't start until 730 or so and I have to drive to get there so no drinking for like an hour and a half
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Nov 8, 2016 23:53
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Vox Nihili posted:FIVE MINUTES my
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Nov 8, 2016 23:59
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Jazerus posted:he is a breakfast sandwich i had one this morning, made sure to get the egg white version for maximum reflection of reality.
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Nov 9, 2016 00:45
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Corny posted:ABC has her winning college educated white women by 32 loving POINTS HOLY poo poo 
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Nov 9, 2016 00:57
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:I don't watch any TV news normally, what the gently caress CATHEDER commercials? How old is TV news' audience?? if it's fox news, like 68+
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Nov 9, 2016 00:59
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Nov 9, 2016 01:02
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Beet Wagon posted:pro-tip: you can get surplus Soviet firearms like an SKS or an old mosin for way cheaper than an M1. You'll need to clean the poo poo out of them cause they've been sitting in cosmoline for decades, but they'll do you just as well as an M1, but tbh neither the mosin or the M1 are really optimal for any kind of defense. Like 5 hundy for a yugo.
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Nov 11, 2016 02:32
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Beet Wagon posted:
Yeah, it's gotten absurd in the last few years, a hex mosin 91/30 is like 280 now.
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Nov 11, 2016 02:35
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Serf posted:I know several people who literally only care about their right to own guns, mostly for hunting. I tried to explain multiple times that hunting and sporting weapons are not gonna be affected, to no avail Yeah, this would really help, but it's going to take years until single issue gun voters don't think that dems "are trying to trick them" I don't even know how you demonstrate it to people like that.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:53
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Captain Internet posted:Man these FYGM people are going to be so loving bummed their investments are going to tank because our idiot president provides literally no national financial stability and instills zero investor faith. Yeah, I tried to explain poo poo like this to my little sister and her boyfriend but they were basically like 'don't care, I don't have a 401k or stocks or a full time job' Younger people who voted for trump have no memory of 2007-~2010 chock full of fun like foreclosures everywhere, RIFs at large companies on an almost monthly basis. It's more of "gently caress You, I don't have anything anyway".
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Nov 11, 2016 04:01
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Venom Snake posted:Oh god dem HQ's in VA are being attacked really? on cnn or something?
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Nov 11, 2016 04:08
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Serf posted:thinking about it now, what we need is a liberal alternative to the NRA There's the SAF, they work mostly on the judicial side though. I don't think there's really a liberal alternative to the NRA except an upstart like this: http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/talking-points-regarding-regulation/
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Nov 11, 2016 04:20
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KiteAuraan posted:get mocked viciously by their grandson who told them that the republicans would loving pull that poo poo and not to support them. p much
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Nov 11, 2016 06:02
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Slamhound posted:Serious question: Is there any election post-mortem wherein the people who voted for Trump are in any way, at least marginally responsible for Trump winning? No because they won't admit it. Other than that news story from Erie, PA earlier where everyone basically said 'poo poo better get better fast or we're holding him responsible'.
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Nov 11, 2016 07:54
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FAUXTON posted:Lol like joe shitkicker from Erie PA who has probably voted for deregulation a dozen times is going to suddenly know who hosed him Yeah, it's almost like hillary should have gotten behind the disenfranchised lower to middle class in the rust belt with something other than 'it'll be fine, don't worry, here's lady gaga'
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Nov 11, 2016 08:05
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anime was right posted:her lady gaga poo poo seemed like a way to win over millenials or something, which didn't work. Pretty much, I'd love to see a breakdown of millennials/people under 35 based on income breakdown and state. I have no idea if these number even could exist anywhere. From what I saw, which is purely anecdotal, younger millennials (18-25/26 or so, first time voting in an incumbent party election) were for trump because they didn't have to live through 2008's recession, and older millennials (28-35) were all for clinton because the loving bed making GBS threads of the economy hosed them when they came into the labor market in the 2006-2010 time frame.
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Nov 11, 2016 08:15
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Slamhound posted:What exactly did Trump offer the rust belt that was more coherent or specific than "it'll be fine, don't worry"? Bringing manufacturing jobs back, that's used to be the bedrock of rural PA-OH-MI.
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Nov 11, 2016 08:16
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Admiral Ray posted:Shoulda gotten the techies in on Clinton's campaign coulda offered all them old hands 3D printers so they could manufacture again. This could have worked if there was a more coherent message on the fact that we're a post assembly line worker country, but that doesn't mean we can't manufacture things that are more technology oriented, better then a rest of the world...etc. Hell I think even if she focused on infrastructure more and educating the workforce for new jobs in technology based manufacturing she would have done way better in PA. Also it's a campaign, promise the moon and the stars to get in, then do what you can to get poo poo done. Who cares if your plans won't ever actually happen. I think that was the big pull or Bernie in the primary and Trump through the whole election. America wants a grand idea, big plans and to at least try something new now.
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Nov 11, 2016 08:25
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Oh Snapple! posted:anecdotal but this is mostly my experience from the general. I'm 28 finishing my bachelor's degree, in groups with largely affluent 18-22 millenials, and they're both mostly women and mostly trump-leaning folks. they don't like hillary. they didn't give a gently caress about trump's sexist poo poo. they roll their eyes at stories of minorities not going in to work or stuff like that because they very legitimately think it's silly and that there's no danger. though to be frank, they don't care about much of anything because they're affluent and blatantly don't have to. Admiral Ray posted:This about matches my anecdotes of young voters. They don't take it seriously but then again they don't think racism is even a thing, really. They're color-blind. Same from talking to my college aged sister and mostly her friends, they are all affluent (because they are in college, so of course they are to even go to college without grants/loans) They thing racism is over and everyone can do what they did because mom and dad will write the check every month, sometimes you have to live through stressful poo poo and being the youngest person at a company and first on the chopping block to realize how close you can be to getting axed for nothing more than corporate profits and then be poo poo out of luck in a terrible economy, 2007-2011/12 was stressful as poo poo for me because there were firing every few months. e: Slamhound posted:The only difference between Clinton and Trump in this instance is Lady Gaga. Plinkey posted:This could have worked if there was a more coherent message on the fact that we're a post assembly line worker country, but that doesn't mean we can't manufacture things that are more technology oriented, better then a rest of the world...etc. Hell I think even if she focused on infrastructure more and educating the workforce for new jobs in technology based manufacturing she would have done way better in PA. Plinkey fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Slamhound posted:Okay, now we have something. So moving along, is this something that is likely to happen and/or be of actual value to the rust belt? No, any new manufacturing will most likely be in the south because of weaker labor laws.
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Nov 11, 2016 08:36
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Admiral Ray posted:Oh yeah, lying during a campaign is, like, the thing to do to get votes. Then you've just gotta be seen trying to fulfill those promises. 
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Nov 11, 2016 08:46
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Slamhound posted:Jesus loving Christ, dude. I specifically started this line of inquiry because of your post: Ok, I see where you're coming from, the difference in my mind is that the people of the rural rust belt will get less hosed under Clinton but she didn't make that point, at all. There are safety nets in place at the federal level through the ACA and other programs like that, which she didn't harp on, you even had Bill calling the ACA a mess. Are they still hosed unless there's a change in how the economy works around the great lakes, probably, but to a lesser extent when they are unemployed and no one will sign them up for health care because they have whatever existing conditions. Could manufacturing come back to the areas? Probably but I doubt it in any measurable extent but at least you have someone in the white house that's going to offer up/improve programs for these people specifically, and having the richer america pay for it because they are the beneficiaries of the last 8 years, they've been hosed over for like 10+ years not seeing incomes go up and hearing about how great the economy is. I don't blame any of them for voting trump because he straight up said external factors are the reason they are hurting which is a comforting thing to hear, but I think it's short sighted.
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Nov 11, 2016 09:02
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Any answers? The electoral college? It's the lovely system we have that's a hold over from 100s of years ago. Or do you mean like by county/legislative district?
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Nov 11, 2016 09:20
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Yes. What is the advantage of keeping the EC compared to a simple majority national referendum for POTUS? None really, except that you get hyper advertising and spending on election in like 15 out of the 50 states, so the rest of the country feels super disenfranchised, why even go to Iowa/ND/SD/MT when it's got less votes the the NYC metro? "Real America" loses out.
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Nov 11, 2016 09:27
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Slamhound posted:Stipulating all of this, how or what exactly could Clinton have done or promised that would be different than what Trump promised? If the ACA needs massive reform, how do you express that in any way that's significantly different than "We're gonna replace it with something great…so great….it's gonna be the greatest thing…you're gonna love it..." If you're telling the truth you can't, it's a hosed up system that needs reform but democrats are afraid to do that and upset the status quo. Or you come out like Bernie and pledge a single payer system/medicare for all under a certain income level/tax increase if you're over it or whatever system you can come up with. Industry would be things like solar plants but they got a really bad wrap over the last 8 years so it was economically unfeasible, promising to build more nuclear power plants to get america off oil hurts your base because they are retarded. If obama ran on ACA with the foresight that it would raise premiums for most people because of the details he'd never have gotten elected. What I'm saying is you lay out grand plans, then figure out how much you can do, which is exactly what Trump did, but there's a lot of bad poo poo that comes along with Trump from his stump speeches. e: Obama was good at the 'hard pill to swallow' talk, but the country was in a literal crisis so it's different. Plinkey fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Fair point. That does seem the only viable argument (though flawed). Yeah, the EC is a hold over from a states right kind of thinking.
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Is the weighting of the EC adjusted and if so how often? Ever 10 years I think, in line with the census. Right now if you live in NH you have like a 10:1 voting power than someone in CA/DC
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