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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:And you can thank me for blacking up movies because that's literally my loving job, even though I'm tainted with the cracker blood You're doing some drat fine work. Out of curiosity is that literally literally literally or internet hyperbole literally?
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negromancer posted:A Burn Notice fan. Yeah, that's a good opinion.
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So anyone want to take bets that the quoted poster complains about PC?
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Jan 6, 2017 01:31
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Death Bot posted:Black people votes Clinton 88-8, the gently caress thread do you think this is Hey now, white people voted 88 as well. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
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Is a lot of the issue with Bernie and not trusting him based in the context of the long history of white people talking a good game about racial issues right up until they started getting pushback and then immediately turning and selling black people right the gently caress out to get their financial issues focused on? I'm reasonably confident it is, but I think that's something some of the white people aren't getting when they look at the situation and why not being able to trust the person even if the platform sounds good is such a big deal.
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Jan 8, 2017 22:12
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Seven loving days too. God drat.
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Jan 10, 2017 02:17
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flashman posted:If you think that paranoid weirdos who think aliens built the pyramids are white washing history you are as mentally unsound as them. When the starting point is an argument from incredulity and there's theories about wide swaths of monumental architecture that just so happens to be made by people of color? That's not subtle at all, man. Saying there's no way non-white people could've done that is whitewashing history because it's denying the history of everyone who isn't white, and it's based on an ill-informed idea of unadvanced ancients that's practically a dog trombone.
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Jan 13, 2017 20:12
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Racism isn't just a matter of intent, it's a matter of the assumptions behind your beliefs and the context and result of your actions. You don't have to be intentionally out to marginalize PoC to have assumptions that mean you easily disbelieve their accomplishments and marginalize their history.
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Jan 13, 2017 23:00
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there wolf posted:Have you every heard of Bayard Rustin? Actually yes. I lived next to a high school named after him and I have no loving clue whatsoever about anything else about the man.
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Jan 16, 2017 19:43
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there wolf posted:Bayard Rustin was the person who sold MLK on the idea of non-violent protest. He was an early civil rights leader who supported King, as well as being a gay, pacifist, communist, which is why it's awesome that there's a high school named after him. Sweet. That is really cool to have been near even such a small window into a history ignored.
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Jan 16, 2017 21:32
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Fluffdaddy posted:And my response is the same. We gotta eat. We didn't create the system but we have to live in it while simultaneously fighting it. Economic opportunity is difficult to find for black folks, so we take what we can get, even if it means being a part of a hosed up system. From your family's experience, how much does trying to make it better from the inside count for, is it even possible, or is it just keeping your head down and surviving?
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Jan 19, 2017 05:46
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Koalas, TB or Fluffdaddy off the top of my head (I have no idea how they post in other parts of the forum, but they're good here). Honestly fluffdaddy's probably my top pick right now. Less likely that folks'll go incendiary.
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Jan 19, 2017 21:31
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Fluffdaddy posted:I personally won't be posting here that much anymore, just because its just going to be pages of even more driveby shitposting, but I appreciate the gesture. That'll be a loss if you don't post here much anymore, hopefully things work out to where you'd want to.
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Jan 20, 2017 01:53
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SealHammer posted:But nobody forced posters to only post in the "blackness" thread when they wanted to discuss identity politics. The relevance of identity politics in any given issue is something that is going to be debated, and you have to be prepared to debate it at length if you bring it up. That's the nature of discourse. This has been the only place where you sometimes can actually discuss it without people making GBS threads up the discussion and the moderation cocking things up. If you tried to have some of the discussions in this thread in uspol they'd get buried in unproductive poo poo so fast your head would spin. There's some discussions you can't have with dumbasses barging in and rejecting the basic facts of the discussion and you getting hammered because something something you're causing the disruption.
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Kelp Me! posted:
I've got friends who identify as such.
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it's singularly unique in that it is extremely hard to differentiate between religious and cultural aspects. I've had multiple rabbis agree with me that "Atheist Jew" is absolutely a thing, but boy you should see people try to wrap their heads around that one sometimes 
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teen witch posted:That poor loving woman. Apparently she's been on the podcast?
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Jan 21, 2017 17:53
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Koalas March posted:There's nothing wrong with somebody rolling in and saying thanks. It's real good to get a perspective on what the thread discusses and have it to keep it in my head, especially considering I'm stuck in a real corner of the southeast that's self-segregated as hell. I've been looking for words to get that thanks across, because it's real good being able to get past the racism 101 chat to the stuff that it's kind of hard for white people to get a look at the various perspectives to be had. Hopefully I'm getting what I mean across. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 21, 2017 |
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I think a lot of the problem is that you can't address all aspects of the problem at once, it's always a change to something at a particular time, and there's just so much inertia in the system that unless you make something that explicitly recognizes race (and is thus unpalatable in the extreme), people are still going to get left behind if there's a way for them to be left behind. There is some hope that people might be able to work fewer jobs and thus free some up for other people though.
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Jan 23, 2017 18:19
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Panfilo posted:What groups would disproportionately benefit from increasing the minimum wage? Should we base it on the group that has the highest % of its members living on minimum wage, or the biggest group in the US that makes minimum wage? Don't forget the people above minimum wage who would see increases to keep their jobs more palatable than minimum wage jobs. However I'd say that the former is more accurate than the latter.
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Jan 23, 2017 18:21
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crazy cloud posted:what's the title of this thread referencing? Stuff like this. negromancer posted:This happened to me when I applied for Twitter. The person they hired couldn't tell you 3 of the OWASP top 10 but he got the job. So I pretty much blasted them at every conference I spoke at for a year. Their HR person reached out to me and let me know them going with the other candidate wasn't personal, it was a "culture fit", to which I then included said email into my talk. I apparently burned a few bridges I didn't care to walk across at that point doing so.
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Koalas March posted:I have considered maybe starting a USPol type thread where we can talk about all the recent news breaks and how things target or effect poc, lgbt, refugees, antifa etc. Absolutely.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:People who think all other religions are just palette-swapped American Protestantism are pretty much the Johnny Tremains of the hot take industry. In any case, it's not on topic for this, the black people thread about black people when the rainbow is enuf. There are many other places on the internet that will appreciate the rakish angle of your trilby. Is palette-swapped American Protestantism even palette-swapped American Protestantism? There seem to be significant differences within it that get magnified when crossing racial lines. I'd be real interested in hearing about black experiences of Christianity both where they intersect with and where they are separate from White practice if somebody has opinions they'd like to share.
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Feb 6, 2017 23:03
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VikingofRock posted:Don't most white people not even have any non-white friends? I remember reading some statistic about that and being pretty blown away by it. So I bet for a lot of white people it's not that they can't connect the two dots, it's that they don't even really realize the two dots exist. I wound up moving to the south through some choices of my own and some of my parents and I'm not currently in touch with any people who aren't white outside the internet. poo poo sucks and I'd have to make a conscious effort (that I have no idea how to do in a non-lovely manner) to make friends that aren't white.
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teen witch posted:Not disagreeing on the many merits of dead racists; it's more of this odd bitterness I feel when I see white people being psyched about the deaths of "bad" white people and being quiet about, y'know, black history month or any sort of positive POC things. At least to me it comes off as a focus on black history as something that white people act in and inflict upon black people. We've already got 11 months of white people doing things, and they're still falling into the trap of looking at a situation and immediately going to the white people in the picture, rather than trying to understand the black people and their history.
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thechosenone posted:Okay, I'm glad to hear that wanting income equality isn't entirely worthless. As it is, I'm just going to lay off the debate and discussion forums right now, since I seem to have worked myself into tears thinking about how useless I am. I apologize for wasting your time, but I appreciate that you were so kind as to waste it on me. I hope one day I can be something other than utterly worthless, and maybe even be halfway helpful to people sometimes. I now this sounds facetious, but I really am a a piece of poo poo, and I hope one day I can be someone people can say was worth being born. You're reminding me of me in the middle of my breakdown. Worry about you. You've got a lot of time to pay things off but if and only if you're wallowing in it you are actually justified. Get therapy and or meds so you can be helpful. Hell, my life's a shitshow and I don't get to do more than slacktivism a lot of the time, but I'm no good to anyone having another freak out and at least I can try and advocate people to be a bit less poo poo. And hell I guess I create some value at my day job, but that's mostly maintenance for me and maybe some other incidental good comes of it. If you want someone to try and talk you through things feel free to message me or something.
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Veskit posted:It's not what I think it is it's what i Hope it becomes and I don't think puting a dude in jail for 17 years for being a racist jackass is progress on any level. Also cheering it as much as I've seen. I'm torn on it. I'm kind of glad to see the fangs coming out in this case, and I hope it actually leads to people giving it a more critical look, but it's probably just another one of those cases where it goes over the line to where everyone's comfortable throwing the book at them and is going to get used to normalize all sorts of wildly inappropriate punishments in the future and is just the exception that proves the rule.
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Jack Gladney posted:The wildly inappropriate punishment was normalized already: they were sentenced under laws that classified "gang activity" as terrorism. Also they refused a plea bargain, plea bargains being the other half of how and why grotesquely long sentences are normalized. Yeah, I mean their case being used in opposition to campaigns against that punishment, because it's fair or something similar.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:This was one of those situations where it was better to avoid pointing it out when the criminal was white as the first time you're seen making the argument. poo poo, is that what I've been doing wrong? I've been wanting to change my av forever and have been angling for a red text just to waste somebody's cash on it. Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Yeah we agitate about the abuses of the criminal justice system for literal centuries, but white people only show up when it's one of their own up against the wall. People here love to go "well obviously harm to minorities is bad too," but it's not obvious you think that, because you never mention it unprompted. It's just a defense mechanism when someone points out what humanitarians you all become when white people make the news. Hell, I'm trying not to be trash but that's the first thing I had to say on the subject for a while just because it doesn't get mentioned when it isn't white people. It's easy to let things slide into the background when they happen on an ongoing basis.
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You should take a step back and read what you said. You're making a pretty strong implication about majority black areas and if you're saying that's what they believe you aren't clear about it and if you aren't maybe the fact that I'm not sure whether you are should be a red flag. She's deliberately trying to push you hard enough that you can't back away from it but have to engage with it, so don't try and write it off as her being a drama queen. Own up to saying it and know that that doesn't have to be you but you have to separate it from you rather than digging in to defend it.
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whydirt posted:If you really wanted the sundown forum to mimic real life, you'd continue it in April saying "it just wasn't the right time to end it." I'd support getting rid of it, but they're just so rude about wanting it gone.
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there wolf posted:Yeah. Even if it is different in the Philippines or more complicated or whatever, that all went away the moment they moved this woman to the US. Couldn't speak the language, no income, and a dicey immigration situation, what choice did she have but to stay with the people who couldn't even bother to give her an actual loving place to sleep at night. Also, if it's different there, then comment on the wrongness of the things that made it different and whether they're enough, rather than saying it's different to brush off having to be introspective. Bringing it back on the thread's main topic, brushing things off like that rather than thinking about the similarities is how white people treat the past (at least as far as white people talking among themselves goes, I bet it's not nearly as polite outside that context). xthetenth fucked around with this message at 19:50 on May 18, 2017 |
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Morby posted:I'm sorta in the same boat. County where I live went 75% for Trump. County where I work went a bit over half for Hillary. What I'm experiencing is that white folks just straight up do not want to engage at all about any of this. They're "sick of politics". Interesting. That hasn't really been my experience as a white dude talking to white people. Someone I've had a hard time with earlier on some things has come around in a pretty big way. I think now's a pretty good time if any white allies want to actually earn that second word.
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PathAsc posted:Look, I'm trying to follow your logic and the phase thing, I don't get it but I'd like to. She's saying you're following a pattern of people who come into this thread.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Oh poo poo, I have avs off so I hadn't even realized I had one. Not that the ravening pinkdick horde will ever listen, but buying me redtexts is a huge waste of money if your aim is to hurt my feelings, because avs off foreverrrrr It's a shame because you get some absolutely primo "I pissed off racist shitlord(s) so bad they had to fork over ten bucks and prove how right I am in red text" avs. Your av history is a magnificent trophy rack. (I don't blame you for not wanting to see them though).
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Condiv posted:i was about to freak out cause i love deviled eggs, but i can live with this rule So do I. So do most of us. Give everyone a fair crack at them.
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Condiv posted:i'll just bring lots of deviled eggs so i can pig out and so can everyone else and we're all happy Deviled eggs and aluminum foil. I know my keys to be a welcome guest at a cookout until we learn that actually white people deviled eggs are bad too (Don't worry, we actually use seasoning and spice in our cooking.)
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Keep me up to date on how it goes and if you need a bit more.
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Fluffdaddy posted:Yo if that was you I am crying right now thank you so much. Now I just got to get 200 more and I'll be back on the road next week. Not making it is not a possibility, just keep me in touch.
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Hey fluff, just checking in, is everything sorted out for you?
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Fluffdaddy posted:Just an update on me: Yeah, and getting you out of a hotel into an actual place would save money in the long run, right? If you don't mind me asking, how much is that? Awesome to hear your car is in the shop though. And as far as I'm concerned, when you're able to, pay it forward and tell me how. Probably the best thing I can buy with that money is a bit of liquidity going around helping people get on their feet when they need it.
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