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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:as evidenced by how bernie sanders drove youth turnout during the primary just like corbyn did evidence doesn't matter anymore dude
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Karl Barks posted:what if we just closed it and didn't open a new one Then where will we go to pout about how Bernie would have won even after all the Bernie endorsed candidates keep losing? The Trump thread doesn't wanna hear it, we got bigger fish to fry over there.
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The Nastier Nate posted:Then where will we go to pout about how Bernie would have won even after all the Bernie endorsed candidates keep losing? The Trump thread doesn't wanna hear it, we got bigger fish to fry over there. But have you considered that he would have??
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:
yeah man it's not like the youth had a sitting reminder of what happened the last time they got energized or anything
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Hot take: nobody votes in primary elections and trying to drive turnout of any sort to them is ultimately a fool's errandThe Nastier Nate posted:Then where will we go to pout about how Bernie would have won even after all the Bernie endorsed candidates keep losing? The Trump thread doesn't wanna hear it, we got bigger fish to fry over there. is this a "Bernie's endorsement sunk Ossoff" take or are you just trolling self-importantly
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The Nastier Nate posted:Full communism is really bad. I think the sweet spot is about 40% communism where most poors aren't dying in the streets but the rich can still buy as many new yachts and designer hand bags as they want and don't have to worry about being guillotined. But if we fight for 40% we're only getting 20
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the evidence proved corbyn was going to get trounced and the opposite happened lol
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Oh Snapple! posted:the "he lost open primaries" poo poo is p. disingenuous given that a large chunk of them occurred in the south Didn't realize that people weren't allowed to vote for Bernie in the south.
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Rand alPaul posted:It's sweet watching the first 3 minutes of this 2008 Obama speech and have him mention wealth inequality, people not affording college, people unable to retire, and money being wasted on foreign boondoggles, and then immediately tabbing over to read your post about leftist poo poo not winning elections. merely identifying problems is "leftist poo poo" now? like I thought that was part of Hillary's problem in 2016: it's not enough that she merely acknowledged that wealth inequality, college tuition, health care costs, etc. existed. Whatever she proposed wasn't seen as being sufficient to actually address these problems I mean that was what I thought Bernie's strength was: like his health care plan, you knew what you were getting: free-at-the-point-of-service health care. college? no tuition. Not just "these are problems and I'm gonna address them", which isn't sufficient
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Concerned Citizen posted:Didn't realize that people weren't allowed to vote for Bernie in the south. piss off with this poo poo
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Venom Snake posted:more concurrent information but nothing has changed 
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The Nastier Nate posted:Then where will we go to pout about how Bernie would have won even after all the Bernie endorsed candidates keep losing? The Trump thread doesn't wanna hear it, we got bigger fish to fry over there.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:you might as well run full communists in a R+20 district We can't do that because people like you will freak out about their taxes
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Oh Snapple! posted:piss off with this poo poo Oh Snapple: A Bernie candidate would have won GA-6. But Bernie had no chance in Georgia, it's in the south after all.
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bullock is the only hope imo
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Concerned Citizen posted:Oh Snapple: A Bernie candidate would have won GA-6. But Bernie had no chance in Georgia, it's in the south after all. Ah He Has Defeated You With Logic
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GalacticAcid posted:bullock is the only hope imo And Swearengen. Let's have a Deadwood revival instead of a Democratic Party, is what I'm saying.
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Concerned Citizen posted:Oh Snapple: A Bernie candidate would have won GA-6. But Bernie had no chance in Georgia, it's in the south after all. This is an extremely tepid take, my dude. You're better than this.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:how about 69% It's agreed then. We're for 69% Communism.
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Zhulik posted:This is an extremely tepid take, my dude. You're better than this. lol no he isn't
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:We can't do that because people like you will freak out about their taxes if you can't win a democratic primary because of freaking out over taxes, how do you expect that leftism is gonna win a general election?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:merely identifying problems is "leftist poo poo" now? Obama had actual solutions for them, he just did the opposite of what he said he was going to do once he got elected, the people felt betrayed, and surprise: they didn't show up for him in 2010 or really even in 2012.
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SirPhoebos posted:I'll make a few after work. Thank you
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Oh Snapple! posted:lol no he isn't I mean usually his concern trolling doesn't require everyone present failing to grasp the passage of time as an idea.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:if you can't win a democratic primary because of freaking out over taxes, how do you expect that leftism is gonna win a general election? man. it's getting logicy in here
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Like what the gently caress, you're saying over half the democrats are gonna freak out over taxes, plus we know that the republicans exist only for tax cuts, so what, your position is that 75%+ of the electorate is gonna hate you for talking about a tax raise but somehow leftism is still an unstoppable electoral force if it just made it to the ballot? for gently caress's sake
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Rand alPaul posted:Obama had actual solutions for them, he just did the opposite of what he said he was going to do once he got elected, the people felt betrayed, and surprise: they didn't show up for him in 2010 or really even in 2012. and then centrists told the people feeling betrayed "you guys are so stupid. how could you have tricked yourself into thinking obama was for doing those things" and other gaslighting
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fits my needs posted:lol some lady on NPR is saying if the DCC spent any money in Kansas or South Carolina it would have turned people even more against the Dems so there was no point in spending money or something so why bother spending in georgia? fits my needs posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/politico/status/877579135790567424 know a good solution to end partisan bickering? if all repubs were dead Raskolnikov38 posted:let me introduce you to California's ballot proposition system or "why the early 20th Century progressives were real loving dumb" cant they do an initiative that undoes the previous one?
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Zhulik posted:I mean usually his concern trolling doesn't require everyone present failing to grasp the passage of time as an idea. Yes, I forgot that moment when the entire electorate in the south suddenly became socialist. It's Different Now, which explains why Bernie candidates are winning primaries coast to coast.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:
corbyn didn't necessarily win the leadership election off youth turnout. he was the most popular candidate among every demographic.
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Condiv posted:and then centrists told the people feeling betrayed "you guys are so stupid. how could you have tricked yourself into thinking obama was for doing those things" and other gaslighting They also told them if they didn't like it to get involved. Fast forward to Sanders running and people showing up at party conventions throwing phantom chairs.
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Concerned Citizen posted:Yes, I forgot that moment when the entire electorate in the south suddenly became socialist. It's Different Now, which explains why Bernie candidates are winning primaries coast to coast. the DSA is doing a pretty goddamn good job getting people into local govts. Khalid kamau in GA comes to mind.
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Venom Snake posted:Would yall mind if I closed this thread and opened a new one with more concurrent information in the OP? You're occasional reminders where you think you have some kind of ownership over this thread because you happened to be the OP and have a lanyard is amusing.
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got any sevens posted:cant they do an initiative that undoes the previous one? yes they can also do tax increases by initiative, like prop 30 btw it's not actually illegal to raise taxes it's just really loving hard to do in the legislature. a gas tax increase was passed a few months ago
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Karl Barks posted:what if we just closed it and didn't open a new one There must always be a Suck Zone conrad
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We need charming, personable candidates who can communicate clearly and make people believe they care about their problems. I want sincere progressive versions of the above, but let's be clear about how elections actually work.
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Concerned Citizen posted:Yes, I forgot that moment when the entire electorate in the south suddenly became socialist. It's Different Now, which explains why Bernie candidates are winning primaries coast to coast. Guess who's become the most popular politician in the country since March 2016, guy.
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Thoguh posted:You're occasional reminders where you think you have some kind of ownership over this thread because you happened to be the OP and have a lanyard is amusing. drat Big Venom Snake and his monopoly on democrat threads
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Shear Modulus posted:corbyn didn't necessarily win the leadership election off youth turnout. he was the most popular candidate among every demographic. referring to reversing the predictions of Labour's collapse
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