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Karl Barks posted:also the 2012 campaign was arguably won in the mid west by pushing the auto bailouts. those companies were basically nationalized and they used that poo poo in the ads this is true
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Zhulik posted:Also, kind of hosed up that the overall primary turnout dropped by 45% between 2008 and 2016. What happened there? obama got to pretend he saved the economy when the vast majority of jobs created were in retail and service industry sectors nothing for the millions of americans who lost their homes due to illegal foreclosures at the hands of financial criminals who got off scot free with free money they rewarded themselves with basically dystopian wage-slavery is what obama's america has become. why even try anymore
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Karl Barks posted:hmm when i think about the obama 2008 campaign i think about how he used the words healing and division all the time obama basically ran on gently caress YOUR IRAQ WAR and also HEY THE ECONOMY JUST COLLAPSED DUE TO THESE FUCKOS
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lol this is so disingenuous, the main themes of the campaign were change, hope, and fixing the economy and you know it
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Karl Barks posted:also the 2012 campaign was arguably won in the mid west by pushing the auto bailouts. those companies were basically nationalized and they used that poo poo in the ads that contrasted with romney having said "let detroit go bankrupt" were absolutely the only thing that really mattered
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heres a very early obama stump speech if you want to hear what he actually says (for 2008) https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/1194817112475/obama-s-pennsylvania-stump-speech.html
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Vox Nihili posted:obama basically ran on gently caress YOUR IRAQ WAR and also HEY THE ECONOMY JUST COLLAPSED DUE TO THESE FUCKOS and obama basically led on LETS KILL MORE FUCKIN MUSLIMS WITH ROBOTS YEAH and also MORE MONEY FOR THESE FUCKOS
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i don't even think obama did a good job, btu at least they had the sense to use the auto bailouts in their campaign
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Al! posted:lf saw thru that hope and change bs from teh beginning lol nah, iirc they weren't suckered nearly as hard as d&d was but they still bought what Obama was selling, at least for the first year or two Zhulik posted:Also, kind of hosed up that the overall primary turnout dropped by 45% between 2008 and 2016. What happened there? 2008 was a big outlier it's not really a good basis for comparison
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Corbyn had more overwhelming institutional forces working against him, yet didn't have the same problem
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Shear Modulus posted:that contrasted with romney having said "let detroit go bankrupt" were absolutely the only thing that really mattered that was such a hosed up thing to say you'd think a dem said it
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ThndrShk2k posted:Are we finally getting to the point where we have disingenuous salt throws again? 
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UHD posted:that was such a hosed up thing to say you'd think a dem said it put coal miners out of work
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hope, change, and the installation of a worldwide caliphate
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 that's not what he ran on hope that helps.
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Vox Nihili posted:heres a very early obama stump speech if you want to hear what he actually says (for 2008) daamn watch this poo poo, haha what happened to you obama
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He didn't run on these issues He ran on ending the war in Iraq and fixing healthcare (Both things he did the exact opposite of what he should have done)
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Karl Barks posted:daamn watch this poo poo, haha what happened to you obama power is a hell of a drug
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:seriously: obama's main campaign theme was healing the divisions of Bush's incompetency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_%22Hope%22_poster 
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ThndrShk2k posted:Are we finally getting to the point where we have disingenuous salt throws again? i'd love for the solution to be as easy as "run as leftist, win", but I'm doubtful that that's the case
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Al! posted:hope, change, and the installation of a worldwide caliphate barack HUSSEIN obama
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KomradeX posted:My friend who was am independent as well changed registration only to find out she needed to have done that before October 2015 this is exactly what happened to me.
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have to find leftists willing to run first I imagine most people would tell you to pound sand if you asked them to run because that poo poo takes time and money and life doesn't pause just because you're running for rep of bumblefuck illinois
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:i'd love for the solution to be as easy as "run as leftist, win", but I'm doubtful that that's the case The solution is clearly to keep on trying to win with lame boring corporate centrists
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:i'd love for the solution to be as easy as "run as leftist, win", but I'm doubtful that that's the case that is the case
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UHD posted:have to find leftists willing to run first
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therse a lot of stupid fuckin arguments itt but bickering about whether Obama ran on bipartisanship or merely talked about it has to be one of the stupidest
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As I recall, there was a lot of misinformation being (knowingly or otherwise, mostly otherwise I think) promulgated about registration deadlines/requirements for primaries on every side.
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paranoid randroid posted:therse a lot of stupid fuckin arguments itt but bickering about whether Obama ran on bipartisanship or merely talked about it has to be one of the stupidest I don't think you understand how important it is to be correct in the SUK ZONE.
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Would yall mind if I closed this thread and opened a new one with more concurrent information in the OP?
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docbeard posted:I don't think you understand how important it is to be correct in the SUK ZONE. This is why it's very important to post "Bernie would have won" every so often.
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Venom Snake posted:Would yall mind if I closed this thread and opened a new one with more concurrent information in the OP? just edit the OP
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Venom Snake posted:Would yall mind if I closed this thread and opened a new one with more concurrent information in the OP? also rename it the "cuck zone for zuck"
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:i'd love for the solution to be as easy as "run as leftist, win", but I'm doubtful that that's the case It's sweet watching the first 3 minutes of this 2008 Obama speech and have him mention wealth inequality, people not affording college, people unable to retire, and money being wasted on foreign boondoggles, and then immediately tabbing over to read your post about leftist poo poo not winning elections.
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Oh Snapple! posted:just edit the OP That's one option but Iv not enjoyed that new thread smell in a while
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Venom Snake posted:Would yall mind if I closed this thread and opened a new one with more concurrent information in the OP? go ahead, I already have a nice tweet stored up to get the suk started page 1
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just seal the fuckin hatches and pump the toxins in through the ventilation system already; we're all already dead
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name the thread cuck zone or bust
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Venom Snake posted:Would yall mind if I closed this thread and opened a new one with more concurrent information in the OP? what if we just closed it and didn't open a new one
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:The solution is clearly to keep on trying to win with lame boring corporate centrists centrists' value came in their being a vote for a Democratic speaker/majority leader to control what makes it to the floor for a vote, but if they can't even provide that (because they can't win), they're no use whatsoever so you might as well run full communists in a R+20 district, gently caress it Karl Barks posted:that is the case as evidenced by how bernie sanders drove youth turnout during the primary just like corbyn did
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