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anime was right posted:i, a person knee loving deep in politics, could not articulate in three bullet points why hillary clinton wanted to run for president other than Despite the fact that Hillary had a very favorable media presence she never managed to get a sound bite that had any policy proposal on it. Even trump had his talk about building a wall and changing the deals in soundbites. Hillary had nothing, because every time she had an opportunity, she basically said "read my website".
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Hillary got her chance. And you know what, she stepped up to the line and airballed it.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:43
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Vox Nihili posted:it's....... really, really not odd to place the blame for losing on the candidate that lost. You can find some nice hot takes in d&d about how it's not a presidential candidate's job to convince you to vote for them.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:53
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Condiv posted:hmm i wonder why hillary lost This was one of her big problems. Even if she actually cared about the platform, she would never actually answer a question lest she get sound bit. I'm like, dude, you need sound bites at this point, so they can say something about you other than e-mails and leaks. We made fun of trump for "i'm gonna build a wall" but at least it told us something about him. Hillary deliberately chose not to allow herself to get sound bites.
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Nov 10, 2016 04:09
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Pathos posted:Here's an outstanding question I have: If you understand that Hillary basically considered this election a coronation for her, that she had no chance of losing, then you can pretty easily understand all her decisions. She also is predisposed against populism in general personally and is chronically incapable of hiding that.
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Nov 10, 2016 12:06
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Baloogan posted:You will not believe me, but when I saw Kaine for the first time I knew then more certain than the dawn that Kaine wasn't going to be VP. We need a trump CMANO scenario, stat.
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Nov 10, 2016 12:11
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Jonny 290 posted:because it was her loving turn. This pretty much explains her decision making.
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Nov 10, 2016 12:41
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docbeard posted:I'm pretty ambivalent toward Hillary these days, but goddamn does Robby Mook need to never be allowed to work anywhere where he is responsible for anything ever again. I think you have to take a lot of that with a grain of salt because most of the people being interviewed are trying to have careers and will be unlikely to attack people they think they will need. I'm about 40% of the way through shattered and it's really hard to believe that everything said about Mook is actually Mook and not a combination of Mook, Podesta, Abedin, etc.
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Apr 19, 2017 11:41
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I don't think you're going to get a particularly insightful analysis of Hillary's campaign from an internal perspective less than 6 months after the election. You will get some juicy tidbits, though.
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Apr 19, 2017 11:56
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docbeard posted:Yeah, probably, but even before this book, I've never heard anything about Mook that has led me to suggest he had any business running a campaign. (Not that there's a wealth of actual good campaign managers on the left. Lord knows Bernie's folks were a bunch of clowns too.) Bernie's campaign manager was a guy who ran a games+comics shop who'd helped Bernie on campaigns before. I don't blame him so much- Bernie was at a huge disadvantage throughout the primary and I think his primary loss was inevitable, even though i think he could win the general.
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docbeard posted:Yeah, and his other guy was an experienced Democratic Party operative (never mind that all his experience was on some of the worst Democratic defeats in recent memory). I highly doubt that. Also even if there were, would you want to get on hillary's poo poo list?(she actually had one)
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