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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Adventure Pigeon posted:

It's a small lesson, but next time avoid shining the light on Lena Dunham, Lady Gaga, and their ilk. I doubt you could find two people that better embody the stereotype of a wealthy coastal liberal that doesn't understand or give a poo poo about anyone outside their bubble.

Get Willie Nelson on the phone.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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I don't think anybody in the real world gives a poo poo about Lena Dunham, or even knows who she is, but people are definitely likely to get angry at the deluge of actual celebrities like Lady Gaga telling them who to vote for from fancy TV stages, dressed in expensive suits and covered in jewelry, especially these days.

Clinton should have gone for some "common folk" celebrities, I wasn't really joking when I said get Willie Nelson on the phone.



VVV
Speak of the devil.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Nonsense posted:

They relied on a lovely vote algorithm, and wouldn't release details until after the election, and it was completely wrong. Mook a mook.

Tay is at it again!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Anime Schoolgirl posted:

that's why all the class-only leftists went for trump!!!!

oh, no, they stayed home or voted for pissass instead

nobody's handwaving it away. if trump didn't go on a racist platform he could have stolen the rust belt dems. loving think.

That's quite possibly the scariest thing about this that I haven't even considered before.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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How do posters on both sides get the same anime red text avatar? Makes less sense than this election, amirite

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless posted:

Sorry! Don't vote for a literal white supremacist and rapist calling for active genocide next time! Your own self centered bullshit reasons for voting don't Trump the fact that Trump ran on the platform he did

Actually they do, if the person voting is struggling to keep afloat himself, nobody is going to starve themselves to help some abstract other person.

As for people who live comfortable lives and still can't find a shred of empathy, well, gently caress them.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Also who came up with the idea that if you criticize the financial system, you are a holocaust denying anti-semite hiding behind dog whistle signals, that wasn't a winning move, let me tell you.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless posted:

Nobody is starving because of Obamacare and gently caress you if you think your retarded "economic anxiety" should come before being able to receive treatment for the actual anxiety disorder I have

Some people can only lead comfortable lives because of the healthcare bill that is now going away because people thought it was a good idea to elect the guy who wants to round mexicans up into internment camps

Don't cry to me because you get to live with the consequences of your lovely vote. gently caress you. You get to wear the same hood and sheet that the rest of the KKK wears for the next four years.

There are no poor, unemployed people between Los Angeles and New York, and because they don't exist, they couldn't have voted for Trump. Therefore only racists and billionaires voted for him.

Also despite your epic meltdown, I didn't vote for Trump, lol.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Also yes, I think for somebody convinced he has to choose between literally feeding a family / paying the rent, or allowing you to keep your insurance, the rational choice for them is to choose their own interest. And those people do exist, despite your delusions telling you otherwise.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless posted:

Please tell me what Trump is going to do for you or for those people

Nothing, and it's Hillary's fault that she made herself look worse than a loving zero, sadlol

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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steinrokkan posted:

Nothing, and it's Hillary's fault that she made herself look worse than a loving zero, sadlol

All I can feel is pity and sadness for the people driven to a border-line animalistic state by their own hosed up circumstances and by the utter disregard and contempt piled on them by both parties.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless posted:

The only thing worse than the people who won't accept Hillary was a lovely candidate are the fucks with buyer's remorse ITT either pretending they didn't vote for Trump (after weeks/months of saying they were going to) or trying to distance themselves from the fact that they voted for a dude who was a huge and open and unabashed racist and white supremacist, openly buoyed and supported by racists and white supremacists.

I don't care what your reasons were; You will never live this down and if other liberals are smart, they will take their lessons from this, learn and act on them, reach out better to the people who voted for Trump, but they will NEVER forgive the people in their immediate personal and social lives for the horrible loving thing they did, because there needs to be consequences, esp. in their peer group, for voting for Trump.

Yeah, if you are any indication, the consequence will be the final death of the Democratic Party of America.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Raskolnikov38 posted:

the whole go to hillaryclinton.com thing is utterly amazing thinking about it for more than 5 seconds now


you're on a goddamn national stage being watched by 80+ million people and you won't list a single policy you're running on and instead tell everyone to go look at your website


WHAT THE gently caress

Check out my website

Go to martinomalley.com

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless posted:

If you are any indication, we'll be in this same place in 2028 completely flabbergasted that we've followed another amazing two-term democrat president with a total turnover to a Republican incompetent

I will try to learn how to hate more people I don't know with Stalin's burning passion, I won't disappoint you.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless, have you for one second considered how you would help their issues, or are you simply content with sacrificing their priorities īn favor of yours, while them doing the same is a crime against humanity? They need to be punished for not giving you what you need, but you don't seem at all concerned about giving them what they need.

And honestly lots of people have way more poo poo on their plate than whether they can get their Zoloft.

steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 17:21 on Nov 10, 2016

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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By and large I assume many Trump supporters are very racist, some are not very racist, and some simply do what anybody would do, and indeed regard the needs of strangers as a lower priority than their needs, which is legitimate for somebody who is in debt ´, unemployed and stuck in the middle of nowhere with four hungry necks to feed. I've already said to gently caress anybody who can't be arsed to take a second to think about others if they have that luxury.

In conclusion,

Zythrst posted:

By showing them that its not the minorities loving them over, which is possible to do because you know its true!



(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless posted:

There was an alternative

Hillary.com wasn't on the ballots, the last time I checked.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless posted:

Cool, yes, this is a thing we should do, but it does not turn back time and change the fact that Donald Trump is a racist and white supremacist who ran on a genocide platform and got elected

It also didn't turn back time on the fact that the dead gay Democratic Party gave up on getting any voters. Hard to expect people to vote for an "alternative" that didn't even bother to ask for your vote and left you in the ditch.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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NumberLast posted:

Say it with me folks: Having voted for Trump doesn't make you a bad person.

Having voted against Trump doesn't make you a good person.

Defining people you don't know by their vote is loving stupid.

I will need some peer reviewed research on that

Let me check DnD

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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steinrokkan posted:

I will need some peer reviewed research on that

Let me check DnD

:magical::stonk::stare::catstare::staredog:

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Raskolnikov38 posted:

what the gently caress did they spend money on if not downticket races that needed help? 450 mil on Hamilton tickets?!?!?!?

Lady Gaga and Katy Perry don't work for free.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mirthless posted:

I was always more on the socialist side than the neolib side, I was just too committed to the party to not support Hillary when she was clearly going to be the candidate. I've been a rabid Democrat for as long as I've been in politics. I'm not doing that poo poo anymore.

FWIW I still blame Bernie for losing the primary, he made some of The Dumbest decisions early in the primary, kind of like how Hillary made some of The Dumbest decisions late in the general. The whole year's been a shitshow for Dem campaigning. Both candidates were just groping around in the dark while Trump had a clear strategy he never stopped executing. We all mocked him because it was a bad strategy, without considering we didn't have any strategy at all.

I wouldn't say blame him, but given how he was the candidate who started his campaign by standing basically alone on a lawn, he probably should have started way earlier than he did. Though maybe then he would have just been forgotten?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Lawman 0 posted:

*runs the most data driven, organized, lockstep campaign in history*

*gets dunked on and loses to the political equivalent of the Washington Generals*

nothing to see here folks

It's like when the Williams sisters said they would challenge and defeat any male tennis player, then got owned by a heavy smoking middle aged German who drank beers between sets and didn't practice. Like some Monty Python sketch.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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VirtualStranger posted:

https://twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/796280444849307648

Can I just say it's been amazing to see all of the radicalization on the left that's been going on in the last few days?

If Corbyn is any indication, you can look forward to a years long media massage explaining to you why why you are an idiot peasant infected with wrongthink for abandoning the winning Clinton strategy.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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goatse.cx posted:

I think it's greatly overblown.

The importance of identity politics in the positive sense is definitely overblown, but I think what people mean by it more often than not is the deflection of any criticism and dissent as racism and woman-hating, because liberals are obviously and objectively right on all issues, so there's no way anybody could have a reason to vote against them aside from trying to keep black people down.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Why not talk to your Starbucks barista about the importance of the Wall for Americans such as yourself #StandTogether #StarbucksMakesDifference

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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FuriousxGeorge posted:

Well, can you imagine a future where a party might nominate someone party loyalists love but independents hate, costing them the general? That would be a huge mistake. Better to nominate someone independents are also willing to get behind, which is why a fairly run primary that gives them a voice is a strength.

But Republicans could infiltrate the primaries and nominate somebody worse than HillaHAHAHA

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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So, what's the chance the long-term takeaway for Democrats will be "We won the popular vote, stay the course!" instead of "We lost, time to fix poo poo." Seems like plenty of people have been flocking towards this talking point of "Actually, Hillary did win", and it would be heartbreaking if they managed to capture the discourse.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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So, what is wrong with Bill, why does he look like he is about to die. I was honestly expecting there to be an announcement of a Bill cancer immediately post-election,

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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WWII, the Liberal Regiment stationed at Stalingrad.

Major Kowalski: "Lay down, we need to surprise the Krauts,"
Corporal Ivanov: "Comrade, we have local superiority, we could call in our howitzers and blast into the enemy rear."
Major Kowalski: "You do not fully appreciate our position, comrade, the more we dilute and demobilize our forces, the more likely we are to convert Wehrmacht soldiers to join our side."
Corporal Ivanoc: "Wow, they are bombarding our positions, should we call for reinforcements?"
Major KowalsI: "No, that would be seen as too threatening by Nazi industrialists who will be tasked with the rebuilding of Stalingrad. We want the Nazi industrialists to win and rebuild our country, but to suppress the individual soldiers at the same time. That is why we are still fighting."
Corporal Ivanov: "What the hell are you talking about"
Major Kowalski: "The right wing allies of our movement are coming in, you can see by the sheen of their stylish uniforms that they are progressive, smart people."
*machine gun sounds*

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Bernie Sanders, the guy who has maintained his message for like 50 years, will totally break today.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Gringostar posted:

has he ever said kill whity?

because if not he should say kill whity

He said kill kitty because a stray cat keeps eating his dog's kibble.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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anime was right posted:

when u think about it hillary clinton really broke the glass ceiling by making angela merkel the most powerful person on earth

Please do not compare the actual genius politician Merkel with the toxic gently caress up that is the Clinton name.

Anyway, Merkel grew up in the impoverished East Germany, was even approached by the Soviet secret service, but in the end chose public service, and didn't even profit from her career by making hilariously overpriced speeches.

Angela is all that Hillary wanted to be, but infinitely more competent and more humane.

steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 01:17 on Nov 17, 2016

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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crabrock posted:

i don't think you understood his point

I do, but I can't miss any opportunity to cheerlead for my girl Angela.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Mr. Jive posted:

Bernie listing Trump policies he agrees with right now

They want to make america great for the first time

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Ace of Baes posted:

Pretty sure an armed populace is a bit tougher to round up and put in camps than an unarmed one.

The purpose of an armed populace is to do he rounding up for the police, hth.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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"Would it end racism?" became weaponized during the primaries as the ultimate tool to discredit any inconvenient argument. There's nothing wrong with asking that, but it shouldn't be used as a disingenuous rhetorical device to shut down your opponent and make them look like a bigot if they don't comply.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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big juicy nectarine posted:

It would, though, keep those said minorities from being exploited to the point of barely scraping by while enduring the bumps of a poorly regulated economy.

The DNC really failed to understand that intersectionality connects with class too this last election.

Of course they realize that, but the DNC would never say anything that could make the banking sector uncomfortable.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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Liberals literally turned to "Greed is good" as a moral maxim to help them pick a candidate.

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



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"I should mock people for being so dumb about fake problems like "economic cloudiness" or "economic anxiety" that only ever marginally affect privileged people" I say as I step over a passed out homeless man on an unlit street in Detroit.

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