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swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Njoku at the U is going to wreck poo poo as a TE in the NFL.

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swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Grittybeard posted:

Kiper's hard to read, I believe he does actually care about his job and lives for this poo poo, even if he's memorably wrong in many cases. On the other hand he's never been afraid (and probably has become less so) to willingly put whatever bullshit sources are willing to feed him into his rankings.

Either way like every mock draft/big board in the world they're useless until the combine, then slightly less useless after, then worth paying attention to like the day before the draft.

Also pretty sure Kiper has to put out super early stuff because its content.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Amy Pole Her posted:

So tell me about linebackers and defensive ends

Draft the dude with one hand. He is destined to be a HoF'er, the subject of a 30 for 30, an Academy Award nominated movie, and State Representative at least.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Naw JPP blew up his own hand in a dumb fireworks accident. The guy from UCF lost his hand at birth and is a feel good story that will replace Rudy as the best college football movie ever.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Chichevache posted:

I looked around online and none of the stories I read reported that. Unfortunately I couldn't find many articles that went into detail about the events. Just a bunch of clickbait with the video.

Yeah, I though it was the reverse where Mixon called the dude she was with a human being.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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I don't get why the video changes things.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Teva posted:

I think Kayaa's mediocre name is made up for by the fact that his mother is Felicia from Friday, which is going to be great to hear whenever he throws an interception.

Pick 6's shouldn't count unless you yell Bye Felicia as you pass him for the TD.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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There is a lot of hubris in NFL scouting/coaching. The scouting may say he is bad, but has good size and a cannon arm, and the coach simply thinks "I can fix him!" when it may not matter where the guy goes. Some coaches are good and can maximize talent, but short of a handful of cases if a guy is failure at one place, there isn't any fixing him.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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mastershakeman posted:

he's too focused on a washed up pornstar

also, Fournette sucked against Florida which is the other legit defense he played against. And Mike Evans looked good vs Bama and now looks good in the pros! So did Zeke! (and cardale woops)

He wasn't supposed to play against Florida due to injury, but he got mad at them and the coaches in a unsurprising move leveraged his future at the chance of winning and let him play.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Ehud posted:

Brad Kaaya declared.

I feel like Kaaya is the most likely to declare in the same way Michael Scott declared bankruptcy. Just standing outside on US 1 shouting "NFL Draft! I declare for the NFL draft!!!"

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Alaois posted:

each sentence in this post is funnier than the last

they are so desperate to put a white dude at the front of the qb class it's staggering

Its also after Wentz and to some extent albeit older, Flacco making people look at smaller programs for guys they can coach up.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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I mean, the suspension itself was dumb because who the gently caress cares what players do with their own poo poo, but I do get the idea of the NFL honoring the NCAA's punishment. Although, there is a huge difference sitting out games in college where there isn't a paycheck and being suspended in the NFL which loses you money. So yeah, I have decided if they want to suspend but with pay I am cool with that.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Chichevache posted:

Frank Clark didn't get caught on camera punching a white girl. Mixon is going to fall a lot farther.

He will drop until they see how good he is at catching out of the backfield and then its "well he got hit first and he said sorry..." as he goes in the first.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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If we are declaring, then I am not on the Watson train.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Watson was very good in that game, but I think he does a lot of things that Manziel did that was worrying (not in that game though). For instance, Manziel would leave a perfectly clean pocket and scramble and end up running or throwing a ball that would have been bettered delivered with planted feet. Watson also kind of abandons his OL prematurely. Dude will have to get used to working in the pocket, and not start scrambling after his 1st or 2nd read.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Peppers is like Devin Hester, played almost every position in college, but won't have a natural position in the NFL.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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tarbrush posted:

Not sure they cut Albert this year. I imagine they'll go for a raw G/C in the third or something, and continue to churn veteran backups

Fins should just hire tons of people to do nothing but hack social media accounts the night of the draft to get prospects to fall to them.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Kirios posted:

Which QB has a chance of dropping to 25 for the Texans? Brad Kaaya?

Hard to tell before the combine because some small school QB puts in a great workout and climbs while thinly coded assessments about "mobile" QB's make them drop. In short, yeah, Kaaya will probably be available there.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Kalli posted:

How does Peppers compare to Tyrann Matthieu as far as skillset goes? He's the last super talented guy I remember who had that label of being a weird talent with no natural position.

Its easier to stick a guy into the secondary and have him switch between safety and corner that it is to make a guy switch between LB and DB. Matthieu is not the best comparison, because he was never playing near the line, unless on a blitz. Peppers will be expected to play the pass and run, as well as rush the passer.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Ehud posted:

https://twitter.com/jasonlieser/status/824098797651378176


Armando says Miami is high on Anzalone. I hope we draft every Gator LB.

I will never not read his name as anything but Analzone.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Who was the last white running back drafted in the first round?

Tommy Vardell by Cleveland in 92, went 9th overall. Toby Gerhardt went in the 2nd.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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I understand going BPA, but McShay seems to only do that and ignores how need plays into taking a guy that you might value equally as good but plays a different position.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Hey guys, I was thinking about how we try to do a mock draft every year and how we usually only get through two or three rounds and that takes almost the whole off season. I have a team based idea in mind. Basically instead of each person picking one team and drafting for them, everyone picks between 2 and 4 teams that they follow. No picking a rival just to take a punter in the first, at least take this a little serious or else it won't be interesting or fun. So for instance, I would take the Steelers, the Dolphins, and Jags. My man Ehud, living in the Carolinas and loving all things Henne takes the Dolphins, Panthers, and Jags. Febreeze takes the Giants and Seahawks. Basically, you pick a team that you root for and a team or two or three that you follow either because of geography or you have to draw them every drat week. Each "team" chats about overall strat, develops a big board, whatever. If the pick is up and you get to the computer, you make it and we move on. Instead of waiting 24-48 hours for a single guy to make a pick, you have hopefully 3 or 4 people all on the same plane of thinking who has the power to make the pick. Sound good?

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Ehud posted:

Bell is way bigger than Cook but tested better than Cook in everything but the 40.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/le'veon-bell?id=2540175

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/dalvin-cook?id=2557991

Look at the difference in the cone and shuttle :stare:

Yeah, but does the combine test patience and vision? :smug:

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Adun posted:

I think it's the opposite of "outlaw bloodlines"

If he had made that comparison to Mixon or someone with a record, it might make sense.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Ches Neckbeard posted:

The NCAA could just put a rule in place that screws college players. Just put in a clause that if you're on scholarship you're required to play all games you're able. It's not like they have any problem exploiting them as is.

Thats a good way to make the incidence of migraines skyrocket among college football players.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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pasaluki posted:

I would hope past a certain point someone would create a farm system for the NFL geared towards recruiting the best H.S. players. They could have fewer games and fewer teams of higher talent. Oh yeah and the kids would actually be paid too so they would join it. Then the NCAA and the schools could gently caress off with this forced fealty and exploiting the poo poo out of these kids.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tom-bradys-agent-launches-new-pro-football-league-for-college-age-players/

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Haha, Cian Fahey on Lebatard today said the Dolphins should draft any position other than DL in the first.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Ehud posted:

Yeah, I didn't really agree with that. Wake is a rotational guy pass rush guy for the next two years and then he's done. We need a new starting DE.

While I agree with you, the Dolphins should just go BPA on defense. They LB and secondary need talent too. You can kick the can down the line another year on DL, but they really need LB/DB.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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warcrimes posted:

He broke the NCAA record for all purpose yards two years ago. He's a multi-purpose threat that isn't 5'9". It's a legit debate.

I think its less a knock on McCaffery and more injury concerns about Fournette and his play style.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Ches Neckbeard posted:

Good thing I planned to be drunk for the draft anyway.

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/855459059226595334

If I am the 49ers or Bears, I would be paying homeless men to just shout Mitch at every person that walks out of the Browns building.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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mastershakeman posted:

Rodgers ? favre? young?

What do they have in common that is different than what noted and obviously unfairly treated running QB Cam Newton has?

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Once a player declares for the draft and signs with an agent, they are usually fronted money to train and such. Its not like the guy doesn't have access to a decent amount of money.

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swickles
Aug 21, 2006

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Jake Butt signed an endorsement deal with Charmin.

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