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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Would like to request that the Southern Poverty Law Center be added to the OP. It's another social/economic justice organization that specializes in litigations. Most of their work includes mapping hate crimes and seeking justice for the victims of it, though they have gone after hate groups and people of authority through the courts. Not specifically a leftist organization, but one that'll definitely need a lot more help during a Trump administration.

https://www.splcenter.org/

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

HorseRenoir posted:

Corbyn is like Jimmy Carter in that he's a good person but an extremely lovely politician. Obviously leadership isn't easy when most of your party organization hates you, but he's been pretty passive and spineless in the face of Brexit. He is definitely not the Sanders-esque firebrand that people were expecting him to be.

My understanding with Corbyn and Brexit was that (from his perspective) he was defending a bad organization against a worse decision. This is coming from me only catching small blinks of news from the UK, so clarification about this would be great.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

b0ner of doom posted:

Violence is never ok, and i think people that want to do violence or otherwise practice those types of owns on their political opponents should try being happier in life and finding fun and constructive things to do instead

Adorable, what are your views on international relations?

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

b0ner of doom posted:

I'm just a happy person that wishes for other to be happy too, and value themselves instead of owning themselves via anger.

I'm not the one who owned themselves.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
:siren:THIS poo poo NEEDS TO BE FOUGHT!:siren:

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Ruzihm posted:

That's hosed up. It looks like a state politician though. Is there any practical way a person from the other side of the us can help?

Right now, just be vigilant about similar laws in your area or even at the federal level (god knows it could happen). Otherwise, just keep an ear open to updates.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/Slate/status/800223240299937792

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

blue squares posted:

Corporations ended abuses of LGBT in Indiana and North Carolina lol

Edit:
Scratch that, missed North Carolina dropping bathroom law. I'm still not impressed.

MizPiz fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Nov 21, 2016

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Lightning Knight posted:

So this post is cool and good and I'm glad you guys are succeeding across the pond, but I gotta ask, will the kids still get their free toys? :smith:

It's not a charity thing.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Veyrall posted:

Just found my local county democrats. They've been stunned into submission by Hillary's loss.

I've got a lot of work to do.

Use the opportunity to takeover the branch. Push them further to the left than they already are. Start the revolution, comrade. :getin:

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

ekuNNN posted:

First off I want to agree with some earlier posts:


Anway, I'm involved with the International anti-fascist defence fund. We raise money to support antifascists around the world with things like legal fees, hospital bills, fines, et cetera that they incur because of their involvement in antifascist activity.
We've just released our quarterly report today:


So, if you can't or don't want to join up with your local antifa, you can also support international antifascist action by donating some money every month or just once. Every little bit helps. :sun:

There any links or contact info for if you want to form an antifa branch? I'm pretty sure there's a group where I live, but from I can tell there doesn't seem to be many in the US.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

ekuNNN posted:

Any specific area? There are lots of antifa groups throughout the US, I can take a look for you if you want.
We've gotten a lot of questions like yours recently, here's a post we made about how to get in contact or start your own branch: http://antifainternational.tumblr.com/post/138607486119/looking-to-join-your-local-antifa

I'm in NYC, which I'm pretty sure has a branch but I don't know if it's still active. Question was really more for people who know they didn't have one in there area.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Highly reccomend listening to the latest episode of Chapo Trap House. They talk about his latest documentary, Hypernormalization, and both it and the interview have very poignant critics of modern leftism.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Oracle posted:

Honestly? No. You are ice skating uphill by joining a fringe party and trying to influence one of the two main parties from the outside. You need to take over the already-existing party from the inside. Why? Because the party has absolutely no reason to listen to you. You have no money, you have little influence, and some of your ideals are opposed to several within the party (whether they're stated or not). Even Bernie Sanders lifelong Independent Socialist from Vermont didn't run as a Socialist. He ran as a Democrat. Why? Ballot access. Dems have access everywhere and its easy to get on the ballot. They have chapters everywhere. They are a known quantity throughout the country. All things you need if you want to reach as many people as possible. Noone has to explain what a Democrat is. You will be explaining your party to just about everyone you meet. That is a lot of lost opportunity when you could just hit the ground running. I'm sure there will be others who will argue the opposite, but divide and conquer isn't just a saying. The fractious Left has been shooting itself in the foot since the sixties. We need to get our poo poo together and get on the same page.

Counterpoint: Saying your joining the DSA (and actually following through) elicits this sort of response.

Contrary to what Oracle says, failings of the left over the past sixty years has nothing to do with infighting and everything to do with the radicals copitualting to moderates and retreating from politics in a participatory manner. The best means to gain the power lost from this is by organizing independently from the Dems and be a force that either must be appeased or be a threat to them during election years. The party from the local to national level is heavily entrenched who have a vested interest in both retaining power and keeping the party in a firm center. Fighting them from the inside forces you to do so on their terms, doing so from the outside gives you more of chance to choose your fights and how they are fought. You should stay a registered Dem (and for now vote for them) for basically the reasons Oracle said, but you should work on building up the DSA first and try to build relationships with sympathetic Dem officials to make the DSA their base. Besides, since you live in Texas it might actually be easier convincing people to support a brand new party than it is to support the Dems.

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

cheese posted:

As MizPiz correctly points out, the big flaw that progressives in the US have had is that there is no other organization for them outside of the Democratic Party. There is nothing wrong with the DSA from that point of view, and if its membership and name recognition can grow to a point where it can exert influence on the Democratic Party, then it absolutely has huge value. If it starts trying to run candidates on a level and in a way that undermines national politics, then we have a problem. It needs to be a progressive Tea Party, not a Libertarian party.

If I'm going to be upfront, I do think the DSA should work towards being able to run their own candidates. The reason the Tea Party worked was because they were working in the interest of conservative elites like the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson. No matter what reason individuals decided to join or support the Tea Party, what they fought for benefitted the people who were alreadu supporting the Republicans. If the DSA wants to be effective, they need to be able to directly fight against entrenched Democrats at the ballot box. I do agree that people should be a part of both parties and that they should be tied together, but the DSA will only have the power to affect the Democrats if they can actually be a threat to them.

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