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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
the perfect amount of resistance. it WILL NOT move by itself or by accident.. but it will not hold and grip creating a sort of stuttered, oppos I moved it too much feel.

my question is how heavy and how much inertia



and when I was young I used to read and day dream about mesa boogie guiatar amps./.. word is that you shape the sopund and the bass/treb/etc knobs arent independent and tjey all affect each other and so subtle changes in one affect otehrs but I imagine those knobs have to at least have good knbo feel


ALSO i want a mouse with a free wheeling scrool wheel made of something like depleted uranium or platinum/iridium and on super amazing bearings so you can spin it and it just spins for decaeds

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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RApm5cUMj3E

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
I'm feeling my knob right now

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


The Management posted:

I'm feeling my knob right now

Nice

Satellit3
Oct 21, 2008

nice

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

i don't want to touch echi's knob

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Captain Foo posted:

i don't want to touch echi's knob

Echi's Knob Cysts

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Captain Foo posted:

i don't want to touch echi's knob

some people find pleasure in deepthroating it

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

mishaq posted:

some people find pleasure in deepthroating it

weird

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
echo penis, is sex like a computer?

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

mishaq posted:

some people find pleasure in deepthroating it

only those who are self aware

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

i like knobs with a bit of resistance to them

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

mishaq posted:

some people find pleasure in deepthroating it

lawyers, for instance

Bored Online
May 25, 2009

We don't need Rome telling us what to do.

akadajet posted:

i like knobs with a bit of resistance to them

danger close to dial territory

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I have a knob.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
Proper knobfeel is not created by resistance, but by inertia. The knob must be as heavy as possible.

Dolomite
Jul 26, 2000
Cars & Legs

whole bunch of knobs itt

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I love the feel of a knob wiping over tight windings

Bored Online
May 25, 2009

We don't need Rome telling us what to do.
ill take the incremental click of a dial instead. dial crew repesent

pram
Jun 10, 2001
in before graph gasses tt

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

a knob with a little planetary gearbox inside that spins up a flywheel when you turn it for maximal inertia

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
ban felnob

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

imagine a knob where the outside surface is like a trackpad and doesn't actually rotate. you have to pinch it but slide your fingers at the same time. that would freaking suck.

skimothy milkerson
Nov 19, 2006


and i thought i was the only one

maniacdevnull
Apr 18, 2007

FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
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YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

Glorgnole posted:

imagine a knob where the outside surface is like a trackpad and doesn't actually rotate. you have to pinch it but slide your fingers at the same time. that would freaking suck.

Apple Magic Knob. A fixed cylinder with touch sensors but it doesn't actually rotate. Magical and revolutionary. $299.95.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Dongslayer. posted:

ill take the incremental click of a dial instead. dial crew repesent

depends on the resistance per click

atomicthumbs posted:

Proper knobfeel is not created by resistance, but by inertia. The knob must be as heavy as possible.

the greater the inertia the less resistance is needed. hence large platinum iridium knobs with glorious knurlijf is what i desire

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
the best knob has a planetary reduction drive and a turns counter

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

maniacdevnull posted:

Apple Magic Knob. A fixed cylinder with touch sensors but it doesn't actually rotate. Magical and revolutionary. $299.95.

yikes!

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

atomicthumbs posted:

the best knob has a planetary reduction drive and a turns counter

ung so a knob that is graduated but behind many layers of drive reduction


omg

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
the diameter of a knob is not to be dismissed either


so right now imagine a knob... approx 5cm/2" diameter... 2/4" thick. knurled.. a VERY heavy metal. what is the finish on the front? a pattern? some kind of ancient homosexual rune? perfectly matte finish is what I want in this. machine marks would be acceptable if done tastefully

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

echinopsis posted:

the diameter of a knob is not to be dismissed either


so right now imagine a knob... approx 5cm/2" diameter... 2/4" thick. knurled.. a VERY heavy metal. what is the finish on the front? a pattern? some kind of ancient homosexual rune? perfectly matte finish is what I want in this. machine marks would be acceptable if done tastefully

eh, that knob seems too short. I'd go 0.75" or even a full inch. and obviously it has to be fluid-damped.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
um


what?????

fluid damping IMO introduces an unpredictable element





???

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
should aknob be able to be turned with the fingers alone or does the wrist need to get involved due to it's deeply substantial inertia

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

echinopsis posted:

um


what?????

fluid damping IMO introduces an unpredictable element





???

not at all. fluid damped tripod heads are used to enable smooth pans for cameras. it is a far more reliable resistance than a purely solid-state system

ideally, you have a combination of both fluid-damped and inertial, enabling both precision and free-spinning. maybe if you pull the knob out until it clicks, you can spin it rapidly.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
i'm wet

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
The reduction drive is integrated with the fluid damper and pulling it out switches the clutch to the other position.

I need to find the pictures I have of my government radio whose tuner has a rolled scrolling paper ribbon for frequency readout and which has a zero-backlash geartrain for precision calibration with a friction clutch to make sure you don't break the ribbon

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
ill take a little video of the gear reduction and turns counter on this old antenna tuner tomorrow i think this thread will like it

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
https://www.surplussales.com/index/Shaft-Hardware.html

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
what about a rotary encoder strapped to a stepper with a shitload of shaping so that it provides adjustable, software controllable even drag/resistance or software detents. force feedback i guess

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bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
is knob feel teh same as mouth feel, or is that just the way I do it

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