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whypick1 posted:How much of the Colts D being lackluster was due to Bob Sanders missing his required 10 weeks out of the season and coming back just in time for the playoffs? That defense was basically built on the offense getting the lead and then letting Freeney and Mathis loose to rush. They could be run on, but normally teams would be down and couldn't stick with the run because they couldn't keep up with scoring. Bob Sanders by himself basically turned that around where he could get in the box and destroy the other team's running game. He was also pretty good at coverage and always seemed to be around the ball making plays. The offense sputtered in the first couple of playoff games and Sanders was pretty much the whole reason the defense carried the Colts through their Wild Card and Divisional games.
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If you remove all of the NFC East opponents from the teams that have played the Cowboys, those teams are 32-40. Not the greatest but you have the Browns who are 0-8 and the 49ers who are 1-8 against non-NFC East opponents included in there. FYI. The NFC East is 5-2, 4-2-1, 5-2 and 7-0 versus non-division opponents. The two other teams that have winning records outside of playing the NFC East are the Ravens (5-2) and Steelers (4-3). Then you have the Bengals (3-4) and Packers (3-4) close to 500 when not playing the NFC-E. The Bears, Browns, and 49ers really drag down the number of wins because they are all terrible.
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https://twitter.com/AdamHBeasley/status/801149773122248704 lol
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fishing with the fam posted:Yup. Torn labrum for Cutler. Everyone ready for Starting NFL Quarterback Matt loving Barkley? I know I am. They re-signed David Fales from the Ravens' practice squad
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quote:If you remove all of the NFC East opponents from the teams that have played the Cowboys, those teams are 32-40. Not the greatest but you have the Browns who are 0-8 and the 49ers who are 1-8 against non-NFC East opponents included in there. also the 49ers only play one NFC East team whereas the Bears/Browns get 4 games so the 1-8 from them skews things a bit unevenly in terms of who the nfc east as a whole got Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:2011 Giants had a pretty bad one I think. Saints couldn't have had a great one that year, either. Yes, the 2011 Giants had the 27th ranked defense in yards per game and were also dead last in rushing yards per game and rushing yards per attempt on offense and only made the playoffs exclusively because their quarterback and 2 receivers carried the rest of the team kicking and screaming to a 9-7 record "Eli Manning can't win without a team carrying him" - dumb fuccbois
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Fuckboys. Noice.
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Nice short read comparing Winston and Mariota so far: http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/126601/tale-of-the-tape-jameis-winston-vs-marcus-mariota
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Lote posted:If you remove all of the NFC East opponents from the teams that have played the Cowboys, those teams are 32-40. Not the greatest but you have the Browns who are 0-8 and the 49ers who are 1-8 against non-NFC East opponents included in there. The Lions would only be 4-4 if they hadn't played the NFC East.
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Also, a new thing the Cowboys are doing that is very different from past years is that they are winning by much larger margins and blowing out teams. It seems like in previous years, most games were nail biters where the Cowboys had to pull poo poo out of their rear end to win. The only close games this year have been the vs. Giants, @ Redskins, @ 49ers, vs. Eagles, and @ Steelers. The 5 other games have been 2+ score blowouts which never used to happen. I'm only analyzing the teams that the Cowboys have played.
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Nov 22, 2016 21:19
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A lot of these Cowboys wins are like watching something be slowly crushed by an extremely heavy weight. It's not flashy but it kind of owns. 
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Good read. We are so loving doomed. http://deadspin.com/the-chiefs-have-real-problems-1789266197
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wandler20 posted:Nice short read comparing Winston and Mariota so far: http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/126601/tale-of-the-tape-jameis-winston-vs-marcus-mariota Lol at Winston having a similar deep ball accuracy as Mariota
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Nov 22, 2016 22:18
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Where do you see the line graph of a team's chances to win as the game goes on? I want to see what the change was when O'Brien punted with 3 minutes left
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Intruder posted:Where do you see the line graph of a team's chances to win as the game goes on? I want to see what the change was when O'Brien punted with 3 minutes left Isn't that on ESPN's site? Like under summary?
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Punting, on 4th and 6, at your opponents 40 yd line, when you have 1 timeout, 3 min on the clock, and down 7...... It's insanity
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Nov 22, 2016 22:51
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No they were on their own 40, but still e: Ok so I guess it didn't actually change the odds all that much
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Intruder posted:Where do you see the line graph of a team's chances to win as the game goes on? I want to see what the change was when O'Brien punted with 3 minutes left http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201611210rai.htm not much 
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Nov 22, 2016 22:59
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In a random NFL game vacuum there's not a huge difference but in this game it made little sense the way the raiders were moving the ball
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I think those graphs are inaccurate, based on the number of times we see where a team has a <1% chance of winning come back and win.
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Yeah, 4th and 5 down 7 on your side of the field with 3 minutes left means your odds of winning are really low as is, but punting probably is that change from 92% chance of losing to 97%
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Gynecolojustice posted:I think those graphs are inaccurate, based on the number of times we see where a team has a <1% chance of winning come back and win. A vast majority of the time people look up and post these graphs are in the case of teams making improbable comebacks. How often do you see a graph posted of the Patriots beating the Dolphins by 24 in a game that was never in question? Never. Because nobody cares to look.
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Jonathan Fisk posted:In a random NFL game vacuum there's not a huge difference but in this game it made little sense the way the raiders were moving the ball i don't think you should ever punt it there because the probability of making it is better than that of any team going 3 and out and punting it, and even then you are basically back where you started with less time on the clock and one fewer timeout
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fishing with the fam posted:A vast majority of the time people look up and post these graphs are in the case of teams making improbable comebacks. How often do you see a graph posted of the Patriots beating the Dolphins by 24 in a game that was never in question? Never. Because nobody cares to look. Sometimes people try to find the games where a team flatlined the fastest, like that Pats - Titans game: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200910180nwe.htm
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hifi posted:i don't think you should ever punt it there because the probability of making it is better than that of any team going 3 and out and punting it, and even then you are basically back where you started with less time on the clock and one fewer timeout Basically I'd only punt in that situation if I was the 2000 ravens or another team where I was certain that my defense was more likely to cause a turnover then my quarterback pick up a first down.
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I wonder what that blip two thirds of the way through the fourth quarter is? At that point it doesn't seem like anything should effect that outcome. Edit: That is probably my all time favorite box score.
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fishing with the fam posted:I wonder what that blip two thirds of the way through the fourth quarter is? At that point it doesn't seem like anything should effect that outcome. Brian Hoyer left tackle for 4 yards (tackle by Stephen Tulloch) is the play right at that time. It's a drive the Patriots Punted.
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fishing with the fam posted:I wonder what that blip two thirds of the way through the fourth quarter is? At that point it doesn't seem like anything should effect that outcome. brian hoyer ran for 4 yards on 2nd and 10 which turned the 1.71 expected points into 1.55 expected points. my guess is the algorithm noticed on that play the titans were probably getting the ball back with "enough" time to come back and then by the time they actually got the ball back there wasn't enough time.
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I'd guess rounding error. Heck, they had negative passing yards at that point in the game. That could've hosed up something in the formula.
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The first thing I saw when I turned the game on yesterday was Brock throwing directly into a Raiders' hands, the ball flying back, and Brock catching it for a 5 yard loss. I turned the game off.
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Kalli posted:I'd guess rounding error. That game was my favorite Vince Young thing other than when he was on the Eagles, Vick got concussed and left the game, VY came in and immediately threw a pick so they told Vick no you don't have a concussion and sent him back in e: If I'm remembering that right anyway a neat cape posted:The first thing I saw when I turned the game on yesterday was Brock throwing directly into a Raiders' hands, the ball flying back, and Brock catching it for a 5 yard loss. After that was a false start After that was a touchdown pass 
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fishing with the fam posted:I wonder what that blip two thirds of the way through the fourth quarter is? At that point it doesn't seem like anything should effect that outcome. Jeff Fisher's comprehensive misery in that game is the best thing. He's freezing his nuts off in the snow while his team eats a historic blowout loss in the most embarrassing way possible. You just KNOW he went into the game thinking he could play a 9-6 shitfest Fisherball game because of the snowstorm, and then the Patriots throw on every down and the numbers just keep going up, up, up! And to top it all off, the Patriots pull Brady and quit trying to score anymore in the 3rd quarter... and then Hoyer scores another touchdown. What I'm saying is gently caress Jeff Fisher. 
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Jeff Fisher's disgusting frozen booger encrusted mustache
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Kalli posted:Sometimes people try to find the games where a team flatlined the fastest, like that Pats - Titans game: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200910180nwe.htm Find that Falcons-bucs game from a few years back when Tampa bay didn't even get off the bus.
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FizFashizzle posted:Find that Falcons-bucs game from a few years back when Tampa bay didn't even get off the bus. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201409180atl.htm
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Nov 22, 2016 23:50
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Seahawks cut JaMarcus Webb, lol
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Even that game has nothing to compete with this gem of a stat line: code:sean10mm fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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sean10mm posted:Even that game has nothing to compete with this gem of a stat line: So he threw three completions. One to an enemy, one for 15 yards, and one for -22 yards. Yep. Just another day at the office.
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Wonder what RB Seahawks are going to sign
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lmao, 90+% chance of winning with 5 mins left in the 1st quarter. I loved that game 
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What the gently caress did I do to the patriot posters to deserve this
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