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Mod we must look each other in the eye, we can no longer put this off, we must speak about bobfather...
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bobfather posted:Don't know how this show got picked up for season 2. The writing is pure rear end. mods please excommunicate this man
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Feb 7, 2017 05:20
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I'm 100% on board with Young Pope's vision for the Church.
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Feb 7, 2017 05:41
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"Halitosis is a deformation of the soul." -- (Young) Pope Pius XII This series is fascinating, thought provoking, visually stunning and somehow manages to be both subtly and cartoonishly funny. Love it. Also, NO, NOT THE KANGAROO. There really is no God, is there?
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Feb 7, 2017 07:57
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Seriously, who's the guy I need to google to find out what other visuals he's done? Art director? Cinematographer?
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Feb 7, 2017 08:32
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Solkanar512 posted:Outside of Il Divo, are there other films of his you recommend? After I watched The Great Beauty I wanted to hop on a plane and fly to Rome right away. Youth is more accessible but still worth a watch.
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Feb 7, 2017 08:43
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Grem posted:Seriously, who's the guy I need to google to find out what other visuals he's done? Art director? Cinematographer? Well, generally speaking it's a combined effort between the cinematographer(s), director(s) and editor(s). In this case, specifically, though, I'm pretty sure most credit goes to the cinematographer, Luca Bigazzi. That's going by what I've found on IMDb, including the credits for something titled The Young Pope: A Tale of Filmmaking that I hope I get to see soon. e: Generally I think art directors oversee things like set design, wardrobe, and other important visual design aspects. They don't necessarily call the shots in those departments, because they have their own heads and such, but they make sure everything fits the production's target aesthetic, sort of like an artistic supervisor. That is, they deserve some credit in the matter, too, but I still think you're probably looking for Bigazzi. e2: Also, Luca Bigazzi has 99 cinematography credits, so have fun! Terra-da-loo! fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Feb 7, 2017 08:44
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General Dog posted:I'm 100% on board with Young Pope's vision for the Church. For me, I think that vision should be read more educationally rather than as something to closely emulate. The suicide of Angelo Sanchez is a deciding factor. I give Voiello credit for identifying Lenny as Angelo's killer, and I give Lenny credit for swallowing that accusation. I see Lenny's overall plan is to incite a spiritual revolution in the church that will settle things like its ambiguity and hypocrisy on homosexuality, but in the real world, there have already been too many young people like Angelo. It's better that the real church learn from Lenny's church rather than any future pope behave as Lenny does.
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Feb 7, 2017 08:53
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We may have lost the greatest supporting cast member in Ep 8 as part of the Hero's Journey, but that just means they can return for the surreal sequences! Big fan of how they handled the main intrigue of Ep 8---show is so good about taking shots across the bow.
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Feb 7, 2017 15:29
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I'm not going to lie, I would totally watch a soccer game with Voiello. Cacator posted:After I watched The Great Beauty I wanted to hop on a plane and fly to Rome right away. Thanks for the heads up!
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Feb 7, 2017 15:40
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This show goes over my head sometimes, and some of the scheming/machinations will probably make more sense to me on a rewatch once all the episodes are out. I started out the first few episodes thinking Lenny was going to be some kind of Liberal Pope and shake up things with the old timers, but now I feel like I'm constantly a few steps behind with character motivations. I think the show is visually stunning. I love the sets, the cinematography and Lenny's outfits (I like all the costumes, but it might be related to lighting/setpiece contrast since you can't really jazz up Cardinal or nun outfits). Voiello's soccer-watching gear was amazing. A question about the opening. At the end that meteor knocks over a statue of John Paul II. Anybody know if there's some sort of symbolism to that statue being taken out, or is it just more 'this ain't your puppy's pope!'
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Feb 7, 2017 18:00
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Meteors, falling stars, are often used symbolically to represent "the fallen one."
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Feb 7, 2017 18:14
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LadyPictureShow posted:This show goes over my head sometimes, and some of the scheming/machinations will probably make more sense to me on a rewatch once all the episodes are out. I started out the first few episodes thinking Lenny was going to be some kind of Liberal Pope and shake up things with the old timers, but now I feel like I'm constantly a few steps behind with character motivations. It's an actual piece of art called "La Nona Ora" but I don't understand that sort of art to say anything more meaningful.
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Feb 7, 2017 18:15
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LadyPictureShow posted:This show goes over my head sometimes, and some of the scheming/machinations will probably make more sense to me on a rewatch once all the episodes are out. I started out the first few episodes thinking Lenny was going to be some kind of Liberal Pope and shake up things with the old timers, but now I feel like I'm constantly a few steps behind with character motivations. It's a sculpture by Maurizio Cattelan. Apparently, the idea of a very liberal Pope was what Sorrentino started with when he decided to make a show about a young Pope, but the abdication by Benedict and the election of the very liberal Pope Francis lead him in a different direction. https://www.perrotin.com/artists/Maurizio_Cattelan/2/la-nona-ora/15420
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Feb 7, 2017 18:16
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General Dog posted:I'm 100% on board with Young Pope's vision for the Church. I liked when he was giving a speech on the balcony and there are like 5 people there listening to him.
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Feb 7, 2017 20:02
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Lenny was like "Yo God, strike that evil nun down for me, bruh", and then it happened. Or did it?
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Feb 8, 2017 01:12
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Gonz posted:Lenny was like "Yo God, strike that evil nun down for me, bruh", and then it happened. That was my read. That or poison is back in vogue in Roma...
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Feb 8, 2017 02:28
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Gonz posted:Lenny was like "Yo God, strike that evil nun down for me, bruh", and then it happened. Combined with Esther's miraculous pregnancy and Lenny's story about the conclave, God definitely seems to listen whenever Lenny speaks Which is extremely interesting to consider, seeing as Lenny isn't even certain that God exists at all LadyPictureShow posted:A question about the opening. At the end that meteor knocks over a statue of John Paul II. Anybody know if there's some sort of symbolism to that statue being taken out, or is it just more 'this ain't your puppy's pope!' That shot was noticeably absent from the opening of Episode 5, in case it matters to anyone's analysis
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Feb 8, 2017 07:59
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Yea, they didn't set up that death to be poisoning at all. There was nothing that suggested anyone would even try it or had access. Lenny using God as a hitman seems pretty cool and I'm on board, cause I was just praying the other day God would kill someone for me.
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Feb 8, 2017 16:19
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Grem posted:Yea, they didn't set up that death to be poisoning at all. There was nothing that suggested anyone would even try it or had access. Lenny using God as a hitman seems pretty cool and I'm on board, cause I was just praying the other day God would kill someone for me.  Her bff certainly didn't seem to care when she was choking to death after drinking some of her sweet, sweet secret stash of Fillico...
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Feb 8, 2017 16:32
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Jude Law better get an award for all those winks. The BASTARD protestors killed the Kangaroo, right?
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Feb 8, 2017 18:18
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Do you need to be a supermodel to join femen or is thst just the Rome branch
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Feb 8, 2017 20:13
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I really want someone to take a stab at explaining what the Kangaroo was about because that is what loving baffles me the most out of everything.
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Feb 8, 2017 21:24
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It was about the absurdity of having a kangaroo hopping around the Vatican?
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Feb 8, 2017 21:46
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Lenny sees the Kangaroo as being very much like himself. First he was locked up but now's he been set free. But he's completely out of his element in a strange place. Lenny has this illusion of control but it's clear as he tightens his grip and hides in the Vatican he's actually just locking himself up in a place he doesn't quite belong and it's damaging the Church. Lenny finds the Kangaroo dead and then speaks to a crowd of tens of people in St. Peter's Square. There's even very little press coverage now of him. He realizes like the Kangaroo if he stays locked up here in the Vatican it's actually doing irreparable damage so he starts to soften his stance a bit and decide to go to Africa where he plans on making his first public appearance. Instead he ends up making a stand against war and in the process gives a beautiful speech which is the first step on redeeming his Papacy.
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Feb 9, 2017 00:18
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bobfather posted:Don't know how this show got picked up for season 2. The writing is pure rear end.
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Feb 9, 2017 02:58
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First it was nuns playing soccer, now nuns with guns. God I love this show (first prayer I've said in years probably) Anyone notice the set where the kid (Juana Fernandez?) was wandering through was the same little Mexican town that was in Westworld?
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Feb 9, 2017 05:57
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Butt Reactor posted:First it was nuns playing soccer, now nuns with guns. God I love this show (first prayer I've said in years probably) Was it? They film everything out there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Sky_Ranch In addition to Westworld: Carnavale, Rawhide, and Little House on the Prairie were also filmed out there! 
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Feb 9, 2017 07:02
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Butt Reactor posted:First it was nuns playing soccer, now nuns with guns. God I love this show (first prayer I've said in years probably) I did notice that. In one of the shots, you can even see Las Mudas Cantina written on the front of one of the buildings. Not surprising since they take place in the same universe.
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Feb 9, 2017 08:30
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X-O posted:Lenny sees the Kangaroo as being very much like himself. First he was locked up but now's he been set free. But he's completely out of his element in a strange place. Lenny has this illusion of control but it's clear as he tightens his grip and hides in the Vatican he's actually just locking himself up in a place he doesn't quite belong and it's damaging the Church. Lenny finds the Kangaroo dead and then speaks to a crowd of tens of people in St. Peter's Square. There's even very little press coverage now of him. He realizes like the Kangaroo if he stays locked up here in the Vatican it's actually doing irreparable damage so he starts to soften his stance a bit and decide to go to Africa where he plans on making his first public appearance. Instead he ends up making a stand against war and in the process gives a beautiful speech which is the first step on redeeming his Papacy. Wait they killed the Kangaroo? What the gently caress.
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Feb 9, 2017 09:10
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Wait they killed the Kangaroo? What the gently caress. Right before the end, Lenny finds it shot in the garden upon returning from Africa. Still cannot believe no one has been excuinicated yet...
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Feb 9, 2017 22:57
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Right before the end, Lenny finds it shot in the garden upon returning from Africa. It was actually before he even decided to go to Africa. Unless they re-edited the series for the American airing which would be weird. As I said above I'm pretty sure it was one of the deciding factors of him going to Africa. It was a combination of that, the dwindling masses in St. Peter's Square, and his talk with Spencer about his belief in God.
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Feb 9, 2017 23:36
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It makes a lot of sense for Lenny's character to find belief in god by wishing death upon his enemies. Also the Red Outfit in Africa was fuckin fab
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Feb 12, 2017 20:08
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So God has basically been doing favors for Lenny since Lenny's childhood. He's basically hovering over Lenny saying "NOTICE ME SENPAI!!"
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Feb 13, 2017 04:01
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Grem posted:So God has basically been doing favors for Lenny since Lenny's childhood. He's basically hovering over Lenny saying "NOTICE ME SENPAI!!" I think part of it is that God will do seemingly anything for him, except give him the one thing in the world he's always wanted. That's why he doubts. I think I could watch this show a dozen times and still not understand it. But it's just so well shot and scored that I love it, even when I don't understand what's going on.
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Feb 13, 2017 06:05
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Is it done airing on US hbo? Can we spoiler chat now?
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Feb 13, 2017 06:18
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One more episode I think? This show is fantastic.
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Feb 13, 2017 07:08
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drunken officeparty posted:Is it done airing on US hbo? Can we spoiler chat now? finale tomorrow.
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Feb 13, 2017 07:35
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The people who design/build the sets for this show need several awards and some pay raises. Also, I want that giant glowing plexiglass globe.
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Feb 13, 2017 12:23
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Wow Roseanne did a great job last episode
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Feb 13, 2017 21:40
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