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I'm fascinated either way. Option A: Merc goes for an equally good driver and... poaches someone else off a contract? Lewis hates them and complains constantly. Option B: Merc goes for an explicit 1-2 arrangement and opens the field a little more. Races get more interesting. What an amazing driver Rosberg is, to have such a strong impact on next season.
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Fluke champion. At leats James Hunt was a loving rockstar and Prost was the HHH of formula 1. Also LOL at you thinking that Mercedes will pick a driver equal or better than Hamilton.
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harperdc posted:Bottas is managed by Toto Wolff. Suzie Wolff is married to Toto Wolff.....
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Dec 2, 2016 15:56
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Wehrlein won a point in a Manor - WDC material right there.
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Tsaedje posted:Anyone who thinks it's going to be anyone except Wehrlein or Ocon is having a laugh. Wehrlein is their golden boy, its going to be him unless his mehness this year has put them off. They won't go for Alonso as he's past his prime Vettel would be seriously expensive and isn't worth what he would cost Max would cost not far off what Vettel would but how the hell would you manage a team with Hamilton and Verstapen in it. Its going to be Wehrlein or one of the other drivers that Toto has links to.
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Whirlybird has looked fast on occasion. He's certainly better than Are Max (not frogboy) and Jolly On Plamer, and better than Ocon, probably I'd rate him above Nasr too. Not a great driver, but hardly your average starting rookie
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Dec 2, 2016 16:00
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Suzie Wolff is married to Toto Wolff..... She's pregnant.
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Dec 2, 2016 16:01
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Nico knew that he lucked his way into a fluke championship, and that Lewis would come back next season motivated to absolutely crush him. Better to retire now than to leave no doubt about his fraudulent ways.
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Dec 2, 2016 16:01
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Oh I can think of a fair few drivers who would drive for almost free to be in that Mercedes. Vettel included. Lewis has traditionally not done well the first year after a big change owing to his not being arsed to do simulator work, a WDC and the price you can demand from sponsors and the like goes though the roof.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Suzie Wolff is married to Toto Wolff..... Not like this
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Dec 2, 2016 16:03
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Ok fine i will drive that Mercedes, jeez.
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Hang on, what about Not-Max? I'd pick him over whiirline and Red Bull must know they don't have a seat in the main team for him for at least 2 years, and while he's under contract they can make him pay them all his wages over £1 million.
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learnincurve posted:Oh I can think of a fair few drivers who would drive for almost free to be in that Mercedes. Vettel included. Lewis has traditionally not done well the first year after a big change owing to his not being arsed to do simulator work, a WDC and the price you can demand from sponsors and the like goes though the roof. Who ended up roflstomping in 2014 after the change to V6T-H?
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Dec 2, 2016 16:06
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That may be more of a reflection on Nico's abilities than Lewis'. 2015 when he had really got to grips with the car he owned him and then in 2016 when they changed the suspension and he would/could not adapt his driving style he didn't do so well.
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Human Grand Prix posted:It must be said that Wehrlein didn't look amazing. Was it COTA where he beached it in a gravel trap and the team were telling him to kill the engine or something and he didn't follow orders? one of the commentators brought it up and mentioned that someone else had said words to the effect of "and that's why no one's sniffing after him" or something like that.
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I think Nikki could still drive the wheels off that Mercedes.
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learnincurve posted:Hang on, what about Not-Max? I'd pick him over whiirline and Red Bull must know they don't have a seat in the main team for him for at least 2 years, and while he's under contract they can make him pay them all his wages over £1 million. Do you mean Sainz? The problem Red Bull have is their Junior program is running a little dry. They can switch out Kvyat for Gasly easy enough, but beyond that... wikipedia suggests "Niko Kari" who definitely doesn't have enough points to qualify for a superlicense under the new system
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DoctorGonzo posted:Also LOL at you thinking that Mercedes will pick a driver equal or better than Hamilton. Obviously not, they can't revive Ayrton Senna to let him race alongside his true successor.
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learnincurve posted:That may be more of a reflection on Nico's abilities than Lewis'. 2015 when he had really got to grips with the car he owned him and then in 2016 when they changed the suspension and he would/could not adapt his driving style he didn't do so well. Rosberg won this title while being beaten by his teammate
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Dec 2, 2016 16:13
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German GP dead. German WDC retires. Rip Germany
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Baron Corbyn posted:Obviously not, they can't revive Ayrton Senna to let him race alongside his true successor. False. If Hamilton was Sennas successor he would have crashed into Rosberg.
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What the hell is anyone expecting Wehrlein to do in a manor to say he's poo poo? Like someone else said, he managed to get points in that shitbox what did you want to see him get a podium in it or something?
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Well for a start he could have beaten Ocon. They were 3-3 in the 6 races they both finished and the last 2 went to Ocon. I actually rate him but the 2nd half of this year has not helped him one bit.
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The refusing to turn the engine off in a free practice thing soured me a bit and he's really struggled to beat teammates that he should've been consistently faster than.
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Norns posted:German GP dead. German WDC retires. Rip Germany They're warming up for Gerxit.
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Dec 2, 2016 16:32
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Wehrlein and Diresta are two highly overrated DTM drivers that shouldn't have been in F1.
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FAROOQ posted:Rosberg won this title while being beaten by his teammate Just checked and Nico had more points. Explain
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1500quidporsche posted:The refusing to turn the engine off in a free practice thing soured me a bit and he's really struggled to beat teammates that he should've been consistently faster than. No way Mercedes could handle a petulant driver or one who isn't as good as his teammate.
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ukle posted:They won't go for Alonso as he's past his prime MOOOOODDDDSSS
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I don't get why everyone thinks Mercedes is going to be charge again when engine development gets freed up (split turbo honda in the works) and Red Bull is going to get better aero.
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1500quidporsche posted:The refusing to turn the engine off in a free practice thing soured me a bit and he's really struggled to beat teammates that he should've been consistently faster than. I've honestly already forgotten what happened this season because it was so loving boring mostly, I vaguely remember the practice thing. I REMEMBER (SORRY CAPS) that harryanto guy beating him at the start but didn't he get better as the season went along? I guess they can't cancel ocons contract with FI either.
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1500quidporsche posted:The refusing to turn the engine off in a free practice thing soured me a bit and he's really struggled to beat teammates that he should've been consistently faster than. On certain occasions he wasn't significantly faster than Haryanto. Perhaps he needs some more experience.
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As someone pointed out, Merc are already at the engine limit and actually had to turn power down because reliability suffered. They can only play the aero game now.
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iospace posted:I don't get why everyone thinks Mercedes is going to be charge again when engine development gets freed up (split turbo honda in the works) and Red Bull is going to get better aero. There's no guarantee of anything but my suspicion is that the Red Bull next year will be severely under development. Mercedes were just sitting on their hands 80% of this year and there was no reason Red Bull should've kept development on this car going to the end of the season. They made the same mistake in 2014 when there wasn't really a limit on wind tunnel testing, now there's a major limit on what you can do and they just kept plugging away at this car.
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Red Bull's main problem they will be faceing in the 2017 Formula One season is that both of their drivers are insanely bad and I want them both to suffer
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The Brackley team's aero department are hardly slouches. Yes they have have had an engine advantage, but Williams, Force India and Manor have that same engine this season and weren't anywhere close.
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iospace posted:I don't get why everyone thinks Mercedes is going to be charge again when engine development gets freed up (split turbo honda in the works) and Red Bull is going to get better aero. So Alonso gets the seat just as they turn to poo poo? Sounds about right.
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Lowe really is Newey's equal if not better at this point. Newey has always felt like a spent force to me, particularly towards the end of the Vettelreich
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This was one hell of announcement to read whilst taking a poo poo and on my phone. If it's going to be an experienced driver it's going to be Alonso. If it's going to be a homegrown German driver which Mercedes will probably want quite a bit it's going to be Wehrlein.
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